the same thing with manny ramirez. he may be a little less so but he's still known as a happy-go-lucky guy. you get back to the field and you perform well. you know, manny was taking up a problematic drug for sports because it's undetectable. they're active. they can rehab rehabilitate their images in a way that mark maguire can't do anymore. >> lehrer: based on your reporting and your colleagues at "sports illustrated"'s reporting, what is the state of drug use in major sports right now? is there any way to measure that? >> there really isn't. what i actually found while i was reporting that alex rodriguez story is that even the players themselves really don't know. i know we have an image of sometimes a clubhouse and some of this has been perpetuated by jose canseco's book. >> lehrer: he was a ball player who first raised this publicly or confessed and those hearings that we had the clip of where maguire went was the result of his going public, correct? i just wanted to make sure that was in the record. >> yeah, yeah

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