i'm joined by mandy reed, who's the leader of the you case, women's equality party. she joins me now from london, not the longest of legacies for less trust. how do you think she's going to be remembered? i think she is going to be remembered as a complete basket case of a prime minister. and i think that reputation will be rightly deserved for the last 44 days have been catastrophic for the country for our democracy, for our economy. and she presided over that, she can't blame external events. she told us the conservative party, what her platform was gonna be. she ignored people trying to counselor towards a different direction. and so i do think she's got to take responsibility for how everything is panned out or of course at the bring cover of a change of leader. but do you think they'll be a seismic change to the governing party? i think that's unfortunately highly, unlike key. c this trust, i mean the 1st and last thing she did in the national interest was stepping down the governing party. if they want to act in the national interest. the new prime minister nee