out to marc klaas, president and founder klaaskids foundation. marc, i know your specialty is looking for and finding missing children. in fact, i saw photos. you were too modest to say anything about it. of your team with canines when little shannon went missing last week. your people, your team was there. and they helped find little shannon alive. but i want to go to you on this story, on this issue. marc, you and i have seen so many missing people, kidnapped people, murders. you and i are both crime victims. when i see something like this faked, and i think about the cops spending about a quarter million dollars trying to find this lady, this heather locklear look-alike, no offense heather, it just kills me. when i think of people calling 911 that day -- and i'm not saying cops ignored those calls. i'm just saying there could have been more cops, more detectives on those cases while miss thing was propped up in a hotel room with a 25-year-old lover. >> yeah. there's no question about that. you know, when they were trying to synchronize their st

>> i'll go with court-appointed lawyer. >> straight out to marc klaas, the president and founder of klaas kids. marc, it's not look good and the fact that he is under arrest, having last been seens with the little girl, don't know when. i cannot get a time line out of police when that neighbor saw him driving off in his own car with her. we still don't know if she's dead or alive or where she is. that does not bode well. >> well no, it doesn't bode well and i don't think that tell this character not to say anything. i don't think that he intends to speak one word to anybody about this case. the weak link is obviously the mother. what exactly are these conflicting stories of hers? how exactly is it that she puts the little girl down at 5:00 in a house full -- with six other people. and five other people. and is able to fall asleep to the point that she doesn't notice somebody else, comes in, gets the little girl within the next hour. none of this stuff makes sense. if they're going to break this case, she's probably the weak link and the one that they're going to use to break it. >> liz, l

. >> what about it, marc klaas? what do you think, mommy manipulated? >> well, i -- it's against every maternal extinct i've ever heard of to give up your child and then report it missing. this is one the craziest stories i've ever heard in my life. >> well, all i know is, this, marc klaas, this baby is alive. but it has been locked for 12 hours in a wooden chest. no bottle. no toy. nothing. police find the baby. today washington county sheriffs, congratulations! we are taking your calls live. with us, baby shannon's maternal grandmother. mom momy behind barps with the baby-sitter who has a record of her own. >> she was in the box for almost 12 hours. in a closed box. shannon was immediately taken to the northwest florida community hospital here in chipley where she was examined by the local doctor. shannon is currently located at the hospital and we understand that she's in good condition. >>> the story of baby shannon, the 7-month-old baby girl, missing in the florida panhandle five days is now safe and in protective custody. shannon dedrick was found

. >> what about it, marc klaas? what do you think, mommy manipulated? >> well, i -- it's against every maternal extinct i've ever heard of to give up your child and then report it missing. this is one the craziest stories i've ever heard in my life. >> well, all i know is this, marc klaas, this baby is alive. but it has been locked for 12 hours in a wooden chest. no bottle. no toy. nothing. police find the baby. today washington county sheriff, congratulations! we are taking your calls live. with us, baby shannon's maternal grandmother. mommy behind bars with the baby-sitter who has a record of her own. >> she was in the box for almost 12 hours in a closed box. shannon was immediately taken to the northwest florida community hospital here in chipley where she was examined by the local doctor. shannon is currently located at the hospital and we understand that she's in good condition. >>> shannon detrick was found in a 2 x 3 cedar chest underneath a bed. this box had a lid on it and also had a hasp on it. >> shannon was found in a box under the bed of su

out to marc klaas, president and founder klaaskids foundation. marc, i know your specialty is looking for and finding missing children. in fact, i saw photos. you were too modest to say anything about it. of your team with canines when little shannon went missing last week. your people, your team was there. and they helped find little shannon alive. but i want to go to you on this story, on this issue. marc, you and i have seen so many missing people, kidnapped people, murders. you and i are both crime victims. when i see something like this faked, and i think about the cops spending about a quarter million dollars trying to find this lady, this heather locklear look-alike, no offense heather, it just kills me. when i think of people calling 911 that day -- and i'm not saying cops ignored those calls. i'm just saying there could have been more cops, more detectives on those cases while miss thing was propped up in a hotel room with a 25-year-old lover. >> yeah. there's no question about that. you know, when they were trying to synchronize their st

