at mar-a-lago. i was going to a cruise and i had gotten a phone call. but when i got back like a couple of days from when i got back, i i reached out to a friend of mine who worked at another trump property and he said hey, by the way, your boys in trouble here, your boys in trouble, i'm like, what do you mean? and he's talking about carlos. carlos didn't do anything wrong. he's like, well, that's not what i hear. i heard he asked you seal to delete video footage and i said he would never do that. >> i mean you seals making that up. something's not right. so now i'm like something isn't jiving here and yuscil taveras is he was the it employee at mar-a-lago that in the indictment it says carlos had the conversation with about deleting the server. right. >> but that's the first i had ever heard of. that is when a friend tells me that my friends and troubled basically. >> but when you started to think about the conversation you and carlos had about surveillance footage? and then you have this conversat

so i left mar-a-lago. i texted him, hey, i'm on my way. >> he followed me. he pulled

jack smith team thinks the mar- a-lago trial last 4 to 6 weeks. trump's legal team thinks it will last 8 to 10 weeks. now whether it is four weeks, or ten, weeks it could effectively block the judge and the federal election interference case from scheduling her trial in order to get a verdict before the november election, or another words, it could ice her. i saw her. that is when a person familiar with trump's trial strategy told cnn earlier this week. and we see news has not independently verified that reporting, more earlier this week that same person told cnn that as far as scheduling the mar-a-lago classified documents trial, the thing trump is really thinking about is blocking the d.c. federal election case. the idea is to make it impossible for the judge in that case, tanya chutkan, to jam a trial down before the election by using things that are out of her control. trump's team believes that mar- a-lago case, if it is moved to july, could box out judge chutkan from putting the federal election subversion case on the schedule. it looks like

mar-a-lago, you know it very well, maggie, he made mar-a-lago into $80 million. i had many offers.? you can take half of the living room worth more than that. it is worth anywhere from 50 to 100 times that■[ amount, and he stays with it. he is either whacked out or dishonest, one of the other, or both. probably both. but he is a disgrace to the system, and i think new york state was helped a lot today by the decision. socialists doing very well. it is going -- truth social is doing very well. i told him we can to do the new york stock exchange. we don't want to do the new york stock exchange. the people of the stock exchange are very, very upset about it. the top person is mortified, can't believe it. he said "i'm losing business because of new york because people don't want to be in new york and they don't want to go on the new york stock exchange." you can ask them about it, but how can you do that? i would love to go on the newark stock exchange. it was a big thing to go on the new york stock exchange. but people aren't going on the new york psychic change anymore because of wha

so i left mar-a-lago. i texted him, hey, i'm on my way >> he followed me. he pulled out and got behind me. we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had and he had a bunch of boxes. >> you >> noticed that he had thought they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember. the loading. >> and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in those boxes? >> no clue. no. >> i had no clue. i mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate, piling them up. i remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then we're lifting them up to the pilots. >> how many boxes was it? >> they asked me in the interview and i believe it was i tend to 15 is what i remember. i know the investigators. correct? >> and when you look back on that now what i had no clue until probably the end of june, there's a few different things that happen that kind of opened my eyes you know, something's going on here s

and i told him i would tell him when i was leaving mar-a-lago. so i left mar-a-lago. i texted him, hey, i'm on my way. >> he followed me. >> he pulled out and got behind me. we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had and he had a bunch of foxx's. you >> noticed that he had thought they were the >> boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in his box and no clue no i had no clue. i mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate piling them up. i remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then we're lifting them up to the pilots. >> how many boxes was it? >> they. asked me in the interview and i believe it was i tend to 15 is what i remember. i know the >> investigators, correct? >> and when you look back on that, now, what i had no clue until probably the end of june, there's a few different things that happen that kind of opened my eyes to you know, something's going on here so

