you have to keep the conversation here manson related." >> in my opinion, adopting mandatory federalovernment background checks for purely private transactions between law abiding citizens puts u inexoray on the path for a itself registration. >> it is not currently proposed but if the bill being considered were adopted, it would puttous that path. >> jon: what about the path we are actually on now? i believe it's at the corner of carnage road and bang-bang boulevard. you're saying we can't turn off because the exit ramp might merge into a government registry off ramp that could, if you go far enough down and on, i don't know, stalin avenue or hitler way, or worse the l.i.e., which really, really is bad? but nothing embodied yesterday's cynical exercise in disingenuous debate more than this next line of argument. >> i believe we should not restrict transactions between law-abiding citizens, especially when we will not prevent such transactions between criminals. >> we ought to recognize that we can't legislator away the evil that is about us. >> people who steal guns do not submit to

one of the women of all send manson's gang. they had to have a whole new theory then but tape was written on jeffrey mcdonald's wall. it's impossible to conceive that this man would stamp himself in order to frame a manson gang by writing on the wall and none of it made any sense to me. >> a is a really good example of just the thing i was talking about. i see the word written in blood. while that could be evidence that there is a manson style crazy hippie who killed the family or it could be proof that mcdonald wrote big to make it seem he staged the writing to make the police think that there had been a manson style intruder. evidence is very very finicky kind of thing and how you reason your way with evidence through some kind of conclusion really deeply fascinates me. >> the way the criminal system works you start with a motive and the means and opportunity. for anyone living in a family who has the opportunity and that means, anyone whether it's sam shepard -- [inaudible] >> there is a motive to him but one motive is to ha

i remember mentioning manson when his t-shirt was the hottest selling t-shirt in the the country.e death of over a dozen people. some people find value in things that are macabe go the money should go to the victim's family or to victims in general. reminds me of celebrities who buy paintings of john wayne guycy. i think it takes you into a tool because you are building up the reputation of couple scum? >> geraldo: you have firm judgments. i watch you on "the five" and i know that now you will never by buy a murderer's artwork. i was worried you were going to run out and take your bonus check from fox and get it the charles manson socks. >> greg: now, i know why jodi follows you on twitter. such a jerk. up next, a horrific situation in fail famous music. why is the mainstream media ignoring this story? "the so...how'd it go? well, dad, i spent my childhood living with monks learning the art of dealmaking. you've mastered monkey-style kung fu? no. priceline is different now. you don't even have to bid. master hahn taught you all that? oh, and he says to say (translated from cantone

so somebody tried to smuggle a cell phone into charles manson a couple weeks ago, he would probably start saying i want to tweet my daily meals and stuff like that and all of a sudden they'll have followers because people are sick and stupid, speaking of. bill, if you tweet her, perhaps she will take a liking to you and you will start dating and then she will murder you too and then we can finally get rid of you. >> i think she should follow me. she has excellent taste. donald trump, anderson cooper, dr. phil. these are all people she follows. i think you find out when you hack your boyfriend to death, claim it was self defense and that you blacked out most of it, go to jail, start lampooning everyone, that's when you know who your real friends are. your real friends come to jail, have horrific tweets to retweet. this is the one she did for the prosecutor, the little man one. she goes, hmm, anger management problems anyone? that was workshoped. that was planned. they sat in a room together and after hours that's what they turned out. >> it's amazing because the jury isn't allowed to watch

murderer charles manson and robert kennedy's assassin, sirhan sirhan, are among the most notorious inmatesnees. officers were accused of arranging gladiator style fights between rival inmates that often had to be stopped with lethal force. >> officers betting on these fights, who's going to win, who's going to stab who, who's going to kill who, who's going to beat who bad. >> all of the indicted officers were subsequently acquitted. george galaza was warden at the time and had to tackle the daunting task of getting corcoran back on its feet. >> when i got here in 1996, corcoran frankly was under an intensive media barrage. the impact that that had on the staff here, it was tremendous. you cannot maintain a prison like this well if your staff morale is poor. so, the first part of it was getting the staff morale up. the next thing that we focused on was the issue of violence. >> you might have to fight. >> in a prison like this one, because of the types of inmates that we have, violence is a real thing. >> you might have to kill. you might have to stab. >> the inmates generate violence among