out to marc klaas, president and founder klaaskids foundation. marc, i know your specialty is looking for and finding missing children. in fact, i saw photos. you were too modest to say anything about it. of your team with canines when little shannon went missing last week. your people, your team was there. and they helped find little shannon alive. but i want to go to you on this story, on this issue. marc, you and i have seen so many missing people, kidnapped people, murders. you and i are both crime victims. when i see something like this faked, and i think about the cops spending about a quarter million dollars trying to find this lady, this heather locklear look-alike, no offense heather, it just kills me. when i think of people calling 911 that day -- and i'm not saying cops ignored those calls. i'm just saying there could have been more cops, more detectives on those cases while miss thing was propped up in a hotel room with a 25-year-old lover. >> yeah. there's no question about that. you know, when they were trying to synchronize their st

. >> what about it, marc klaas? what do you think, mommy manipulated? >> well, i -- it's against every maternal extinct i've ever heard of to give up your child and then report it missing. this is one the craziest stories i've ever heard in my life. >> well, all i know is this, marc klaas, this baby is alive. but it has been locked for 12 hours in a wooden chest. no bottle. no toy. nothing. police find the baby. today, washington county sheriffs, congratulations. we are taking your calls live. with us, baby shannon's maternal grandmother. mommy behind bars with the baby-sitter who has a record of her own. >> she was in the box for almost 12 hours in a closed box. shannon was immediately taken to the northwest florida community hospital here in chipley where she was examined by the local doctor. shannon is currently located at the hospital and we understand that she's in good condition. >>> shannon dedrick was found in a 2x3 cedar chest underneath a bed. this box had a lid on it and also had a hasp on it. >> authorities are planning to charge the baby-si

. >> what about it, marc klaas? what do you think, mommy manipulated? >> well, i -- it's against every maternal extinct i've ever heard of to give up your child and then report it missing. this is one the craziest stories i've ever heard in my life. >> well, all i know is, this, marc klaas, this baby is alive. but it has been locked for 12 hours in a wooden chest. no bottle. no toy. nothing. police find the baby. today washington county sheriffs, congratulations! we are taking your calls live. with us, baby shannon's maternal grandmother. mommy behind bars with the baby-sitter who has a record of her own. >> she was in the box for almost 12 hours in a closed box. shannon was immediately taken to the northwest florida community hospital here in chipley where she was examined by the local doctor. shannon is currently located at the hospital and we understand that she's in good condition. >>> the story of baby shannon, the 7-month-old baby girl, missing in the florida panhandle five days is now safe and in protective custody. shannon dedrick was found in a

addition to everything, marc klaas, president and founder of klaaskids foundation. his expertise is missing people. marc. >> yes. >> whoever vacuumed up that sopping wet carpet in the bathroom felt that there was no rush. they had plenty of time to vacuum, to clean 7, to fold up the rug and put it away. now we know she, the victim, would not have vacuumed up her own necklace. she would not have done that. she would have put it back together like she did every other time. so the perpetrator obviously felt that he had time to clean up after himself. he was in no danger of anybody coming home. now who would know that, marc klaas? who would know that? >> someone who is familiar with the routines of the home is somebody who would know that. first i would like to tell cindy to stay strong because she's going to be jayme's strongest advocate throughout this and she needs to continue to take care of herself so she can see this thing through to the end. i am really kind of stuck on this scenario that was built out last night about the stalker. that somebody was so obsessed wi

it seem like this amber alert is actually working. >> to marc klaas, marc, minutes count, minutes count. you're the one that first told me the statistics. after about three hours, whether it is a parental abduct or stranger abduct, the child is dead. for whatever reason. weigh in. >> you know what? if this is true, if they have been located in alton -- >> sighted. sighted. >> sighted. if she is located and she is recovered alive, it is a wonderful thing. the amber alert needs to be tweaked. the criteria needs to be changed. we don't need this kind of central notification. >> in the last minutes that i have you, i'm going to give you the tip line. 207-334-3644. there is a sighting of this kidnapped child, alton, ham hax please take a look at little hail 3. according to police, her life depends on it. let's stop and remember army sergeant thomas vandling. on a second tour, awarded the bronze star work the purple hearts, army commendation medal of love sports, treemd of traveling to australia. leaves behind parents thomas and tie an. brothers, yak and michael. sister elizabeth. american he

