morial, what would dr. king think of the state of black america now? marc: i think martin luther king would have a lot to say about the progress that's been made in terms of elected officials, in terms of politics, in terms of the growth of the nation in the african-american community. but he'd be very, very disappointed with the poverty, with the violence, with the continued strife on a global scale. what i hope people in 2018 will understand when they think about the 50th, 50 years since his assassination, is they will remember his last campaign, which was a poor people's campaign for economic justice and economic rights, and recognize that that is the challenge of the modern civil rights and social justice movement. one of our current challenges is not only to protect the vote, not only to deal with issues like mass incarceration, but to understand all of those issues in the lens of helping people achieve economic parity in this country. rosemary: joining the discussion now is pastor kevin johnson from dare to imagine church in philadelphia. allison gree

rosemary: so, we're going to pose the same question to you as we did to marc morial. what does dr. king's i have a dream speech mean in 2018? are his dreams realized? have politics put them on hold? we'll start with you, pastor. kevin: well, when i think about dr. king's legacy and i have a dream, this is the 55th anniversary of that speech. and of course, it was a great speech there in washington d.c. of course, we've made some advances when you look at how african-americans are moving forward, particular in the culture as far as in the corporate sector. but also, there's still a lot more that needs to be done. there's also the presidency of philadelphia oic. i see so many needs that are out there. i see the people who are hurting. i see the illiteracy that is still there. and so, while on the one hand we have advanced from a corporate standpoint, from a community and economic standpoint, particularly in philadelphia, there's still a lot more work that needs to be done. rosemary: pastor speaks to the corporate inclusion. and that's where you come in, allison. allison green: yes.

two things they want to say about this, because former national leader marc morial hit it out of thek, the issues around inclusion and inequality ought not be a program, but a value. values that every mayor no matter the city they live in must consider when making policy decisions. first and foremost. so i think that sometimes we forget that, and i have to admit that as i was bringing the city out of the recession and return it to economic stability, toez -- those are values that we should never forget but yet, we did. for example, what impact do certain development decisions that mark pointed out have on minority communities or communities that are struggling andg the economic margins communities perennially overlooked or neglected? if we go to improve the infrastructure and the rec centers and the parks, and those have not only great, and great amenities, but implications that we must measure the implications in terms of now we are working to improve the neighborhoods, and what does it mean in terms of the desirability of the people wanting to move into the neighborhoods, and ultim

i am proud of the work with the essence festival in new orleans with then found iing mayor marc morialt was an idea to celebrate the 25th anniversary of "essence" and make it an annual event that became the largest event in the country attracting 500,000 people. and then, when we faced our, you know, the real point of decision with the tragedy of hurricane a katri katrina, mayor landrieu rebuilt the festival in new orleans and now it drives $250 million annually. that is economic empowerment. it is a great time, but it is an opportunity to ohave a discussion with women and families about how they can be included in the growth within the community and be economically empowered. so that is a -- it san opportunity for us to now to show how women can win and how families can win, and we are doing it in new orleans, but we want to do it all over this country. women of color, the fastest color of entrepreneurs have the highest rate of labor parti participation, and vote at the highest levels and want to do more and earn more and are ready to lead. so i will be here after the conference, beca

just selling it to reverend jackson, marc morial and all those people, it was tough but they had so muchespect because he was willing to come to the table. >> mary, you are a senior -- were a senior adviser in the clinton white house and part of that was getting things done. so tell us how you thought about , that and how that worked, taking this vision. >> if i told you, i would have to kill you. [laughter] >> pullback for one second. professor bring we said he was a centrist. biggest points i would make, president clinton redefined the debate not about left versus right, but going forward instead of going backward. you have to go back to the context of 1992. the president biggest contribution, he took a lot of ideas from the political spectrum. it wasn't that he was a centrist, he reframed the debate about whether were going forward or going back. as you have come up against the 21st century, it's a perfect metaphor to making sure, as he would say in the reelect, everybody is going to go over the bridge into the 21st century. he readreframed the brain-dead policy of all parties. big de