i am proud to be a cop. >> martha: joining me now, marc thiessen, scholar and cohost of the americanute podcast. and richard fowler, national podcast host. both are fox news contributor's, gentlemen, thank you for being here. richard, let me start with you coming your reaction to -- good to see you, your reaction to the police union had michael o'meara's very impassioned statement about his profession and the way that he approaches his work on the way that he believes 99% of cops do as well. >> i also got a chance to listen to the entire interview, and i am happy that he is willing to work with people in the community, talking about how we need change. we saw that was introduced this week by the black caucus is just that. can we work together to abandon the toe hold that killed eric gardner and killed george floyd. let's be very real here, police department have n no more responsibility. when you get a badge and you are paid by taxpayers to serve the community, you are given a gun to serve the community, you should be given more responsibility. you should be given more accountability

marc thiessen, $100 and should. >> i'm with him.or his candidate, $30 val demings, 30 kamala harris, and 20 on susan rice. the problems with stacey abrams she is qualified to be commander in chief. susan rice on paper, african-american woman and national security advisor could step into the job. i think that is attractive. >> bret: all right, panel, winners and losers next week. i give the extra time to shelby steele tonight. we appreciate it and when we come back effortless is the lincoln way. so as you head back out on the road, we'll be doing what we do best. providing some calm amidst the chaos. with virtual, real-time tours of our vehicles as well as remote purchasing. for a little help, on and off the road. now when you buy or lease a new lincoln, we'll make up to 3 payments on your behalf. now every bath fitter bathbath fis installed quickly, now when you buy or lease a new lincoln, safely, and beautifully, with a lifetime warranty. go from old to new. from worn to wow. the beautiful bath you've always wanted, done right, ins

marc thiessen, thank you. >> thank you. back to that story we told you about. an executive order that will pause many work visas for the remainder of the calendar year. kristin fisher reporting live from the white house with that. >> this executive order is going to be an extension of the restrictions that were put in place back in april during the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic. it's going to likely extend them all the way through the end of the year. i wanted to walk you through what some of these restrictions are going to look like for h1v visas, it will restrict the visas and those are the visas for skilled workers, especially in the tech industry. it will also involve visas for seasonal workers, l1, executives to work for large corporations, and finally jay one, cultural and research exchange programs. right before that valley on saturday, president trump gave an interview to john roberts and said that there were going to be some exclusions, but not many. we now know that one of the exclusions is going to apply for workers and the food industry. the

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mo elleithee is back with us, so is marc thiessen.and you have to get tough, you are weak. you need to take control of what is happening in your cities across the country. go ahead. >> no one likes seeing these lawless sets of violence. and rioting, and they need to be prosecuted 100%, in a moment like this we really do need some national leadership that empathizes with the legitimate protesters that marc was talking about earlier and gets tough on the people that are demeaning the memory of george floyd by rioting and looting. we are not getting the first part from the president. with using language like "you've got to dominate them," you are upping the anxiety in the streets. it's that mentality that led to george floyd's death in the first place. the mentality of authority is dominating is what led to the system that allowed for a police officer to place his knee on a man's neck for 9 minutes and squeeze the life out of him. so i am all for getting tough on the people -- >> bill: right, but you have three other police officers on s

former spokesman for hillary clinton's campaign and marc thiessen, former white house speechwriter.s monday. nice to see you both. i was listening to the gentleman with chris wallace on sunday, i know where he's coming from but i don't know what he was asking for. the one thing he did say is that politicians, republican and democrat have failed in the cities. >> i think there is a real movement out there right now to figure out one after the horrific death of george floyd and others, how to reform our police so that we can finally put an end to the police brutality we have seen. i think there is also a very real desire out there that is spurring these protest to look at some of the underlying conditions that are holding certain communities back. whether it is the inequities we are seeing in health care. the inequities we are seeing an economic opportunity. and yes in criminal justice. that's what spurring a lot of the protesters. i didn't say the writers, the looters. those people are being motivated by -- >> bill: the protesters are looking for policies. to our viewers, it's a covi

marc thiessen is a spokesman for president george w. bush.tributor. >> try to make sense of what the president is really saying here about the possibility of using the military, our own jennifer griffin breaking some news a few moments ago that general milley is not and it seems to contradict. what does this really need to make meaning? >> i think people are losing all perspective. he's talking about invoking the resurrection act which is a law that allows a president of the united states to federalize the national guard and use the act which is a law that prohibits using the military domestically and allows them to use the army to quell insurrections and protests. as has been a law that has been used by presidents thomas jefferson, grover grover cleveland, dwight eisenhower and lyndon johnson. in 1992 george h.w. bush used it during the los angeles riots over the rodney king beating. president john f. kennedy used the law twice, in 1962 at the university of mississippi when james meredith was becoming the first african-american there, andy k

marc thiessen of enterprise institutes, fox news correspondent gillian turner and mo elleithee of georgetowninstitute of politics and public service. marc: the chris: marc, biden's lead is growing. let's take a look at some of the numbers. nationally fox news has biden up by 12 points. "the new york times" has him leading by 14 and then there's florida which is i think we'd all agree a must-win for the president. fox news has biden up by 9, the times has biden leading by 6. marc, we all know a lot can change in 4 plus months between now and the election but why do you think, i mean, you laugh. the president is trailing and in fact, biden's lead is growing. marc: it is, it's not good for the president and sometimes the president is his own worst enemy in fueling these polls but before my friend mo and democratic friends get too excited about the numbers, 3 reasons why the president might be in better shape than we think. first of all as you said, chris, four months to go. you think of what has happened in the last four months, worst pandemic since 1918 and worst social unrest since 1960's all