still disposal to europe to >> in our exclusive interview tonight, the former mar-a-lago employee who worked there for two decades, brian butler told me what he says are other secrets that he believes former president trump, that he overheard for president trump was discussing with pratt >> were there ever any instances when >> you were still working there that you witness for trump was in your view, carelessly throwing around national security information >> you know that it's really, you know stood out to me, but i believe it was april of 2021 there was a member, anthony pratt, who he was coming. he he flew in the night before. >> he's an australian billionaire he finishes his meeting with the former president, gets in the car and his cheapest half says, how did the meeting go? pratt without saying just says he told me and it would be us military classified information of what he told them about russian submarines and us submarines and that's really all i remember hearing and i went what i'm thinking this i'm in the car. i'm like that. i just hear that. so it wasn't like oh, the mee

so i left mar-a-lago. i texted him, hey, i'm on my way >> he followed me. he pulled out and got behind me. we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had he had a bunch of boxes. >> you noticed that he had >> they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in his box and no clue no. i had no clue. i mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate piling them up. i remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then we're lifting them up to the pilots and anderson, one key point on this, kaitlan, poland's and i have been reporting on this story for months, if not over a year now. and when it comes to those documents that were taken to new jersey, that is something that was we were pursuing investigators were pursuing it. it's still not clear to this day where those boxes that went to new jersey ended up? of course cou

he valued mar-a-lago at a tiny fraction of what it is.e is to help his narrative and her narrative because he does whatever she wants. and the judge, what he has done is fraudulent. -- you know it very well. he made mar-a-lago into $18 million. i had many offers. they said i will give you $19 million, ok? you can take half of the living room is worth more than that. it's worth anywhere from 50 to 100 times that amount and he stays with it. so he is either whacked out or dishonest. one or the other or both. probably both. but he is a disgrace to the system and i think that new york state was helped a lot today by the decision. i will give you an example. true social is doing very well, hot as a pistol and doing great, and it's going public and the new york stock exchange wants to have it badly and i told them, we can't do the new york stock exchange. you treat it too badly in new york. we don't want to do the new the stock exchange are very upset about it. the top person is mortified, cannot believe it. he said, i'm losing business because

and yet for now the mar-a-lago classified documents case is on hold. andis instead of talking about trial in congress, the focus is instead on president biden and not just howd he handled classified documents, which as a legal matter is already settled, instead the focus is on biden's age and whether he's fit to be president. the former special counsel himself played a huge role in that. the report made broad and seemingly unusual characterizations about biden's age. and now one of the people -- one of the congress people who questioned hur today was congressman adam schiff. remember that before becoming a congressman, schiff spent years as the assistant u.s. attorney for the central district of california,e meaning he's no stranger to how a prosecution like this shouldby run. he knows the rules, and he does not think the former special counsel has followed them. >> politics played no part whatsoever in my investigative steps. >> you understood nevertheless -- mr. hur, you cannot tell me you're so naive as to not think your words wouldn't create a poli

mar-a-lago■ - you know it very well. he made mar-a-lago into $18 million. i had many offers.u $19 million, ok? you can take half of the living room is worth more than that. it's worth anywhere from 50 to 100 times that amount d ked out or dishonest. one or the other or both. probably both. but he is a disgrace to the system and i think that new york state was helped a lot today by the decision. i will give you an example soci, hot as a pistol and doing great, and it's going public and the new york stock exchange wants to have it badly and i tolddo the k exchange. you treat it too badly in new york. we don't want to do the new york stock exchange and the people at / the stock exchge are very upset about it. the top person is mortified, cannot believe it. he said, i'm losing business because of new york, want to bew york and they don't want to go in the new york stock exchange. you can ask them about it, but you know, how can you do that? i would in the new york stock exchange. it would be a big thing. that would be nice, but people are not going to the new york stock exchange

who worked behind the scenes at mar-a-lago for two decades. and now he is speaking out for the first time in a cnn exclusive. now, let me catch everybody up for a second on who this brian butler is. he's already given testimony to federal investigators and tonight, he told kaitlan collins that back in june of 2022, so he helped trump's body man, walt nauta, deliver boxes of classified information from mar-a-lago to trump's plane. now, apparently, he had no idea what was inside of these boxes. i mean, totally oblivious according dam but wait, because there's more because apparently he wasn't just moving the boxes. is the timing of it. he was moving these boxes on the very same day that trump and his attorney were meeting with the doj at mar-a-lago about what? the classified documents you noticed that he had thought they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> and did you have any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in those box and no clue. >> n