it fed all the fears that we have a charles manson type character that god knows could break loose and be planning what kind of havoc upon us. of course there was no knowledge or understanding among the more general public about who these people really were. >> majority of the people out there seeing this interview will have a negative connotation. you have taken the perspective you wanted and that's all that's been out there. >> was he determined to lead followers to an apocalyptic war? >> he thought he was the lamb of god, god, messiah thought he could do anything in the name of god. >> or is there a story about waco that hasn't been told? >> the dominant thing is child molesting david koresh. started up arms and ended up committing suicide. the way waco should be remembered is to have a full understanding of how the government operated and how the clash between the two led to this disaster. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to

so somebody tried to smuggle a cell phone into charles manson a couple weeks ago, he would probably start saying i want to tweet my daily meals and stuff like that and all of a sudden they'll have followers because people are sick and stupid, speaking of. bill, if you tweet her, perhaps she will take a liking to you and you will start dating and then she will murder you too and then we can finally get rid of you. >> i think she should follow me. she has excellent taste. donald trump, anderson cooper, dr. phil. these are all people she follows. i think you find out when you hack your boyfriend to death, claim it was self defense and that you blacked out most of it, go to jail, start lampooning everyone, that's when you know who your real friends are. your real friends come to jail, have horrific tweets to retweet. this is the one she did for the prosecutor, the little man one. she goes, hmm, anger management problems anyone? that was workshoped. that was planned. they sat in a room together and after hours that's what they turned out. >> it's amazing because the jury isn't allowed to watch

they are no longer pursuing criminal charges against bryan manson because of a lack of evidence. he was accused of throwing the fireworks that started the robbers fire. it cost the state $13 million to fight that fire and destroyed one home and several other buildings. a couple who lived in the fire area said they couldn't believe the outcome of today's court appearance. >> the fire work i mean he obviously he admitted to doing that part of it. >> reporter: the district attorney could file new charges if investigators end up finding more evidence. >>> a large demonstration wrapped up at san francisco's union square about 15 minutes ago. employees voiced support of a plan to add a union member to if hyatt corporations board of directors. the move will give hotel workers a voice on how hyatt operates. the hotel chain had no comment today. more protests are planned in san francisco tomorrow and thursday. >>> in san francisco a hearing is going on right now about a series of concerts set for one of the new america's cup venue. the entertainment commission hearing is focusing on a con

. >> he talked to joe manson. he said this is the best deal the n.r.a. could have asked for because they got several different things they asked for. the ability someone from a state who has broader gun laws being able to go to another state. traveling with a weapon has been a big concern. he said in the moment with the people who cut this deal the n.r.a. couldn't ask for anything more. gwen: what happened to registration? >> that's seen as a bridge too far for too many members of both parties. >> but under this deal, they do have to keep the records? >> correct. and that was a big necessary for democrats. shuck schumer, the senator of new york especially said that will help law enforcement more than anything. >> thanks, ed. and welcome to washington. >> greet be here. gwen: it was impossible to identify traditional winners and losers. on the budget, democrats were mad at the democrat in the white house. while some republicans couldn't agree on the president's promise to cut entitlements and the disagreement over guns which has put both between rocks and

these people are no different than the manson family.ork, that was fork that was used to kill zbleeg. >> bob: sharon tate. i have a friend of mine that went to jail for 12 years because they wanted him off the street. f.b.i. guy should have been brought to jail. >> dana: one last point, neither you nor jada were old enough to live through it as bob pointed out. you read the history and came out with a different view than jada did. at our universities you get the point of view which would allow students to think it through. >> eric: that is good point. they will have a version of history which will be different. >> everybody should watch "the five" and "redeye". >> greg: and don't see jada's movie. is saying a woman a attractive sexist she is not bad looking. we'll tell you what he said and whether we think he crossed line next. ♪ ♪ ♪ just one look ♪ and i felt so ah, ah, ♪ real love ♪ with you ♪ oh, oh, ♪ ♪ i wish to be all california girls ♪ ♪ i wish all to be california >> there is a lot of good looking women in california and presiden

