strikes me is it possible to conceive this man would stab himself in order to frame the manson gang by writing "pig" on the wall. none of it made any sense to me. hmm. a pig is a really good example, just the kind of thing i was talking about. you see the word "pig" written in blood. well, that could be evidence that there's manson style crazy hippies who killed the family, or it could be proof that macdonald wrote "pig" to make it seemed he staged the writing to make the police think that there had been a manson-style intruders. evidence is very, very finnicky

the inmate is charles manson. >> we have some manson memorabilia that charles manson has created sinceen incarcerated here at corcoran. >> during one of our shoots at california state prison corcoran, our crew barely got a glimpse of manson before he covered up his window. a recent mug shot shows how much he has aged since first coming to prison in 1971. but his artwork provides a unique insight into his life behind bars. >> here's a scorpion that he's made. basically just taking thread from various types of items, socks and t-shirts and towels, and he creates it and uses -- looks like a marker to color it. this is probably one of the items that he makes the most of would be scorpions and spiders. this is, i would, assume something like a harp, and he's made it out of toilet paper and newspaper. this looks like some dental floss, a small stick, and probably for the coloring he used kool-aid to get the coloring for it. >> why do you guys have it? >> he's not allowed to have it. occasionally we go through and do cell searches and confiscate all items. he doesn't have a hobby card, and ot

now i know how kevin manson must have felt. i mean, i feel so betrayed by south carolina. well, if they're going to turn their backs on my family, i'm turning my back on them. no, i am. from now on -- and i never thought i would ever say this -- i am from north carolina. no, i have to. i have to! i'm a tar heel now whatever the [bleep] that means. and as a north carolinan, i love our state bird, the cardinal. that's a stupid bird. but it's mine now and i love it as much as our state dog, the plott hound. jesus, well, whatever. but most shockingly, i will no longer enjoy south carolina's tanky, savory, juicy and deeply delicious barbecue, made with our unique mustard-based sauce. now instead i now officially love north carolina sauceless vinegar-based meat product that they call barbecue. mmmm. i'll tell you what... ( cheers and applause ). i'm going to get me some. here we go. here we go. for lulu. ( cheers and applause ). mmm. that is a... i'll tell you what. you know what? i might just leave the rest of that for later. okay. ( cheers and applause ). i can't do it. i can'

the manson case was a case of intruders breaking in, and the original police theory of the case, the original theory, was roman polanski did it. luckily he had an alibi. he was in london at the time. but the police loved that idea because polanski is -- much more than jeffrey macdonald, this drugged-up weirdo. then -- >> he was a drugged-up weirdo. >> i'm sure he was. then another case happened about the same time, the la bianca case, "pig" was wherein on the wall, everything. the police did not connect these two cases because they believed that one was drug-related case and the other was a hollywood case, and finally they arrested someone on a speeding ticket, one of the women involved in mansons a gang, and told them about both cases, and then they had -- had to have a whole knew theory. but "pig" was written on jeffrey macdonald's wall. strikes me is it possible to conceive this man would stab himself in order to frame the manson gang by writing "pig" on the wall. none of it made any sense to me. hmm. a pig is a really good example, just the kind of thing i was talking about. you

our church that we built on the broadway and manson it's sold. we filled the chinese community for 16 years. now is that too much to ask to get a mexican museum it's about time about the extended shadows and the traffic. that's has to be done in a holistic approach thank you so much >> thank you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon. i'm angle activate i'm a mexican. i'm here to ask for your support for the eir. we orange county to be able to enjoy the museum and the art. it will give us an opportunity to enjoy the exhibits that perhaps only we have seen in books or postcards. it's essential that our latino community will be able to come to a museum that is centrally located. give us an opportunity to enjoy this whether or not we have a long or short lifespan and on behalf of the? citizen latino community we look forward to having this >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening president chiu and members of the board. i'm the chair the building committee and the incoming treasurer of the board of trustees for the mexican museum. due to the gre

