joining me live is mara rudman, former deputy envoy and chief of staff for the office of the specialith us on bbc news. i want to begin with that further round that we saw today of hostage and prisoner releases, the red cross raising alarm about the way that these exchanges are happening, urging all sides to make them private and dignified. they have also been concerns about the welfare of people involved on both sides. ijust like people involved on both sides. i just like to get your reaction to those images that we've been seeing.— reaction to those images that we've been seeing. sure, thank ou for we've been seeing. sure, thank you for having _ we've been seeing. sure, thank you for having me. _ we've been seeing. sure, thank you for having me. well, - we've been seeing. sure, thank you for having me. well, first, | you for having me. well, first, it's important that these hostages were released, that the ceasefire is proceeding, however much difficulty. with however much difficulty. it's also clear there's a lot of going on, i would of posturing going on, i would say particularly

and for some more analysis on the latest in the region, i wasjoined by mara rudman. the special envoy for middle east peace in the us state department. i just wonder what you think the real chances are for that phase two of the ceasefire. of course, you would have heard the comments from us president donald trump with regard to turning gaza into the riviera of the middle east. prime minister netanyahu had also said during his visit in gaza that israel reserves the right to go back in at any time. what do you think this means for the prospects of a lasting peace? sure, helena. well, first, i want to put president trump's comments aside for now. i'm happy to come back to them. to solve problems or make the world or the united states better or safer or stronger. political problems at home because he has two very are — ministers who have been holding together his coalition, his ability to be prime minister. into the first ceasefire, and the other has said that he will leave if the ceasefire progresses to its second phase. and so prime minister netanyahu yet again, as has