any of the other great manders and he felt he had to surrender. they would have made a different decision and taken a different path earlier. >> one other question. i read a back or part of a book, i think the author's name was walker? it's about the war of 1812 that came out last year. his point largely in the book was and it may be a retor cal question, but until 1812, there was question about what parts of canada may be part of the united states or vice-versa. his argument was that the war of 1812 definitively ended that discussion. >> not entirely. one of the arguments that alan taylor makes in his book and it's a good one, there were two conflicting visions about what was going to happen in north america. were in north america. were we going to nex canada or was our republican experiment was going to collapse? and who knows what would happen in its place. now where i think taylor is wrong is he argues that a number of british and canadians actually believed the u.s. collapsed, and they were eager to reestablish the british empire before the 4