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jack smith's team thinks the mar-a-lago trial will last four to six w weeks. trump's legal team thinks it will last 8 to 10 weeks. whether it's 4 weeks or 10 weeks, it could effectively block the judge in the federal election interference case from scheduling her trial in order to get a verdict before the november election. or in other words it could ice her. ice her. hat is what a person familiar with trump's style strategy told cnn earlier this week. nbc news has not independently verified that reporting, but earlier this week that same person told cnn as far as scheduling the mar-a-lago classified documents mtrial, t thing trump isfi really thinkin about is blocking the d.c. federallo election case. theti idea is to make it impossible for the judge in that case, tanyatuate kn to jm that trial down by using things out of control. trump's team believes the mar-a-lago case if it's moved to july could box out judge chutkan fromut putting the federal election subversion case on the schedule. looks like that trump's strategy. at the endt ofum the day this classic

we know that ■xhe stored that information around mar-a-lago in the craziest of places.n the ballroom stage. spilled across the floor of an unlocked closet next to the toilet. we know that he showed classified military plan to an author. "i could ump says on the recor now i can't, you know, but this is still a secret. still a secret." so much for the declassification theory. we know from the indictment that trump is alleged to have documents with many other visitors to mar-a-lago, and we know despite this outrageous conduct, department of justice give trump every opportunity to avoid criminal charges. again, in the special counsel's words, "after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, mr. trump allegedly did the opposite. he not only refused to return the documents for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then to lie about it." why did the president charge former president trump but not president biden? not because of some vast conspiracy. not because of the so-called deep stat

tonight at mar-a-lago he just said we had no inflation.many voters are expressing in our cbs news polling. >> norah: to fact-check that. there was massive inflation. >> fact-check the inflation. fact-checking that inflation claimed by the president, average inflation under former president trump was 1.9%. if you look at average inflation under the current president, thus far it's 5.7%. so the issue is president trump wants to campaign on what he believes with a very strong economy even though currently the economy, the economic, the unemployment number's, stock market rally are all very strong. they're still this disconnect, right? that's where voters don't feel because they continue to pay higher prices even though the rate of inflation is slowing down. prices continue to go up especially when it comes to monthly expenses like auto insurance and rent and even food continues to tick up. that's what we can expect to hear from president trump as he hits the campaign trail, trying to convince people that the economy was better under him that

i was with the president last week at mar-a-lago.ngs we would do, we have to get there there is a long way between now and november, the idea of what we could do to get our economy moving again, to cut taxes so that everyone would benefit, like we saw last time, secure america's border, people are excited about, that it is why you see the numbers for trump continue to rise, why you see him do so well, not only in primaries but look at polls in swing states with the match up of biden against trump. in states like michigan. and you see with african-americans with hispanics who are fed up with biden policies and lower income families who are getting hit by biden's inflation agenda they are fed up, they want to go back to days of do donald trump wa our robust economy. that was all case we have to get bang to that, donald trump will bring us back quickly. that is where we need to go. larry: drill, baby, drill a tax cuts, deregulation, border control, a good co combination, steve sc scalise i'll see you in washington you look great, god bl

orban was welcomed at mar-a-lago last friday. after the meeting, orban told hungarian state media sunday that trump, quote, will not give a penny in the ukraine/russia war. therefore, the war will end because it is obvious ukraine cannot stand on its own feet, end quote. trump previously pledged to end the war in ukraine. he says within 24 hours if elected. he's provided no details. the detail, joe, is he'll roll over for vladimir putin, and russia will get what it wants. >> exactly. >> well, there will be a new axis of evil supporting vladimir putin and supporting totalitarianism across the east, jonathan lemire. right now, it's vladimir putin and viktor orban who, again, holds out as much as he can. without the united states supporting him, he's out of luck. and you've got china, then you will have donald trump doing their bidding. it is very simple. >> the world is watching. >> with donald trump, there will be a straight line from washington to hungary to russia to beijing. donald trump made it clear, he does not like democrat

