but mao was in charge and deng was mao's man. zhou enlai and mao both died in the same year. they were both ill and they both knew it a they both knew they did not have long to live. and in those last years, mao began to push zhou enlai aside. partly becse he was too close to kissinger and too involved in america. partly bause he had cancer and he put deng in his place. and at that point zhou enlai and deng again developed a very close corporateive relationship where ou enlai in a way was a mentor for deng in learning about foreignolicy, learning about leadership of government organizations and they worked very closely together the very last years of zhou enlai's life. and when zhou enlai died, deng was allowed to give the funeral oration because they had worked so closely in the end. >> rose: who decided on that? >> mao had to give his approval. there was a man who was the marshal who was the one that advocated it. he became the key maker after... the king maker after mao's death and that person... before mao died... because zhou enlai died first that mao gave a prudential t

mao wouldn't do this. mao would begin his conversation. what is your consideration of -- and then he would pose an issue. then he would say whatever you wanted to say and then he would say, but have you considered the following is an every once in a while he was a down again. at one point we were discussing the co-op -- the contribution europe could make to the common defense. and he said they remain as swallows who fly into the air in an approaching storm and flattery country flap their wings. but you and i know the flapping of the wayne does not affect the coming of the storm. so he achieved in that trend to things. one, he gave me equal status with, sort of a philosophy. and then he added that if our living up to and this is how he would cannot be conversation. sometimes he would get appointed, but usually in an enduring way, the very forceful when he spoke e-mail tashi vibrated physical -- almost dominance. the last two times i saw him he had great difficulty speaking and he had to croak out his songs and china being atoned language, t

for mao everything was ideology. i don't know whether it is black or gray as long as it catches mice, so anything that worked was acceptable and he liberated the energy to the chinese people. one has to remember that over the last 2,000 years in 1800 in the last 2000 years china had the largest growth domestic product in the world in the 19th century because of the impact of the colonialism. but the chinese economic growth didn't really take place until just about 30 years ago. >> host: how would you describe chinese katulis on? would you describe it as managed capitalism? >> guest: i would describe it as what would we call it i think a market economy -- >> host: chinese characteristics. >> guest: but it is market economics and guided by strategic decisions from the center which holds establish priorities, and so far it has worked amazingly to have a growth rate eight to 10% over a 30 year period is an extraordinary achievement. >> host: even during times of global recession. >> guest: during times of a global recess

in china when mao and the chinese got nuclear weapons mao made direct threats to nuke the united states and of course lyndon johnson explored military options etc and of course they didn't take the chinese nuclear weapons out so i think you can deter this we have thousands of nuclear warheads russia has thousands of nuclear warheads i think the iranians could do what japan has done because japan has taken it all the way up to actually building a nuclear weapon they haven't done it they've shown they have the capability it's or maybe that's what iran is trying to do maybe around never build a weapon they've shown that they can design a warhead that will fit on a missile getting the missile over here we've seen north korea had a lot of problems with that so we're not in the panic mode yeah but i think what the foreign minister said there is absolutely correct there's no good military option here if you want to make sure you get all the stuff you have to launch a ground invasion which would make the invasion of iraq look nice and right i mean look easy runs a much bigger country the terrai

film earlier lyndon johnson had to deal with this in china when mao and the chinese got nuclear weapons and now made direct threats to nuke the united states and of course lyndon johnson explored military options etc and of course they didn't take the chinese nuclear weapons probably for the same reasons that they didn't know where they were like iran so i think you can deter this we have thousands of nuclear warheads russia has thousands of nuclear warheads iran will have a few and they haven't even put them on a missile yet missile design takes a lot of technology etc so they've shown that they can design a warhead that will fit on a missile hitting the missile over here we've seen north korea had a lot of problems with that so we're not in the panic mode yeah it seems to me at least from what i'm reading that israel is the country that is sort of making the strongest threats against what could be coming out of iran and i want to get your think though what about these claims to the u.n. officials are to the affairs of the united nations that it was actually foreign scientists who step

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[ laughter ] >> we have dry skies for mao but rain will be moving into the bay area. we'll time that out as eyewitness news continues. ,, thousand needy families in san francisco. free turkeys, and trimmings, were delivered t ing developments - i >>> thanksgiving came early for 1,000 needy families in san francisco. free turkeyses and trimmings were delivered to several housing developments including this one in hunters point. the giveaway is put on by pg&e and the randolph institute. >>> here in the bay area, it's as much a thanksgiving tradition as the turkey and the stuffing. standoff between crab fishermen and wholesalers, a price fight is usually resolved in time for the crab to make it to the dinner table but not this year. mike sugerman at fisherman's wharf with what happened. mike? >> reporter: well, allen, let me show you what you're not seeing is the key right now. hello. thank you. we're doing live television here. i got that, thank you. what we're not seeing are crab in that pot. they are supposed to be there. they are not. they always have been, by thanks