. >> dean has written a letter to charles manson in hopes of starting a friendship. >> i am not disturbed by people in your type of situation. i think you're one hell of a person to manipulate the minds of so many. that's a god to me. i know what he did is a crappy thing, but anyone who can do stuff like that you have to be a different kind of person. >> have you ever thought of the victims in any of these cases? >> no. so i'll keep this short and sweet. just let you know there's someone on your side and still thinking of you. i'm in a county right now, in a crappy bull [ bleep ] situation but i'll be out soon and i hope to keep in touch. >> think charles manson is going to write you back? >> i would hope so. probably not. you never know. stranger things have happened. hopefully he will write back. it will make my life. >> jason flores is fighting for his life or at least to get a decade off his 25-year prison sentence for home invasion robbery and attempted murder. he is due in court in less than 24 hours. >> i mean, yeah, i'm a little anxious, but i'm not really thinking about what's go

. >> charlie manson had his gun taken away. he used a knife. >> reporter: one member even evoking hollywood in his disdain for any gun control measures. >> to all those gun-grabbers in washington, fill your hand, you son of a [ bleep ]. >> reporter: in an op-ed, vice president joe biden hit back. saying those who voted against background checks have seen a drop in their approval ratings. >> the amendment is not agreed to. >> reporter: newtown really did shock the conscience of the nation, he wrote. and that inaction will not be tolerated by democrats, republicans or independents. both the white house and the nra plan on leveraging gun control efforts in next year's midterm election. the nra calling it the fight of a lifetime. they say, they'll continue to battle. >>> now, to the red-hot debate over immigration. we've reported extensively here on "world news" about the students who come to this country, get american degrees but then leave to open up their businesses, creating jobs in other parts of the world. all because they're

as charles manson a bad guy? is dr. gosnell a horror show?hey want to stop and turn it into a food fight. if it's an opportunity to turn into a giant program to inspect pizza kitchens, they would do that. it could be more outrageous and it's because the democratic party is so invested. it's about the women's vote. they pretend they are standing up for women's rights. so babies are having their spines snipped and horror shows where there is a blood on the walls and haven't been inspected in nearly two decades. so what, let's turn it into a fight with the republicans. this is how outrageous everything has gotten. >> i think it's ridiculous there is not blood spattered on walls on various clinics throughout this country that don't have funding or unscrupulous medical personnel, that don't call authorities when this is taking place. it's not just abortion clings. that is why i as a democrat, i say let's look at every health care facility and make sure there are no abuses and unsanitary conditions. we don't have legislation based on one man's acti

. >> it's pretty easy to think, looking at charles manson and going, yeah, put him way. you look eight 32-year-old woman and it's hard. >> reporter: he called arias a terrible witness during her 18 days on the stand. he says the jury did not buy her story of self-defense. but -- >> i believe she was mentally and verbally abused. she's entitled to a fair trial. >> reporter: a new panel of 12 will decide if she lives or dies, retrial is set this summer of the penalty phase. he isn't so sure the result will be any different. >> when you're in a room with 12 people, it's pretty hard to get a consensus on what kind of pizza to order. >> reporter: still the prosecutor announced he's not giving up sending her to death row but if a second jury also can't decide on punishment, she will be sentenced to life in prison. for "good morning america," ryan owens, abc news, phoenix. >> you have to feel for family, they want closure after this time. >> after so many months of watching the trial, interesting to get the viewpoint from the jury foreman. >> ron with the other top stories deve

its inmate population includes manson, robert kennedy's assassin, sirhan sirhan, and some of the nation's most violent prison gangs. lockup crews have also been frequent guests at california's state prison corcoran. >> you might have to fight. you might have to stab. you never know. depends on the situation. >> a lot of times it is fist fights out here. but i would say maybe every other month we get a righteous stabbing. when they do stab each other they go for the kill. they don't just stab each other to play around. >> every morning you wake up you are dealing with 1,000 different attitudes. you never know what can happen on that certain day. all you can do is think the worst, hope for the best. >> we met two inmates on the yard at corcoran who are much more pro-active when it comes to surviving life in this powder keg. they gave our crew a tutorial on how they do it. >> the rules you want to live by behind the walls you want to give everybody the same respect that you expect to receive from them. >> without order we have anarchy. when we have anarchy we have people die here. >> robert

