i've had a look around manston.fit, healthy. >> we don't to lose life in >> we don't want to lose life in immediate medical to immediate medical access to doctors and facilities into manston. >> there was a very, very good oversight induction process now in place at western jetfoil and at manston. >> i think this report is hopelessly out of date and i'd encourage anyone to go and have a now. a look now. >> of course the numbers, >> and of course the numbers, you know that there is always a problem with numbers, patrick you know that there is always a protyou with numbers, patrick you know that there is always a protyou know,iumbers, patrick you know that there is always a protyou know,iuhad rs, patrick you know that there is always a protyou know,iuhad a, patrick you know that there is always a protyou know,iuhad a bettrick you know that there is always a protyou know,iuhad a bet with but you know, i had a bet with your mr farage your friend mr farage recently about your friend mr farage recently abowe are 30% down,

so diseases at manston as well. or scabies in scampton. >> oh, prison ship. i'm not going to i'm not going to write. it's not a prison ship. but look, do you know what that conversation, as always, will rumble on. million uk rumble on and on. a million uk children apparently were destitute does destitute last year. what does that mean? i'll see you . likely to do the same thing, won't it? >> you're listening to gb news radio . hi there . radio. hi there. >> michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. communications officer at the institute for economic affairs. reem ibrahim and the former editor of labourlist, pete edwards. alongside me, i want to talk to you about what is destitution even in this day and age, but also before the end of the programme. shamima begum i'm goodness gracious that name programme. shamima begum i'm goodnjustgracious that name programme. shamima begum i'm goodnjust makes; that name programme. shamima begum i'm goodnjust makes me that name programme. shamima begum i'm goodnjust makes me goiat name

we've had the manston firebomb the attack.. >> no one wants to demonise the muslim community and i think everyone recognises is that most people in all communities in this country live here and are law abiding way, but they don't want to make sure that people coming come legally that coming here come legally so that you them so you you can screen them so you can understand who are and have understand who they are and have a as to whether they may a feeling as to whether they may be of committing crimes. be at risk of committing crimes. and that's why it's important to maintain secure borders. >> you're still >> no, but then you're still saying you're pointing at saying that you're pointing at asylum saying asylum seekers and saying they could then could be criminal and then they're terrorists. that's wrong. they've wrong. you can't that they've come, they they are coming, you know, with desperation and you are labelling them all as terrorists possible. terrorists no, those who have their claims accepted for asylum are coming h

people >> although actually the people that cross the channel come in through so through dover go to manstonso it's different , but it's not very different, but they should be determined. >> there. then look, would >> there. and then look, i would defend. >> there. and then look, i would def do . confidence that >> do you have confidence that fine, take point. a fine, i take the point. it's a very good point. do do you have confidence that labour have got the stomach to deal with this? >> absolutely right. we have absolutely. realise this is absolutely. we realise this is a visceral issue with the country. i mean, it's mostly your fault. i mean, it's mostly your fault. i add. i hasten to add. >> a lot of what done is to >> a lot of what i've done is to educate and inform. >> yeah, i know. but you also shone light on you also shone a light on and you also made they made people think that they could about it. and could do something about it. and before just said, oh, before people just said, oh, there's about there's nothing we can do about it, just just the it, it's just it's just like the we

people >> although actually the people that cross the channel come in through so through dover go to manstonso it's different , but it's not very different, but they should be determined. >> there. then look, would >> there. and then look, i would defend. >> there. and then look, i would defendyou confidence >> there. and then look, i would defend you confidence that >> do you have confidence that fine, take point. a fine, i take the point. it's a very good point. do do you have confidence that labour have got the stomach to deal with this? >> absolutely right. we have absolutely. realise this absolutely. we realise this is a visceral issue with the country. i mean, it's mostly your fault. i mean, it's mostly your fault. i add. i hasten to add. >> a lot of what i've is to >> a lot of what i've done is to educate and inform. >> yeah, i know. but you also shone light on you also shone a light on and you also made they made people think that they could about it. and could do something about it. and before just said, oh, before people just said, oh, there's about there's nothing we can do about

you've got two crises in one there and then you've got the problem with the processing centres in manstonne or theshouldn't well, you know, say, well, they're inhumane or theshouldn't evenell, you know, say, well, they're inhumane or theshouldn't even have u know, we shouldn't even have processing centres because people shouldn't be here. you know, the goes then know, the list goes on. then we've an we've got the hotels. that's an issue, to issue, the cost to the taxpayers. but actually i would argue the real problem is that we staring the barrel we are staring down the barrel of migrant homelessness . of mass migrant homelessness. >> mass. >> well, it's not just mass. you've homelessness. you've got homelessness. it's also effect that it has on also the effect that it has on the local communities who live there. remember, we've got something a something in the region of a quarter million people who quarter of a million people who are with their children are living with their children in conditions in hostel in unfit conditions in hostel and b&bs . and that's and b&bs. and that's unaccept