marc klaas, i've just been sick about this story, physically sick. weigh in. >> well, i think we have to be clear. this woman pimped her child. that's what she did. she sold her child into prostitution. there is no punishment great enough to meet the crimes that she has committed. really the moral crimes that she's committed and the legal crimes that she's committed. however, shaniya is really the tip of the iceberg, nancy. the department of justice estimates there are between 200,000 and 300,000 american children that are victims of human trafficking. and in each one of those cases there is a pimp that is out there exploiting those children. now, the united states does take this issue very seriously, but relatively few resources are directed towards the domestic side of the issue. almost all of the money that is -- and it's a huge amount of money. almost all of the money that the united states invests in human trafficking is invested in the global issue. and that's based on the theory that the united states was only a source of -- or was only a dest

out to marc klaas, president and founder klaaskids foundation. marc, i know your specialty is looking for and finding missing children. in fact, i saw photos. you were too modest to say anything about it. of your team with canines when little shannon went missing last week. your people, your team was there. and they helped find little shannon alive. but i want to go to you on this story, on this issue. marc, you and i have seen so many missing people, kidnapped people, murders. you and i are both crime victims. when i see something like this faked, and i think about the cops spending about a quarter million dollars trying to find this lady, this heather locklear look-alike, no offense heather, it just kills me. when i think of people calling 911 that day -- and i'm not saying cops ignored those calls. i'm just saying there could have been more cops, more detectives on those cases while miss thing was propped up in a hotel room with a 25-year-old lover. >> yeah. there's no question about that. you know, when they were trying to synchronize their st

marc klaas joining us from san francisco founder of klaas kids foundation. see the button he's wearing. it's a picture of his daughter, pollee klaas. she was missing from her own home, kidnapped, assaulted and murdered. since then, klaas has been nothing but a advocate. the firs thing you did was please, take my dna, my hair, my fingerprints, i demand a polygraph. search my place, search my car, i insist. this mother hasn't taken a polygraph. what's going on. >> in 1993, dna was not a big tool so that never really played into it. we took the polygraph and i think they will give her a polygraph. i think they need to give her one because her story doesn't add up. it just doesn't make sense to me, the business of the little girl put on the couch at 5:30, then totally disappeared at 6:30. one commonality, though, is there is feces in the house, there are sewage problems, there's see feez on the blanket and the porch. there's no way of getting around saying this is a crappy story and the answer lies close to home, as i said last night. >> another question i have,

marc klaas, it's not fitting together for me. weigh in. >> well, first of all, nancy, i think it's remarkable that the name of the parents have not been released. >> i don't understand that. why would you not release the name of the parents? i mean, when your polly went missing, you were practically lying on the courthouse and police station steps going please, polygraph me, take me dna, check my car, check my body, anything, just go look for who took polly. these parents' names are being kept secret? >> well, and it's beyond that, really. because i think another huge gap in this story is the fact that the parents have not made any personal appeals. i really believe that this story is going to be solved or this case will be solved close to home rather than far away from home. i think that the huge challenge that exists right now is in finding the little baby. i can tell you that the klaas kids search team is involved in this particular search. and they are faced with a remarkable set of challenges. it's a very densely populated -

out to marc klaas. he is the president and founder of klaaskids foundation. marc, what do you make of it? and why is it that when we have a so-called parental abduction it's taken less seriously than stranger on stranger abductions? >> well, it's not really taken less seriously, but it's thought that the children are not in nearly as much danger as they are in a stranger predatory type of a situation. but i have to say, nancy, that if this woman was violently beaten at 11:00 in the morning it makes no sense that they would wait almost six hours before activating the amber alert. that tells me it's a failed alert for the simple reason that children who are murdered as a result of an abduction, 76.2% of them will be dead within the first three hours. this should have been called immediately. >> how does that break down to parental abductions? same stats apply? >> yes. absolutely. children that are murdered as a result of an abduction. that's across the board. >> and you know what else, marc, at some point the kidnapper, if he believes that cops are on to him, co

what's going on, marc klaas? >> well, i don't know what's going on.ime investigative tool yet, so that really never played into it. we did take the polygraph. and i think they will probably give this woman a polygraph. i think they need to give her one because her story doesn't add up, quite frankly. it just doesn't make sense to me, the business of the little girl put on the couch at 5:30, then totally disappeared at 6:30. one commonality, though, is there apparently is feces in the house. there are sewage problems. there's feces on the blanket. there's feces on the porch. there's no way of getting around saying this is a crappy story and the answer lies close to home, as i said last night. >> another question i have, there are six people in the home. are there not? and nobody heard anything? this is a mobile home, okay. it's not that big. it's about 12 x 40. there's the mother, the mother's boyfriend is slung up in there. the mother's sister, who is shaniya's aunt. there is shaniya, her older brother, age 7, and an infant. that makes six. in a 12 by

