let's bring in marc lasry. great to see you. >> as recently where you said rates will come down in the next six months, mark my words. within six months rates will start coming down. they've been going up. you think the fed is going to cut? we're going to have a recession? what's your view >> it will happen in six months. the fed has to cut what was the fed worrying about? inflation. that worry is going down now what are you worried about recession. that's all everybody is talking about, how bad is the economy, what's happening on the real estate side? the fed will lower rates they may raise a little more at the next meeting from that moment on, it's going to be flat or coming down. you can't keep raising rates >> do you think there's going to be a recession you said you thought it was all but guaranteed do you still >> i think i'm more nervous about what's going on because of what's happening on the real estate side. i think you'll have a bit of a recession. i don't think it's long term i think it's short term

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. >>> i hope you join me at 3:00 we have marc lasry on.bringing a special guest with him, too. i'm not going to tell you who it is it may have something to do with the milwaukee bucks. i'm just going to say that hope you'll join me there. can't wait for that show let's to "final trades." brynn, you first >> money markets maybe get some fireworks with the debt ceiling keep your powder fry for next week >> josh brown? >> happy new 52-week high to crowd strike earnings coming up in a few days >> thank you farmer jim >> thermo fisher high quality health care company. this is a good entry point >> talked about that yesterday with carrie, i think it was. jason? >> i like crn, heading into earnings next week we'll see. >> might hear a little something about ai we'll see. all right, everybody see you on "closing bell." that does it for us. "the exchange" begins right now. ♪ ♪ >>> thank you, scott welcome to "the exchange," everybody. i'm kelly evans. here's what's ahead. a blow to america's aaa status as debt ceiling talks go on, and while stocks