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. >> far more interesting and marketing press a lot manson the import quotas. absolutely.n this program earlier talking about the great deformation, how these policies distort the economy. this does that too. it just hurts poor people. other countries. >> absolutely. so the losers -- the winners are, whenever the chosen ones are, but the losers are american consumers, not just your eye if we buy canned your shirt, also candy manufacturers have to pay more for sugar, and other countries who might exploit their sugar to the united states if they could. and that is among some of the poorest countries in the world. africa, the caribbean, brazil, the country's. john: the beneficiary is like this angel family, one of the richest in the country. brilliance of lobbyists. they lobbied me. very charming people. they say that you have to help us because these other countries , they subsidize there share producers. without all this up we cannot compete with them. >> of other companies subsidized sugar producers that means sugar would be cheap. that' good. it is a gift to the american

and manson, you are going to get smaller. hey, what about i my house. you are going have to pay up. you are going to have pay money. this is utopia we are building. >> he is front of a trailer park now. this is so good because it proves that he is a class warrior. he hates -- he doesn't hate. he is going after every class. you think about the payroll tax hit everybody. one of the most regressive taxes is imposed by president obama where he raised taxes on everybody. >> neil: and people enjoyed the cut for two years. it was put back and everyone felt it. these are lot new when they all come to pass, i don't know about you, dagen the hit could be severe. >> you know what shocked me more than anything, i won't tell you what part of me, they want to cap how much you can save in a tax deferred in this this country. this white house, they know what we need. they know what is right in their minds. three million is most you can put away. you only need what is necessary for you is $205,000 in an annual annuity. it sounds like a lot of

the manson family, they still need a really good movie and maybe you can do something on the unabombero. they were all radical revolutionaries. up next on the five, a massive cheatincheating scandal robs thl system. >>> in a stunning twist, it's not the students in hot water. dana has the latest on the classroom controversy after the break. [ music ] [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new ss told him two ings -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find se good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. colleagues on the five. ♪ >> so it's one of the worst cheatincheating scandals in they of american education. 35 atlanta public school teachers and administrators have been indicted on charges of large scale racketeering and corruption, a

they are no longer pursuing criminal charges against bryan manson because of a lack of evidence. he was accused of throwing the fireworks that started the robbers fire. it cost the state $13 million to fight that fire and destroyed one home and several other buildings. a couple who lived in the fire area said they couldn't believe the outcome of today's court appearance. >> the fire work i mean he obviously he admitted to doing that part of it. >> reporter: the district attorney could file new charges if investigators end up finding more evidence. >>> a large demonstration wrapped up at san francisco's union square about 15 minutes ago. employees voiced support of a plan to add a union member to if hyatt corporations board of directors. the move will give hotel workers a voice on how hyatt operates. the hotel chain had no comment today. more protests are planned in san francisco tomorrow and thursday. >>> in san francisco a hearing is going on right now about a series of concerts set for one of the new america's cup venue. the entertainment commission hearing is focusing on a con

. >> far more interesting and marketing press a lot manson the import quotas. absolutely.n this program earlier talking about the great deformation, how these policies distort the economy. this does that too. it just hurts poor people. other countries. >> absolutely. so the losers -- the winners are, whenever the chosen ones are, but the losers are american consumers, not just your eye if we buy canned your shirt, also candy manufacturers have to pay more for sugar, and other countries who might exploit their sugar to the united states if they could. and that is among some of the poorest countries in the world. africa, the caribbean, brazil, the country's. john: the beneficiary is like this angel family, one of the richest in the country. brilliance of lobbyists. they lobbied me. very charming people. they say that you have to help us because these other countries , they subsidize there share producers. without all this up we cannot compete with them. >> of other companies subsidized sugar producers that means sugar would be cheap. that's good. it is a gift to the american