marc klaas, i've just been sick about this story, physically sick. weigh in. >> well, i think we have to be clear. this woman pimped her child. that's what she did. she sold her child into prostitution. there is no punishment great enough to meet the crimes that she has committed. really the moral crimes that she's committed and the legal crimes that she's committed. however, shaniya is really the tip of the iceberg, nancy. the department of justice estimates there are between 200,000 and 300,000 american children that are victims of human trafficking. and in each one of those cases there is a pimp that is out there exploiting those children. now, the united states does take this issue very seriously, but relatively few resources are directed towards the domestic side of the issue. almost all of the money that is -- and it's a huge amount of money. almost all of the money that the united states invests in human trafficking is invested in the global issue. and that's based on the theory that the united states was only a source of -- or was only a dest

out to marc klaas. he is the president and founder of klaaskids foundation.hy is it that when we have a so-called parental abduction it's taken less seriously than stranger on stranger abductions? >> well, it's not really taken less seriously, but it's thought that the children are not in nearly as much danger as they are in a stranger predatory type of a situation. but i have to say, nancy, that if this woman was violently beaten at 11:00 in the morning it makes no sense that they would wait almost six hours before activating the amber alert. that tells me it's a failed alert for the simple reason that children who are murdered as a result of an abduction, 76.2% of them will be dead within the first three hours. this should have been called immediately. >> how does that break down to parental abductions? same stats apply? >> yes. absolutely. children that are murdered as a result of an abduction. that's across the board. >> and you know what else, marc, at some point the kidnapper, if he believes that cops are on to him, could very well kill himself and the

marc klaas, it's not fitting together for me.eigh in. >> well, first of all, nancy, i think it's remarkable that the name of the parents have not been released. >> i don't understand that. why would you not release the name of the parents? i mean, when your polly went missing, you were practically lying on the courthouse and police station steps going please, polygraph me, take me dna, check my car, check my body, anything, just go look for who took polly. these parents' names are being kept secret? >> well, and it's beyond that, really. because i think another huge gap in this story is the fact that the parents have not made any personal appeals. i really believe that this story is going to be solved or this case will be solved close to home rather than far away from home. i think that the huge challenge that exists right now is in finding the little baby. i can tell you that the klaas kids search team is involved in this particular search. and they are faced with a remarkable set of challenges. it's a very densely populated --

i want to go to special guest marc klaas. president and founder klaaskids foundation. marc, our worst fears have been confirmed tonight. >> they certainly have, nancy. and i think the question i have. well it's not even a question. listen forecast fundamental duty of government is public safety, then government has failed the citizens of north carolina. mario mcneill has a heinous, vial and violent criminal history that extends back to the new millennium and yet she was allowed on the streets of what is called unsupervised probation. now, the state's spokesman say, well, he's fulfilled his obligation to the state. he's been a good prisoner. but the reality is that the state has failed in its obligation to the citizens of north carolina and more specifically to the davis family and shaniya davis. in california we have a very controversial law called the three strikes law that draws a line in the sand. and it says that if you cannot abide by the rules of government of law, then you will spend the rest of your life in prison. and that's where this guy should had been a lon

i want to go to special guest marc klaas. president and founder of klaas kids foundation. marc, our worst fears have been confirmed tonight. >> they certainly have, nancy. and i think the question i have. well it's not even a question. listen, if the fundamental duty of government is public safety, then government has failed the citizens of north carolina. mario mcneill has a heinous, vile and violent criminal history that extends back to the new millennium, and yet he was allowed on the streets of what is called unsupervised probation. now, the state's spokesman say, well, he's fulfilled his obligation to the state. he's been a good prisoner. but the reality is that the state has failed in its obligation to the citizens of north carolina and more specifically to the davis family and shaniya davis. in california we have a very controversial law called the three strikes law that draws a line in the sand. and it says that if you cannot abide by the rules of government of law, then you will spend the rest of your life in prison. and that's where this guy should have been a lon