we are asking wisconsin's lieutenant governor, mandela barnes later this hour. plus, the reversing of roe, what that means for some other rights in this country. during this pride month, right for the lgbtq+ community are under fire. we are going to hear from jim obergefell, the man who led the legal battle for same sex marriage. i am symone sanders, and i have something to say. two days after supreme court overturned roe v. wade, the nation continues to grapple with the realities of a post roe america. yang, that's not good. at least nine states have already banned abortion. ripping away women's rights to make decisions about their own bodies. even more states are expected to follow. thousands of americans nationwide are still hitting the streets to protest the courts ruling. and the idea that state governments can now force people to give birth. meanwhile, democratic members of congress are sounding the alarm. but, how are they talking about this? well, they are talking about how the decision will affect americans everywhere. take a listen to democratic congre

joining me now is mandela barnes. thank you sir, for being here. want to ask you, you still need to get through the primary. you were the front runner as of right now. what is the big challenge that your campaign is facing right now? >> thank you so much, tiffany, for having me. the campaign is doing incredibly. well one of the biggest challenges is having people on both sides who can write themselves unlimited checks and sums of money. this is one of the biggest problems that we are dealing with is money and politics. that is what we are building in our grassroots operation. we won't lie. it is competing or front runners. i am part of the grassroots movement that we have grown. we have raised over $4 million. the average donation is around 40 bucks. this is part of the momentum and enthusiasm that it will take to send ron johnson packing this november. at the end of the, day i would rather have 1 million $1 donors than one 1 million dollar donor. for folks who want to be one in 1 million, the did change that joins the campaign. >> i like, that one

the front-runner is lieutenant governor mandela barnes, he's got the support of a lot of progressivesucus, jim clyburn, he's got the teamsters and local officials. how do you deliver with economic policy with barnes? >> yeah, thanks, andrea, thanks so much for having me. i think why we've seen so many momentum in the campaign and why the polls are tightening because our economic message is the one that worked since day one. we've been talking about how to put money back in people's pockets. this is one that differ on ron johnson greatly. johnson had the tax cut and took it away from working class americans. i actually want to bring those back, things like making gas mileage tax deductible. union dues tax deductible. your travel to and from work tax deductible. these are all things that ron johnson took away from working class voters at a time when they need it most. >> of course, ron johnson is the republican incumbent. and this is considered by the cook political report one of the two top races where democrats could pick up. so, when we look at ron johnson and some of his policies, h

. >> mandela barnes revealing his mother needed an abortion before he was born. >> if she was forcedy to term, that would have created all sorts of additional mental and physical health issues for her. i wouldn't be here today. >> while democratic governor tony evers has promised clemency for abortion providers, doctors fear they could still be at risk of being prosecuted in the future. none of the leading democrats back restrictions on abortion. >> should there be any restrictions including late in a pregnancy? >> i think women should have a right to make their own health care decisions. >> johnson has said little about how the law will impact the state but said at the supreme court -- >> it's the appropriate decision. >> campaigning on inflation while attacking president biden's policies. >> that's the burden of joe biden's inflation tax on wisconsin families. >> some democrats aren't even saying if the unpopular biden should run again. >> do you think he should run for a second term? >> the president needs to do what's best for him. >> you think joe biden should run for president

filibuster so we can pass it -- and yes, john fetterman, i'm looking at you in pennsylvania, mandela barnes, i'm looking at you in wisconsin -- we bring them in, then we got the votes, and we can protect every woman no matter where she lives. >> you saw justice thomas' concurring opinion calling on the court to reconsider rulings on contraception, gay marriage, are you concerned about that? >> i am deeply concerned about that. i understand that the rest of the courts said no, no, we're not going there, but remember how we got to where we are. when roe versus wade first came down, there was a tiny minority that really put a lot of energy in effect for themselves and for republicans putting roe on the ballot over and over. but on the ballot didn't mean try to get it through the congress because they knew they couldn't do it, they're not even close to having national support for that. so instead it was about getting extremist judges into the united states supreme court and let's see how much credibility those justices have now. let me play the tape of one after another saying that roe versus w

there's mandela barns in wisconsin, there's actually some concrete elections that are right before usthat could change everything. these would be for the midterm elections. and if they were elected, we could get rid of the filibuster. then we could -- get the woman's health protection act passed. >> are you confident? i don't mean to cut you off. are you confident that if you were to do away with the filibuster you would have the votes in place even with the civil majority to get the women's health protection act across the finish line? >> that's why it was so good that the senate did take the vote on the women's health protection act. because there were 49 actual votes for the bill. we were only a few of. and the two so-called pro-choice republican senators did not vote for it. they should have voted for it. because the reinstates enshrines the protections of roe v. wade into law. and so there are other votes that are even above the 49. but right, now we have a solid 49. we are only one or two votes away. >> so you made mention of these two, as you put, it so-called pro choice, pro a

mandela barnes, i'm looking at you in wisconsin.em in, and then we've got the votes and we can protect every woman. no matter where she lives. >> i mean cleve, she's being clear how many seats she needs. which sheets she sees this promising. how do you see this all playing out in congress? >> i mean, the call is there, and the call has been there for a long time on not just abortion but voting rights and criminal justice reform and all of that stuff. from the white house standpoint, one of the things we were eagerly listening to when biden was speaking is, what is he going to say about the filibuster? about expanding the supreme court, about all of these big ticket things that people are wanting to do. it's still unclear on whether he will -- the full weight and power of the pulpit into getting rid of the filibuster or extending the court. >> it strikes me that i have asked you that about medication abortion and i have asked about the hyde amendment. i asked about clinics on federal lands. we talked about the filibuster and the answ

we are asking wisconsin's lieutenant governor, mandela barnes l