maximum security prison that has housed some of the nation's most infamous criminals including charles manson and the founder of the mexican mafia. despite its reputation, violence doesn't come naturally to everyone at corcoran. >> i don't see myself as being like many of the people here. what i saw the longer i was here is there really is a thin line between them and me. >> before he was an inmate, stefan parro was a librarian. >> i'm here basically because i'm an alcoholic and i've done a lot of drugs, too. drugs are part of my story. >> parro's drug use resulted in a six-year sentence for crimes including burglary. >> at that time i had been married not very long. my wife was pregnant. the fact i couldn't stop drinking and i couldn't stop using, it was difficult to deal with the shame and guilt of all that. >> parro and his wife eventually separated, but he landed in prison for breaking into her home and stealing her credit cards to pay for drugs. >> i readily admitted to it. that was one of the problems in my defense. i had no defense. i said, yeah, i did go in and take the credit cards.

. >> florence -- you used to be a member of the manson family, right?ook at the picture on the left. you do not see yourself that way. >> if i had to do it over again, that's not how i would describe myself. but as kayla was saying, i was trying to give him the details so he could get it right. clearly i learned i have a microscope up next to my face and it's not necessary. >> we have mirrors all around, it's not as if we can't actually see our reflection. >> it's light-hearted but serious, we struggle with our lifespan, with how we see ourselves on the outside and also on the inside. it highlights that beauty is not just on the outside, it is inner beauty. but sometimes you need to flip the script and highlight, question how you see yourself before you can see the real you. because it's only one you. that's the light-hearted, beautiful you. >> and your daughters are watching. >> what i would do differently now with cass. >> your daughters pay attention to the media. they pay attention to what we say about ourselves and they're always listening. >> how

then they would easily escape like manson. plus they might return to the battlefield, the one we're planning to leave as reported here last week, we've now turned bagram prison back over to the afghans. we held on to it so long because so many americans were afraid they would return to the battlefield. why are we still holding these guys especially the 86 that have been cleared america for release? because the biggest fear isn't that once released, they'll return to the battlefield. the biggest fear is that they won't because they were innocent guys in the first place. so i'm not going to call it un-american. stupid wasteful policies that don't make us safer make the rest of the world hate us and exist only to satisfy the cruelest among us, it is sad to say in this young century that's profoundly american. that's "viewpoint" for tonight. i want to thank my panel scottie nell hughes, devastated woman from the tea party news network, rick ungar from forbes.com and jim mendrinos. thanks for playing ask

so first up at the lectern today was the attorney for the challengers, chris manson of the american civil liberties union. he said basically myriad has invented nothing here. he said myriad deserves credit for unlocking the secrets of these two genes. but the isolation of these genes from a strand of d.n.a. is something that is routine and done all across the country. but the genes themselves, how they work, what they do, what they fail to do, those are decisions made by nature. while myriad deserves credit for unlocking the secrets, it doesn't deserve patents. >> brown: what reaction did that get from the justices? >> the justices are concerned about the inherent tension in patent cases. that is on the one hand we want to encourage investment in research and invention. myriad, for example, spent roughly $500 million until it found these two genes. then on the other hand, you don't want to lock up that invention for years to prevent further research and new uses. so the justices were asking mr. hanssen, well, what incentive will myriad have to do this or any company have to do this kind o

then i went to go visit him specifically on the day where i knew that charlie manson's relatives or friends would visit him and it than it was in a big open lunch room with no glass, nothing between us and i didn't sleep much the night before because i thought it was possible he could basically dive across the table and grabbed my neck and he had a trigger temper. so i just wanted to make sure i didn't say anything to make him angry. i also wasn't allowed to bring in more than 10 sheets of paper. i wasn't allowed to wear an underwire because i had to go through the the metal detector in case it could be used as a weapon. i couldn't bring in a pen. i had had to take it apart and look at it to make sure there was nothing inside like drugs or something like that. i have to think quite a lot about what i wanted to ask him. i've really had to get myself you now emotionally prepared and i basically read through all kinds of documentation that i got through his parents, mother and sisters. interviewed all of them and interviewed attorneys. i have course bonded with him and interviewed as many peop

