but capitalist and netscape cofounder marc andreesen stepping down from ebay's board of directors after a very public battle with activist investor carl icahn. the two have sparred about ebay's plans for paypal, and icahn has accused marc andreessen of conflicts of interests. this week, the giant announced that they would follow his advice and spin out you may make here. following the back-and-forth -- spin out ebay next year. cory johnson is with me now. i spoke with andreessen and we talked about the future of ebay without paypal and vice versa. i want you to listen to what he said. i asked him specifically is innovation dead, is this a sign that innovation at ebay has -- died. >> it's a sign of change. the industry is changing. it's a sign that the technology is changing. it's a sign that there is the opportunity to do more and better if you're smaller and more nimble. >> they probably wouldn't like the indication that they're following icahn's advice but they made this decision, according to andreesen. independently this was the best decision for ebay to spin off paypal. >> mark and

keeping marc andreesen is an error.ing had this sort of a bit of a fight with apple and not being part of that ecosystem of apple pay is a big error. these are errors he's made. i don't want to say what i tell him. you can imagine it. i can't say it and i'm not going to say what he said. but i am beginning to say that -- you know, i keep my powder dry. i never exercise. we have this confidentiality. but i never exercise. so we talk about what he tells other shareholders. so i don't know completely his inner feelings. but what i will say is i never exercise it because i want to keep my prouder dry, to have a proxy fight, although i have made no decision to do it. like i was at motorola, it could be a great company. paypal is a jewel right now. because it really controls all the small merchants online, and they like them and they get along with paypal, and paypal is almost necessary. but that's not going to last forever. not with apple pay there. i don't know who else is going to really come in there. but they absolutely