he made mar-a-lago, you know it very well, maggie, he made mar-a-lago into $18 million. i had many offers and said i'll give you $19. okay. half of the living room is worth more than that. worth a 50 to 100 times that. he's wacked out or dishonest. probably both. he's a disgrace to the system and i think that new york state was helped a lot today by the decision. i'll give you an example of truth social doing very well and the new york stock exchange want it is very badly and the people are upset about it. the top person is mortified. can't believe it. he said i'm losing business of new york because people don't want to be in new york and they done want to go to the new york stock exchange so you can ask them about it. you know, how can you do that? i'd love to go in the new york stock exchange and it'd be a big thing. that'd be nice but people aren't going now because of what's happening in new york. they don't want to be attacked bay thug like this horrible attorney general and the worst in the whole country. we'll decide about truth social and just an example how this

you what a security risk to hold mar-a-lago enterprise was. donald trump willingness to show photographs of things to different parties that were potentially classified materials. terrified to think of him getting classified briefings now and i hope the agencies dumb at down so they don't share anything with the president they don't want shared with the world. >> the only materials published , i don't know in the washington post and l.a. times. we probably won't read either. congressman adam shipp thank you for taking the time. really appreciate it. we have a lot to get to this evening including a doctored photo of the royal family means for american politics. plus presidential spoiler rfk junior announces his short list for running mates includes, surprise a very prominent anti- vaccine. that's coming up. easy to apply for the whole family. vicks vapostick. and try vicks vaposhower for steamy vicks vapors. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? we're always working von a project.k. while loading up our suv, one extra push and... crack! so, we

mar-a-lago is more than a mansion or a compound. it is a club with membership -- with a membership program that sells access to the public. it has hundreds of people moving through it at any given time. staffing alone required 150 staff members. and while those classified national security documents sat in places like his ballroom, trump hosted more than 150 social events, like weddings and movie premiers, which thousands of people attended. in brief, special counsel smith has alleged that trump willfully and knowingly took highly classified documents to a location accessible by tens of thousands of people. mr. hur, was president biden's residence accessible to tens of thousands of people? >> no. >> did president biden ever bring tens of thousands of people into spaces where he stored classified material? >> not to my knowledge. >> did joe biden advertise and sell memberships of his home to allow members of the public to have access. >> not that i'm aware of. >> did your investigation find joe biden ever hosted movie premiers at his

today worker at mar-a-lago involved in that case has come forward.nvestigators and that he does not believe this case is a witch hunters donald trump would have us believe. butler is referenced as a trump employee five in the indictment by special counsel jack smith. today he knowingly helped trump's fully deliver classified boxes of mar-a-lago to transplant in june 2022. >> what happened is what left me for me. got the airport. i loaded all the luggage i had and she had a bunch of boxes. >> you noticed that he had boxes? >> yeah. there were boxes that were in the indictment. the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember learning. >> did you have any time, any idea at the time that there was potentially u.s. national security secrets in those boxes? >> no clue. i had no clue. we were just taking them out of the escalade, piling them up. i remember they were all stacked on top of each other and we were lifting them up. >> in their indictment, they say that those mar-a-lago workers were loading boxes of documents onto trump's new jersey bound jet. on

and yet, for now, the mar-a-lago case is on hold. instead of talking about a child, in congress, the focus is instead on president biden, and not just how he handled classified documents, which, as a legal matter, is already settled. instead, the focus is on biden's age and wetter he is fit to be president. the former counsel himself played a huge role in that. he reports broad and seemingly unusual characterizations about biden's age. and now one of the people, one of the congresspeople who questioned hur today was congressman adam schiff . remember, before becoming a congressman, shift spent years at the attorney at the district of california, meaning he is a stranger to how a prosecution, he is no stranger to how a prosecution like this should be run. he knows the rules and he does not think the former special counsel has followed them. >> politics played no part whatsoever in my investigative steps. >> mr. hur, you cannot tell me you are so naove as to think your words would not have created a political issue. you understood that