when everyone insisted that mao was a madman and that if he were allowed to have nuclear weapons he would start a war with the united states but even put statements were now said we're going to war against the united states even without nuclear weapons because we have so many so many more people and it turned out that chinese nukes were inconvenient for the united states but they didn't really you didn't really change the world and world more recently did we see the north koreans that you know it's not great but the north koreans have nuclear weapons but it's not as if north korea has been able to dominate its region and i don't see her going to proliferation and so now from my point of view we're seeing almost exactly the same kind of rhetoric iran talking about how dangerous the wrong is dangerous iranian rhetoric is and so forth and so forth and it's hard for me to see how a country as weak and as economically vulnerable as it is wrong actually use nuclear weapons to dominate its region and so from what you're saying if we look back at examples throughout history there isn't necessaril

buckley, national review who were very skeptical because their point of view was mao tse-tung is a horrible dictator and a long-term foe of the united states presiding over that totalitarian system, so they didn't like it. but actually the mainstream response in the united states was this makes perfect sense. we're balancing china against the soviet union, it's creative, it's practical, it's constructive. it's helpful. so why not do it? that was the mainstream view at the time, and actually that particular move has had a longstanding legacy. it's never really been entirely rebuked by any president since. >> dwight david eisenhower, first republican president after world warl ii, did he set the tone for republican foreign policy? >> i think he was very important because it was not obvious until eisenhower came in that the average republican in the country would support an engaged foreign policy in the world. i mean, a lot of republicans were more in that taft tradition, they were more skeptical, and eisenhower made it very clear that he was going to lead the republican party in a more intern

> the red star was, well it was the red star of the chinese women's auxiliary during the period of mao'semergence. >> so, yes. >> is that we were white panthers, not communist. we were a party that believed in shaking things up and rock 'n roll and i would say at that point it was all about free love and confronting authority. so the old left was something that we wished we understood that are but we just didn't get it. we were the new left. >> ellen in bozeman, montana you are on with professor leslie brody. al in bozeman montana. >> caller: hayek. hi leslie. you never met jessica mitford? >> no, i never met her. >> are you familiar -- >> i met her a number of times. that is why i wanted to talk to about it? >> how did you meet her? under what circumstance? >> i wife was a writer and she and jessica had the same editor. he used to give literary parties, i guess you can call them literary parties. they were parties, and so i saw her at those places at those times. my wife knew her i think more than i did at the time. my wife is dead and jessica is dead and the editor is dead. i am still

if a chinese kid comes, ask him if he's mao tse-tung. >> jimmy: have you ever run into anyone dressedouple years ago i was in albuquerque, new mexico, and -- [ laughter ] i couldn't remember if they switched states. i was in albuquerque, and i was at a halloween party and there was a guy dressed as the character from "the hangover," and i walked up to him and i went, you're me. and he goes, yeah, right and just walked away. [ laughter ] >> he totally didn't believe me which i find quite rude. >> jimmy: i can see how you would feel that way. by the way, i want to say your television show "bored to death which i enjoy thoroughly just came back to hbo and -- >> that's -- >> jimmy: you're working with jason schwartzman and ted danson. >> yeah, they're good men. ted danson is always trying to like -- he's very hip. and he's always trying to be youthful on the set, and i heard him say, oh, snap. >> jimmy: you did? >> and it was his knee. just his knee. >> jimmy: it was his knee. zach galifianakis, everybody. his movie "puss in boots" opens friday. his show "bored to death" on hbo. we'll be

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. >>> pippa middleton definitely knows how to make her presence known as a party and mao she can help throw one, too. >> that's right. the royal sister just signed a deal to write a party planning book. there's also word that she is getting an advance of almost $600,000. the book will show you how to throw the perfect party with recipes and show you hostess etiquette. the plan is to have the book out in time for the 2012 holiday party planning. >> she is kind of pretty. >> hopefully she can write, too. >> see how that goes. >>> time now for a look at what's coming up later this morning on "the early show." we check in with jeff glor. >> good morning. >> so you get paid 600 grand to tell people how to party? >> i think i could do that for free but, you know, hey. >> you could have done that at syracuse, right, jeff? >> reporter: you're absolutely right about that, my friend. thank you very much for acknowledging. that coming up here on "the early show," shoppers are still in a holiday mood speaking of spending. we spent more than $1 billion online on cyber monday. rebecca jarvis will t

you said he had a style a little bit of everything from stalin, mao and goebbels when he came in. and you talked about how he tried to almost dessertfy -- i don't know what the exact term is but do away with the caucus. what exactly happened when gingrich took over with the cbc? >> well, gingrich saw the cbc as being a threat, too strong. he also he didn't want any other like that. you had the blue dog coalition was coming on. >> and we should explain the blue dog coalition is a group of conservative democrats who created their own counter-group to sort of counter the cbc? >> not just counter their cbc. their primary concern was to keep the farm subsidies going on and they did because they made alliances with the military industrial complex and they're a small group. there are only 32 districts that serve farmers, a very small group but they get a huge sum of money. they got $100 million appropriation for one year at the same time that welfare was only getting 16 billion. and welfare serves many more million people than farmers. the amount of quota, the amount of money paid out to