system in this country, and it was a good enough legal system to convict timothy mcveigh and charles manson and zac moussaoui zacari moussaoui. they think they have to create an exception just for him and it's absurd. he was questioned to see if there is imminent threat to anyone in the world right now and then given his miranda rights. that's normal, that's appropriate and there's no reason to think it should have been done any other way. >> but jeff, the congressman is suggesting that since he was mirandized, he has not cooperated with authorities. if that is in fact the case, the most important information he gave was before he was mirandized. none of that is admissible in court, correct? >> well, not necessarily. i mean, under the public safety exception, the court will weigh whether that statement was voluntary, and that's a complex inquiry and i don't know how it will turn out. but yes, it may be true that he stopped cooperating after he got his miranda rights, but you know what? this is the united states of america. we don't force people to talk if they don't want to talk. they have

maximum security prison that housed some of the nation's most notorious inmates including charles mansoneputation for gangs and violence. we discovered another side of corcoran. one that was tied not to its infamy, but to its location. in the heart of california's most fertile agricultural basin. >> come on, ladies, let's go. >> i had no idea there was a fully functioning dairy farm at corcoran prison before we got there. it was interesting because the inmates that worked on the dairy farm loved their jobs. i think it was the fact that they were around these animals and they were caretaking them and creating something that was valuable. it gave them a sense of purpose that i didn't often see at corcoran. >> this is a good opportunity right here. i live in bakersfield and there's a lot of dairies around there. so hopefully when i get out, the hours i accumulated here give me a job opportunity when i get out. >> i like it. it's better than dealing with the prison. you know? it's a lot better. i enjoy getting away from the yard and working with cows. i like animals. >> it's a functioning da

. >> marilyn manson. ashley: no scissors allowed in the store.k this is a sign of the consumer overall or is it a one-off? >> the consumer has been a lot more resolved than we thought. i think we're in environment where people are actually spending money rather than saving it because they don't believe in the future as much as they did. a what at lot of people don't realize disposable income is highest spent in 19 years. we took 1.3 trillion dollars out of household debt. not voluntarily. so we don't have house payment anymore. after the check is done we do have more money. often it goes towards the kids who are going through that phase. ashley: long hair phase and tattoos. tracy: haircuts. >> tatoo removals. ashley: appreciate it. just a little quarter past the hour time to check again on these markets. nicole petallides at nyse. nicole, popular food and drink companies out with earnings today. >> we'll take the opportunity to take a look at some of these names really household names for that matter. panera bread which actually hit an all-time h

these people are no differentom than the manson family.fork. you know what that meant? that was the fork meant to kill sharon tate. these are sick people! >> i have a friend of mine who was railroaded by the f.b.i., went to jail for 12 years on a phony charges because they wanted him off the streets. >> so protest, bob! protest! peaceful t protest. >> he should have been in jail. >> you shouldn't blow people up. >> and you shouldn't railroad people, right? >> neither you nor jada pinkett were old enough to live through, as bob pointed out. but you read the history and came out with a very different view than jada did. at universe, you don't get the point of view that you just put forward, which would allow students to think it through and come to their own conclusions. >> that's a great t point. our kids are learning from these radicals and they'll have their version of history, which is very different. >> everybody should watch "the five" every day and "red eye." >> yes. don't go see jada's movie. is saying a woman is attractive sexist? p

what do you think that indicates about final passage of legislation, if it includes what senator manson and senator toomey are working on, some kind of, my background checks? guest: you have to get to a bill and work the bill through to get the finality. it is a very important step in that direction, but it is also a result of a compromise between republicans and democrats that was changing the rules so that you would not have a prolonged filibuster on going to a bill. the compromise was this business about can republicans offer amendments, that if we had a shortened. of time for debate on going to a bill, then we would have to republican amendment sent to democrat amendments. i think that will speed up the work of yet united states senate. i congratulate senator reid and senator mcdonnell, two leaders for sitting down and making that arrangement. host: on final passage of gun legislation -- guest: i don't know. until they get the language out there, and even this latest compromise, what do you know about it? what you read in the newspaper. host: they will be holding a press conference.