yesterday he welcomed hungary's prime minister to mar-a-lago, with the hard-line conservative leader. >> there is nobody that is better, smarter, or a better leader than victor. >> trump also posted a $91 million bond in the e. jean carroll case. we are going to talk to melissa murray about that in a few minutes are now. we have reporters and analysts in place covering all these new developments for you, and we are going to begin with aaron gilchrist, with the president in atlanta, georgia. >> reporter: set to receive major endorsements here in atlanta today. meanwhile, just 70 miles away, former president trump will be rallying his base, trying to win over voters in a state he narrowly lost four years ago. with the general election effectively underway, president biden launching his post state of the union tour in the philadelphia suburbs on friday with the first lady, telling the crowd democracy is at stake. >> above all, i see a country for all americans. future for all americans. a presidency for all americans. because i believe in america, i believe in you. >> reporter: the campa

onto trump's plane this was the same day that trump's team was meeting with the doj at mar-a-lago. let's listen i had loaded a bunch of the family luggage into a minivan and i was just going to drive it to the plane, loaded up and that's it. but during the us getting luggage, walt asked, hey, i need a minivan. sure. go ahead. >> and then he left and i was i didn't think anything of it. it was a little odd the way he asked me. i mean it's stood out now after all this but him and carlos were gone at that time i didn't know because typically he wouldn't go get a vehicle, drive himself, and get luggage >> so it was unusual for him to make that ask of you? >> it seemed odd to me so if the trump team wasn't trying to hide anything, if they believe that these were >> personal records, why take these extra steps that were unusual to employees at mar-a-lago, why not just go to the national archives and say, here's what we've got. let's hash it out. why this why these steps that now prosecutors claim amount to obstruction >> well, a lot of this does go into a much deeper analysis of how the

for example, one of the witnesses in the case, an employee at mar-a-lago, who was previously unnameddictment, just gave a blockbuster interview to cnn where he revealed that trump moved boxes of classified documents out of mar-a-lago while the fbi was trying to get them back. >> a former mar-a-lago employee is now publicly describing how he helped to move materials related to the classified documents case brian butler says he was a mar-a-lago employee for 20 years and handled car service for the former president butler told cnn he helped trump codefendant walt nauta load several boxes onto trump's plane at the west palm beach airport on june 3rd of 2022. that was the same time the fbi was searching a storage area at mar-a-lago for classified documents. >> so, you know, we're there to assist with luggage, anything that needs to go to the plane. we got to the airport. i ended up loading all the luggage i had, and he had a bunch of boxes >> you noticed that he had boxes? >> oh, yeah, they were the boxes that were in the indictment. we were just taking them out of the escalade, piling th

so mar-a-lago, for example, is a resort.the middle of seizing mar-a-lago, you would then have to take over and assume responsibility for the management of mar-a-lago so that the property value did not go down significantly. that's not the business that letitia james and the office of the attorney general are in in the state of new york. so that's not going to be attractive. so all of these things are going to be considerations when you talk about what the value is but then also what is the ease in which we can turn this property, if you will, or this asset into hard cash, because that's what is king in this situation. >> yeah, the idea that we're basically trying to, you know, that the government is going to have to try to flip donald trump sounds like an hgtv show, but it's the tactical legal process we have to go through. i want to follow up on this. i think this is really interesting. what would be a potential danger? let's say the new york office did go after mar-a-lago. wouldn't there be a potential risk the money it ta

cnn's kristen holmes starts us off tonight with more on viktor orban's visit at mar-a-lago. so what is going on with this meeting? >> well, interesting. that is a very good question. and i just heard from a source who said the actual sit down meeting was about 45 minutes to an hour, and then the two of them went to listen to a tribute band at mar-a-lago for part of a members only evening. the source described them as friends and the meeting as friendly. now i was told we were going to get a actual readout of this meeting and photos from it, but we have not seen anything like that. they had described it to me as a social meeting, essentially saying that the two men were going to sit down with no agenda. but of course, if you have the leader of hungary, viktor orban, and donald trump seems strange that there would be no agenda. but you have to remember one thing donald trump, for all intents and purposes, is a civilian. they are not obligated to give us any sort of readout or discuss anything, take notes, take any kind of transcript with a leader of another nation. but it does

