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marc elias, the you see him election kerfuffle posting on x knee bent, ring kissed.ence. joe, the literal example of that law school professor use to show defamation. this is day one when you do defamation is when someone falsely accuses another person of rape. is this about obedience or was abc certain to lose this case? >> this is at the top of the syllabus if you are teaching that defamation course, yes. if we are following along correctly. the left is angry that abc news literally lied on the air about donald trump. accusing him of a rape that did not happen in a case that never should have been brought. considering that e. jean carroll could not recall the year this allegedly happened? she was the accuser, of course. they think abc bent the knee? the network knew how this was going to go, todd, because the discovery process, you're a former lawyer. may have revealed some damning evidence about how widespread the bias is at abc news. remember, dana wall done runs abc news. she is kamala harris' closest and dearest friend. she set up doug emhoff with kamala who ev

prominent democratic attorney marc elias came out overnight and said, abc is terrible for doing this. they're kissing the ring. they're bending the knee to trump. this is exactly what shouldn't happen in a democracy. on the other hand, i've seen republican lawyers and allies saying this is accountability for media, bad behavior, plain and simple. they're saying, just get the facts right. be careful on air and you won't face these suits. and what we have seen in a number of countries, including increasingly in the united states, are lawsuits being used as a form of a penalty, as a way to tie up media outlets, cost them a lot of money and embarrass them in public. we have seen that as a phenomenon. however, there are ways to manage that in the courts as well, so we may see more of this in the future, especially now that trump has won this case where one of the dangers or one of the challenges for news outlets is the danger of being sued in this manner. of course, in this case, though, the facts were not entirely on abc's side. as you all said in the beginning, what stephanopoulos said o