on face back ambr road, charles manson could be elected in south carolina as long as he ran as republican. i think you're right and family is very important to chuck, that would help him out with the south carolinaen voter as well. if you have a question for "viewpoint." write to fug fusion john fugelsang on our facebook account. former south carolina republican governor mark sanford won a special congressional election last night to defeat democratic challenger liz colbert bush. if a sex scandal with your argentinians lover doesn't prevent you from winning the family values vote, tell me what possibly could. here to tell me what possibly could, joining me on my none expert panel richard chassler. and comedian jim david glad to have you back, and jeff kreisler, great to have you back. some people are surprised that a guy who publicly cheated on his wife in such a heroic way and did it with public funds which he was forced to pay back, $07,000, could win this action. i'm more surprised that in a congressional race in a 70% white district it could even be this close. if mr. sanford could wi

if it's charles manson, the unibomber, we give them rights. that's what we should do for everybody.t's what makes us better than them and the chaos that is out there in the world. if you believe that american is the shining city on a hill, this is when we prove it, that we don't necessarily feed into the reaction that i had. walter's right. ok? we do things by the book and we eventually bring them to justice. all right. we're going to take a break. when we come back, we're going to talk about jeff blake. he's in a panic. he's the lowest rated senator now because of how he voted on guns. all of a sudden, reconsidering that vote. we'll talk about it when we come back. guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the he

hear from the congressman is they might be able to escape from maximum security prisons like charles manson did so many times. the president is blaming congress again for the stalemate over guantanamo. you heard counselor warner talk about how under ndaa, the president could do the transfers unilaterally. what did congress do to stop the transfers and keep prisoners who aren't being brought to prisons here? >> the republican objections are ridiculous. these detainees don't have superpowers. they're not going to escape from a super max prison. it's never happened. as far as what the republicans have done, the same thing that congress did was -- they did this when the democrats were in charge they barred the transfer of gitmo detainees to the united states for any reason including trial, including to serve out their terms. what the republicans did a couple of years ago, they said any time you transfer a detainee out of gitmo even if you're not bringing them to the united states, even if you're not sending him abroad, the president has to certify if person will never again pose a threat which

>> i would say he is the charles manson of the investment world. >> narrator: once living in the lapxury, now this is what he calls home. but bernie madoff isn't going away quietly. >> bernie, in a loud voice, said, "[bleep] my victims." >> narrator: what is life really like for bernie madoff behind bars? >> every time i saw him, he had a smile on his face, you know?

there are reasons, procedural, arbitrariness of the penalty, we think of jeffrey dahmer, bgk, charles manson the years. either because it was not available at the time that their crime went down, for constitutional reasons or simply because it was not imposed by a jury. cases -- then those who did receive the death penalty. of course timothy mcveigh comes immediately to mind. very, very different kind of case than this one. so the arbitrariness is what you are pointing to and that's, i'm sure, weighing upon the jury. >> john, i wanted to ask you more about your project, cornell death penalty project. not just because i, too, went to cornell, but because i'm fascinated by it. you say this happened as a result of the closing of some death penalty resource centers. i'm particularly interested in what you guys talked about at one of your symposia on religion and the death penalty. >> well, the cornell death penalty project does a couple different things. we do academic research and also do some appellate representation. but the symposium you talked about, we looked at different ways in which rel