i'm sure you saw the mar-a-lago speech. i was talking to steve scalise bit. >> yeah.hing, you have a lot of supply side blood. i know you. trump is up there, no one is paying attention, all the pundits, republican pundits, he has to unify the party. trump is saying drill, baby, drill. we'll close down the border. we'll deregulate business and we'll have a second round of tax cuts. it is a growth agenda and he is trying to appeal, right, he is trying to appeal to working folks. >> larry: the kind of people you brought into the white house. i spoke to your gang in the roosevelt room once or twice that is what trump is trying to do. >> letting families and small businesses keeping more of their money is always good. it is good for them, it is good for their families, good for their state and community and it is good for the overall economy. you have known that. you know forever. you preached that. that is what president trump did in his first term. let's do it again. what president briden has done three years, 46 days, secure border to no border, safe streets to record c

instead, viktor orban went to mar-a-lago. on here. or at least whose vision most closely aligns with his. if there is any doubt about whether donald trump the same way he cleared that right up tonight. >> there's nobody that's better, smarter or -- than viktor orban. as you know, the prime minister of hungary. he does a great job. he's a noncontroversial figure. he said, this is the way it's going to be and that's the end of it. he's the boss. >> he's the boss. i will talk to jacob, author of america last. the century long romance with foreign dictators about trump's republican party and its embrace of autocracy. to duckduckgo on all your devie duckduckgo comes with a built-n engine like google, but it's pi and doesn't spy on your searchs and duckduckgo lets you browse like chrome, but it blocks cooi and creepy ads that follow youa from google and other companie. and there's no catch. it's fre. we make money from ads, but they don't follow you aroud join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduck

she's outfront live near mar-a-lago and kaitlan. what more are you learning from butler >> we >> are in it is quite clear from what ryan butler has to say publicly now and also what he spoke to prosecutors about many times is that he is a window, a witness to to the alleged obstruction. the allegations against donald trump, walt nauta, and carlos de olivera, that there was a cover-up for trump because trump did not want to give those classified documents back to the federal government. that is no more apparent that it's so obviously a in the indictment in that he's listed as trump employee five, and then he is also in speaking to kaitlan collins, able to say about how he had this longtime friendship with carlos de oliviera, the third person who is a defendant with trump. and that friendship broke down the very last line in the indictment. men against all three of these men, including donald trump, when prosecutors are describing what happened, there, is they describe a moment where brian butler was with carlos de oliviera and gets o

employee, who says he believed he moved classified documents around mar-a-lago and out of mar-a-lago, listen to what he told kaitlan did the two of you ever talk about moving boxes or looking back on that? >> yeah. i >> mean, there was one time towards one of the last times i was with them and we're talking about boxes and while biden did the same thing, you know, you can't get it always have got brought up about biden and other people that did the same thing. and then there was one time we said we're all dirty, we all move boxes and i said, well, look, i didn't even know what i was moving until i was at the plane and that's when i remember moving both to be clear, butler's not talking about a conversation he had with donald trump there. he's talking about a conversation he had with another mar-a-lago employee, but in a different part of the conversation, it's something i was hoping you would all here. he says he moved boxes like the ones that we've now all seen as part of the special counsel report from jack smith into donald trump. so what do you take? get away from his interview w

he needs me to, how long the camera footage is saved at mar- a-lago. i'm like oh, well, that's odd. why do you need the camera footage? why do you need to know how long it is saved? his response was i think they are looking for somebody that was there. i think the american people have the right to know the facts that this is not a witch hunt. >> that claim from the ex- president, this is all a big witch hunt is effectively what his lawyers organized in cart today. they tried to get the case dismissed this afternoon using some tortured legal logic including a claim that the law was unconstitutionally vague. the judge ultimately rejected that particular argument today choosing instead to basicically quick the question down the road. sort of not really resolved. but in some senses that is beside the point. as we keep hammering day after day on this program. trump's main goal is to run up the clock. that is really the crux of the whole issue. both federal indictments are incredibly damning. but even with access to small dollar donors, legal bills will continue to pile up. with the best

the former president will respond from mar-a-lago in a moment. and is tomorrow thend

and they argue that he designated the records at mar-a-lago as personal. now in the second motion, they claim the main statute that the special counsel is using here against trump is constitutionally vague as it applies to presidents. do you think trump's team has valid arguments for either of these? >> i don't. i think that the presidential records act is pretty clear on its face as to what is official records of the united states and what can be designated as personal records. and if you remember that what was in the contents of the box, there were a lot of newspapers and wrestling belts and all that stuff is personal. but when it comes to classified documents, those are government documents, and he can't designate them as personal. he can while president try to declassify them, but that doesn't make them personal either. similarly, with respect to the vagueness claim, this claim i think also doesn't bear scrutiny because i think the law is pretty clear on its face what is it intending to allow, what can the defendant know in order to defend himself on i

