we begin this evening with a report from dallas, from manny fernandez of the "new york times." >> go back to this morning with the chief, and near the top of that press conference, he gave one of the best summaries of what it's like to be a policeman in america today, and what he said, i've heard from other police officers, and essentially the chief was saying we put too much on our officers, we expect our officers to solve too much of society's problems. schools fail, give it to the cops. there's a loose dog problem in dallas, give it to the cops. he went through this whole litany and he said it's too much, he said we can't do it all. and i've heard that from -- worded differently from a lot of different people in law enforcement. and i think that that's part of it. i think it's part of it, sort of thinking about what is it we want our officers to be doing? what is their role, you know, and sort of just acknowledging, like, what we ask of them when we put them on the front lines. >> rose: and we continue with comment and perspective from charles blow, a columnist for the "new york t

joining me now is manny fernandez. thank you for coming in. i know how busy you are. manny: thank you for having me on. charlie: give me a sense of dallas today and the president, and 43 as well coming together with the vice president. in a veryallas is interesting point. it is very relaxed, typical city. there was a bunch of school kids leaving. so many people stopped to shake his hand, to hug him, too, to him. as i talked to him for a few minutes people came up to him and shook his hand, asked how he was doing. me whatlly captures for the city is going through right now. charlie: part of it for me is the chief of police seems to bothdone and communicates with a sense of calmness, integrity, and an understanding. charles: his role -- manny: his role and his performance today at this press conference really sets the tone. you are right. he has been extraordinarily personal, extraordinarily frank and honest, he has not shied away from talking about race, how hard it is to he a police chief. this morning he used a little bit of humor talking about how he said my brain is

joining me now is manny fernandez. thank you for coming in. i know how busy you are. manny: thank you for having me on. charlie: give me a sense of dallas today and the president, bush 43 as well coming together with vice president biden. charles: dallas is at a very interesting point right now. because on one point, walking around is very relaxed. a typical city. there was a bunch of school kids coming into my hotel as i was leaving, getting ready for some kind of event. on the other hand, there is a hint of tension and a lot of grief. i talked to one police officer and it said it took them 30 minutes to go from his car into a store to buy a coke and walk out because so many people stopped him to shake his hand, to hug cam, to come up to them. -- talk to i came them, people were coming up to shake his hand out of the blue, ask him how he was doing. that really captures for me what the city is going through right now. charlie: part of it for me is the chief of police seems to have done and communicates both with a sense of calmness, integrity, and an understanding. man