and so this was-- these were the people who were influencing me-- as well as marcel duchamp and others. is there a--an impulse, when you've-- when you find a reaction in what is-- what some people view as--as shocking, and you didn't intend to shock, is there an impulse to replicate that or to avoid it? you know, basically, i do both but not intentionally. i'm aware that when i go in the studio when i do my work, you know, it comes from within. i forget about the critics, the audience, the fans, the detractors, the collectors. i forget about everything, everyone, you know, and i just listen to what is inside of me that i need to do. you do that when you work, but a lot of the controversy of your work stems from the titles that you give the work. so if someone were to have seen piss christ or see any of the works-- "piss satan," or any of the other works that you've made-- without a title, they wouldn't know how to grasp an intention. how important is it to you and how do you do that? well, not only wouldn't they know how to grasp an intention, they wouldn't even know what they were loo