[ laughter ] also, i have no idea why you'd want to have your wedding at mar-a-lago of all places i meanu couldn't afford chuck e. cheese that's not fair. a wedding at chuck e. cheese would [ bleep ] kick ass for one thing, the animatronic chuck won't interrupt your wedding to rant about voting machines or windmills killing birds. >> you want to see a bird graveyard? go under a windmill someday. [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah! you're not going to get a chuck e. cheese tangent like that from old robert hur you wouldn't have the courage! so hur was everything republicans could have hoped for, but they were still mad at him. sean hannity even compared it to another investigation republicans are still obsessed with >> today to me was the equivalent of july 2016 and james comey going out there stating, yeah, hillary had top secret classified information, 33,000 deleted emails, bleach pit, hammers, devices, everything we learned, but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. is that pretty similar >> that's very similar exact same >> seth: oh my god, you guys are still talking about hillary

here is how trump introduced orban at mar-a-lago. take a quick listen. >> there's nobody that is better, smarter, or a better leader than viktor orban. he's fantastic. he does a great job.

trump who still wants us to believe he can legally stash america's most sensitive secrets in a mar-a-lago bathroom was back in court today, requesting that the whole criminal case be dismissed. >>> also tonight, vice president kamala harris makes an historic visit to an abortion clinic as republicans continue to push for a national ban. >>> and i call this one. the big push to force a chinese company to divest tiktok would allow the far right maga crowd to swoop in and gobble it up, which now seems very possible. >> but we begin tonight with the lone exception to donald trump's petulant attacks against the judges and prosecutors in the numerous criminal and civil trials against him. that would be one judge aileen cannon, a trump appointee, where remind you, who is overseeing the federal criminal case involving trump's mishandling of classified documents. today's hearing in a florida courtroom on two of trump's motions to try to throw out the case is the latest example of why trump has likely laid off on the attacks. trump himself was in court even though he was not required to be there. o

but the property that you alluded to, mar-a-lago potentially that could be something that could be we sold quickly. i think the valuation is something in the hundreds of millions and i think there could be a buyer for something like that, and that would be literally if you're talking about doing that between now and monday, that's picking up the phone, calling someone and then literally reading check. yeah. i mean, there could be plenty of international people who want to buy that property. i mean, there's properties that are priced at 150.200 hundred million that are nearby, that and palm beach is like the nevada nvidia excuse me, of real estate. it's just shot up like a rocket and people do want to live there. they've moved there. so i think that would be the best-case scenario as to proper if he's trying to sell quickly, i would encourage that. so all right. now that's 240 million estimated. i mean, who knows? so we use a desperate seller in this case. someone picks up the phone and makes that call this week. so i'll know it'd be that's still path of what it would be. so when you l

. >> don't sleep on the mar-a-lago trial. sure. the supreme court's been getting all the attention. >> what >> with arguments on trump's claims of presidential immunity said to come before them. the week of april 22. but there is some big news tonight out of florida. looks like jack smith wants to get the classified documents k is moving as soon as possible, and he's asking for a new trial date. this time the month of july. so while you're on summer vacation, don't trump could actually be in court. so saying in court filings tonight that he believes trump and his two co-defendants body man, walt nauta and mar-a-lago property manager, carlos de olivera, should go to trial on july 8, if not coincidentally, or maybe not coincidentally, one week before trump is all but certain to become the nominee at the republican convention. funny how this works right? meanwhile, his attorneys, who this he can, cannot have a fair trial before the election are now saying about august 12, so what happens if this case goes to trial before millions of a