marm mandelbaum today would have been on wall street, and i mean that in both intelligent and sort of nasty side of things. at a time when you think about it, if you are not to bring a real woman, or woman with business skills, there was almost nothing to do besides cry. everything else was closed off to you. she was a brilliant entrepreneur. she was a crook, no question, but i have to admit, no regard for. those a lawyer for the wilds which was an irish gang associate with the area on the lower east side which he might be tomorrow. they ran into -- you can't call a padlock. basically they disintegrate in the late 1880s because four leaders in a row were convicted of murder. howe and hummel defender three of them obvious and successfully. the fourth they did not defend, and i think it's because the fourth person left his victim almost literally on the doorstep because a couple steps away. so i would recommend if you're doing a murder and you want a particular lawyer, do not leave the body on the doorstep. and, finally, they were the lowest and most of the great bank brokers of the air