and marc thiessen, a former speechwriter. let's take what time we can h e here. how does this go?? what is your sense? >> you know how joe biden said police ought to shoot somebody in the leg? the democrats are shooting themselves in the foot, this is an insane approach to the 2020 election. if joe biden and the democrats run on defunding the police and the president runs on law and order, democrats lose. how does this play with suburban woman after 2018 when they gave them the majority and they need them in 2020? suburban women are not going to go for defunding the place. >> bill: a fair point. let's go to your partner. mo, what do you think about the point he's making? >> joe biden just put out a statement saying he opposed the movement to defund the police. i think the images that we saw, not just with george floyd's tragic death but with some of the police activity during the protests is has led to a natural conversation about how do we reform our police system. that is a legitimate conversation. are there ways to direct more funding to community programs that could address th

also joining me, juan williams, marc thiessen, and captain ron johnson.rey gowdy is on deck for the clash over the potential use of the united states military but first we start with the white house correspondent kevin corke, not far from lafayette square park where we saw so much activity last night. hi, kevin. >> evening, martha. as you can imagine, you figured we have a crowd out here beyond the curfew and we have quite the crowd beyond the curfew here at the nation's capital, you've heard chants of "no justice, no peace," "justice for george lloyd" and "forget your curfew" only they didn't use the word "forget." thus far it's been mostly peaceful but now is the curfew happens at the top of the hour, the questions remain, what will law enforcement do. if last night as any template, they will be moving this crowd eventually right back up 16th street. thus far it hasn't happened. we are just outside of lafayette park. as you can just see there, sanford is taking a look at the crowd here, it is a massive crowd. i walk here from logan circle and about two

marc thiessen, julian turner and mo elleithee of georgetown institute of politics and public service.he latest polls, a number of them showing president trump is trailing joe biden badly and biden's lead is growing. let's look at the numbers. nationally fox news has biden up by 12-point, the new york times has him leading by 14, then there is florida which i think we would all agree on must win for the president, fox news has biden up by nine, the times has biden leading by six. marc, we all know a lot can change in four plus months between now and the election, but what do you think, you laugh, the president is trailing and in fact biden's lead is growing. marc: it is not good for the president, sometimes a president is his own worst enemy and fueling the polls. before my friend moe and my democratic friends get too excited about these numbers, three reasons why the president might be in better shape than we think. first of all, four months to go if you think about what happened in the last four months with the worst pandemic since 1918 and the worst economic devastation since 1930 a

talk to him towards the later of the show, but we begin with aei scholar and fox news contributor marc thiessen, charlie kirk charlie kirk and syndicated radio host and fox news contributor richard fowler on the state of the race with 130 days left to go. you must forget that we are in the middle of a very tight presidential election with everything else that is going on in america right now. i want to put up the quote from "the new york times" siena college survey, this is trump losing among white voters, the once advantage has now vanished precluding the reelection if it persists. a 21. lead with white college graduates coming in the president losing among white voters in three northern battleground states. not by much, but he won by nearly ten points in 2016. charlie, do you want to jump off on that? what is your reaction? >> first of all i am very careful taking it at face value, but let's pretend that they are in the margin of error, what president would be in a desirable situation over the last couple of months? you had a pandemic once in a century event. >> martha: we hope. >> a lockdown

let's bring in marc thiessen, former speechwriter for president george w. bush. to go back to john's original point, about the debate itself, to defund the police, it means different things to different people and we are starting to hear about it. we just heard from joe biden and where he stands on the issue. as john ended we are in an election year. what does it mean, what implications does it have? >> first of all, if this becomes an election between donald trump standing for law and order, then donald trump wins. joe biden is trying to manage the issue but the problem is, his basic, he's going against the will of his base which is defunding the police. also what happens when the minneapolis mayor tries to go to the george floyd protests in make common calls, and this is what the democratic base wants. joe biden will have a real hard time managing. >> sandra: the wall street editorial board takes the debate on this morning. titled "defund police, watch a crying return." joe biden says he opposes defunding the police and good for him but law enforcement it's a s

push forward and run through the administrative procedure act hoops that the supreme court has marc thiessenously saying that he needs to comply with, i don't think that's a very good decision on their part. but as a practical matter, everybody knows what has to happen here is daca has to be part of a package that has some relief for some categories of illegal aliens and some border enforcement and immigration enforcement for the president. until we get a wave of adulthood come over washington, which we probably shouldn't hold our breath for that, i don't really see this being resolved. >> ed: a wave of adulthood, an interesting idea. appreciate your thoughts. have a great weekend, happy father's day. >> you too, add. thank you. >> sandra: fox news alert now, a historic hotel goes up in flames in the new orleans french quarter so what caused that fire? manzo, president trump touting the success of the small business loan program. what it means for the u.s. economy going forward. plus, could american families end up seeing a second round of stimulus checks? >> small businesses across the nati