she doesn't look like charles manson am she looks cute. she doesn't look like a killer and she had porn. she turned the courtroom into a salacious series of stuff that didn't work and i don't think it was ever going to. >> let me play some of. this you defended high profile people, scott peterson is an example. let me play what happened to her boyfriend during the interrogation. so here's one version from jodi arias. >> i witnessed travis being attacked by two other individuals. >> who? >> i don't know who they were. i couldn't pick them out in a police lineup. no jury is going to convict me. >> why not? >> because i'm innocent. you can mark my words on that one. >> that's how that went. so she said -- she saw the two other people do it. then during the trial -- here's what she said. >> did you kill travis alexander on june 4th, 2008? >> yes, i did. >> why? >> the simple answer is that he attacked me. i defended myself. >> all right. so she's lying left and right. you're saying there is no way she could have been convicted. why did this la

i think has that right you know if you can if somebody committed a really heinous crime intro to manson he's never going to get out never going to get it and you know this guy who abducted these women i mean. so it would just never be an issue it seems like you know people who get out of prison or people who we've all deemed are actually rehabilitated or in a sense although there is a police officer goes after people who have violated parole i mean it catches them unawares and there are a lot of people and so you know i mean even if you're out of jail and you know good behavior you still have to prove yourself so there should probably be a amount of time that you show that you are after a couple of years that yeah ok now the thank you so much for being with me it's great to see. such. crazy alert you're ready because there's a new fashion sensation in town the guinea pig that's right earlier this month japanese experimental fashion designer maki yamato made a splash when she announced her new plan to create a full one of clothing and accessories for everyone's favorite rose to the set i

the thing she has going for her through the trial is she doesn't look like charles manson, she looksat different sex talk, which is a slightly different vibe in a case than most mrd triaurder trials. but i think the jury felt manipulated by that. what they're thinking is she doesn't deserve to live because she's a psychotic psychopath that doesn't deserve to live, why spare her life? for what? she has no value. >> but, anne, i think it's difficult for any jury to render the death penalty. it gives everybody pause thinking about what you have been charged with doing. how much might that ultimately overcome all of this? >> i think that, you know, when you actually look at the person and they spent a lot of time with her and they may not like her, i don't know. obviously they convicted her of murder one. when you spend that much time together, you don't convict your family and you don't kill your family. all murder are cruel. look at cases of ted bundy and all the other murder cases. the jurors have to look at her and say we're killing her. how hard was that when you just convicted her

charles manson, notorious serial killer did not get the death penalty, jurors are aware of that evenxpressly consider it. also, she's a woman. we don't like putting women on death row in this country or in arizona. 3,000 people or more are on death row, only 63 of those women. only three in arizona a state with 63 people on state -- no. has 125 or so on death row. so it's not something we do in it this country so that cuts in her favor. all that being said, i think it is a very, very difficult path for the defense, especially given that you're working, chris, with a death-qualified jury. these are people who have already said from jump they can impose and will impose the death penalty if they feel it's appropriate. >> so if you both think we're going in that direction, what is the strongest case for why this deserves the death penalty? paul, i'll start with you, jami you follow on that. >> the strongest case that it deserves the death penalty is the cruelty of the killing and also the preplanning of the killing. i mean, it's the functional equivalent of hiring a hit man to kill someo

week about the watergate and you say by this philosophy every chef with knives is a member of the manson that torture doesn't work. i take his work for it. when john dean tells me something isn't watergate, i take his word for it. because before john dean became a hear -- hero he was a crook. >> that's right. >> stephanie: he is a republican from the nixon white house. >> who went to jail. >> stephanie: right. right. speaking of republicans, you call -- you direct your attention to the lovely state of wisconsin for scott walker. >> yeah, he is putting everything up for sale. you want to by a dorm? how about a prison? >> stephanie: yeah, you say scott walker seems he and his pet legislature has decided to put what is left of the state's public pat ramonny out on the driveway to see who will show up in a mini van to haul it away. and this guy is running for president, right? >> oh, absolutely. and do not sleep on him. he beat the enemy back twice. he has a battle scar that none of these other guys will have. >> stephanie: yeah. >> he has dodged every bullet. he was in iowa this weekend. he