. >> why did mangalore become mangalore, do you have a theory. >> why did he become the symbol of theholocaust of ou off all h and the people who create popular culture. i think -- i have a google alert on my phone which gives me a message several times a day, every time mangalore is mentioned in the world press or on any tv show. i got won this morning that one of the great german actors who pretrade in some film died yesterday. every single day he is promoted as either in a historical sense, mostly inaccurately but he's invoked or lately with the coronavirus, there is lots of metaphors or comparisons, whether we need him there to help us find a solution or whether trump will replace ouc ouchi. but more often than not it has a benchmark if there is a bad manager in a bank. it certainly has -- one scholar said it's been separated from his person and part of what i tried to do in the book was to explain who that person was. >> you most definitely have, the biography and a detective story but it's also a research history book, it is an amazing book and i encourage all of you to get a ho

mangalore -- mengele had a chance to build a convincing cover story, no longer clad in ss uniform. the steel hospital started wisely, to surrender, they decided not to surrender to the soviets which would have been unwise, and drove to the american lines in bavaria and taken into custody. mengele was in two different pow camps. likely under his own name at the end, released under his own name there are three reasons he was released by the americans even though he was on wanted lists created by them. the first were very inefficiently distributed, mengele had not seen the wanted lists. the second, mengele was part of a unit that was well integrated in the unit but the most important reason is mengele didn't have the ss tattoo under his left arm, the blood type a soldiers so if they were wounded, medics would know what kind of blood to use for transmission. mengele did not have the blood type tattoo which removed the most common mark of someone in the ss. he passed through an extremely effective litmus test which was to have interned soldiers, mengele was released by the us without an

who was joseph mangalore? one - - minghella he was born with horns on his head and evil incarnate but we know that is not what your book is a. so i would like to learn a little bit more about him. what was he like as a kid? >> i don't really know. there's not a lot of good sources actually is his own writings about himself he wrote an autobiography for his family and was completed in the 1970s that if he were free from free from the facts he could make his life something more illustrative and important. when he talks about his childhood he spends about 100 pages. that says how important he thought he was. and of what he was to become. and an incubator for that kind of future would have been. there are no stories and to grow up in a prosperous and loving family. and parents and cared for him that even points to the politics. >> what did he study? what kind of student was he? >> in germany he was a little student. and was not outstanding in the classroom. part of that is because he had a serious illness as a chi

contact with american force forces, and the reason for that the family had choreographed a ruse that mangalore had died. women there was a card file that josef mengele had died. and then to help josef mengele out of germany without any official hell. and those surfaces of experience guides were very practice getting people over the border and were able to purchase false identities. >> the book tells a detective story on others and what the life was like do we have time to come back to that quick. >> and went to makes talk one - - make sure we spent time in auschwitz. >> you and i talked and at one point said you were quite anxious about how it might be received and concerned tell us why you felt that how you feel about his work at auschwitz. >> i worked in the case back in the eighties, i believe the common picture of mad scientist of a grotesque and sadistic interest and coming across the document of the head he sent to the lab after being put into formaldehyde. what exactly what the science was all about i accepted this caricature which came along with tremendous support from popular culture

case however that the taliban have also committed atrocities like the one against the wedding in mangalore and others in the past but ultimately it doesn't really matter everybody is on notice that you cannot attack civilians this is a clear violation of international humanitarian law and every side has violated this so we have at this point again and again and again over the years and we're at it again it's just that yesterday's attack was worse kalen brutality than anything we were in his that's the thing because unfortunately well tragically really for afghanistan and the afghans at the place there is no stranger to violations of human rights law but there is a brutality behind the attack of you know maternity department with newborns and pregnant women and mothers who have just given birth d.c. that is an indication how do you think that ultimately it doesn't matter who's behind it but this really shows the situation in afghanistan. yes and i think that that's the most important point there are attacks and have been attacks in kabul countless times but the brutality of an attack on a m