marcia clark was the prosecutor in the simpson trial and is the author now of the novel "guilt by association she joins us. and back with us our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. marcia, no stranger to controversial verdicts. you think this one even more shocking than the simpson verdict. why? >> well, i do. i do. because in the simpson case we began with someone who was a nationally-recognized football star, a star of television and the big screen in "naked gun." people already had an opinion of what they thought of him. and it certainly wasn't murderer. and there was also of course the rodney king trial which polarized racial attitudes in the -- especially in los angeles. so we came into it with a whole lot of attitudes that had nothing to do with the evidence and had everything to do with how people felt about this particular defendant. and that was all brought to bear in the trial as a result of that and from the very beginning of the case and all the way through there were many who understood and believed that there would be no way to secure a conviction. in this case, casey anthony,

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it was badly tried. >> marcia clark, badly tried? do you agree with that? >> no, i don't. that, you know, whether or not they should have asked for the death penalty, that's a whole separate question. i don't want to go there right now because we could go there for hours. but in terms of trying the case, yes, they proved it. i mean, this is a circumstantial evidence case, of course it is. they didn't have the physical evidence that we did in the simpson case, but don't forget, in the simpson case, there was abundant dna, but no one believed it at the time. it was 16 years ago. there were a lot of questions about the evidence collection. in my rebuttal argument, i had to get up and tell the jury forget about the dna. look at the circumstantial evidence we have. by the way, that was enough to convict him ten times. they had enough to convict her here. they certainly had enough to say there was a homicide committed and that casey anthony was the one who committed it, the question being what she did, not whether she did it, in my opinion. and to say that no one will ever know

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. >> reporter: marcia clark prosecuted o.j. simpson for murder and lost. >> no prosecution can ever answer all the questions. no prosecution can ever resolve all possible doubts. that's why we have a standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. but if a jury is simply looking for a reason, a reason to doubt, they will always find one. >> beyond a reasonable doubt is like swiss cheese. there's holes everywhere. there's big p pces missing. there's gaps. >> reporter: jennifer ford, injure numb juror number 3 in the trial, told us all the evidence prosecutors said point to guilt could have pointed another way, too. >> every expert, like, with anything, i could have been what the prosecution said, it could be the defense. if it's both, it could not be proven. >> there's a disconnect. because people outside see the trial on television. they think of it as reality telelesion. and on television, there's always a result. if this person isn't guilty, someone else is. in real life, we may never know what happened. we may end up with uncertainty

marcia clark as well. let us know what you think. of course, we're on facebook and you can follow me on twitter @anderson cooper. tonight the hatred being directed towards casey anthony outside the courthouse and online. we'll also be joined by the attorney for casey anthony's parent, george and cindy, who were in the courtroom today and on tuesday, of course, for the verdict. a prosecutor saying cindy anthony could be facing perjury charges for her testimony. later both sides may still be far apart on a deal to let the government pay off its bills. but washington insiders say all sides expect a budget deal. but if that's the case why did they wait until the very end to get there? we have the raw politics and what's going on in d.c. ♪ ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ my only sunshine ♪ you makes me happy ♪ when skies are grey ♪ you'll never know, dear ♪ how much i love you ♪ please don't take my sunshine away ♪ [ male announcer ] as long as there are babies, they'll be chevy's to bring them home. ♪ with new extra-strength bayer advanced aspir

. >> marcia clark says this was worse than o.j. i. of course she did -- she lost! [laughter] >> all right. that's it. both of these people -- casey and o.j -- are innocent. >> yes, in the eyes of the law. >> so let's treat them as such when we see them on the street. >> guilty under god. >> coming up, are people clogging up our sidewalks and parks? hey, ugly people, get off the street, you are nothing but a waste of space. >> i think you used that last time. >> wait a second, are those porn sites? a story with pornography much like these... @@ >> he's suing the state over his right to masturbate. it's the story we tried not to do until we stopped trying not to do it. the michigan inmate -- >> oh, is that what this is? >> oartion, my god, no. [laughter] >> this poor kid is suing the governor on the prison ban on porn, claiming she is being subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. in the five-page handwritten lawsuit, kyle richards wrote that the ban on smut has been used as a method of psychological warfare to destroy the morale of inmates and break the spirit of

marcia clark came out this morning on the prosecution side of the o.j. case and said this verdict is far more shocking. as somebody who worked on the o.j. case, where do you stand on the comparisons? >> well, i understand the verdict. but it probably was based on three reasons. the foundation of any murder case is typically finding a cause of death and a manner of death. and here there was no real hard evidence to prove those two points which made it very difficult for the second point and that was the decision of the prosecution to charge this as a first-degree murder case, a death penalty case. so the jurors had to be comfortable about their decision, given this was the most serious sanction that could be imposed. >> were you shocked by this verdict? were you shocked by it? >> oh, i was surprised like much of america. but i wasn't there, like the jury was, to listen to all the questions and all the answers and to examine all the evidence. so it's hard for me to second-guess what the jury decided to do. >> meg, let me bring new here. so there's the real

simpson case wrote about the verdict, marcia clark.se attorney will do his or her best to give a jury a reason to doubt. some other dude did it. those reasons don't equate with a reasonable doubt. a reason doesn't doesn't equal reasonable. holly, do you agree with that? >> 100%. absolutely. >> all right. that's it. it's done. let's go overseas and talk about "news of the world" in london. hugely popular so that they were tapping people's phones. rupert murdoch shut it don't. does he have a lot of exposure here? >> huge. >> monetary? >> monetary. some of his editors are looking at criminal charges. a corporation can be charged with murder and manslaughter. it's happened in the united states and united kingdom. when you think about what really happen it's so shocking to the conscience, so offensive. they are alleged to have hacked into a missing girl, 13-year-old girl's cell phone voice box while she was still missing. they were deleting messages to make room for more voice males to come in. the police officers and that little girl still

trial the dancing itos with special guest marcia clark, ladies and gentlemen. >> bill: those were the days. both got them right. here is the easiest question of the five. we throw this in braw because e want everybody to feel good. if you don't get this correct, not good. o.j. simpson captivated the nation with the low speed chase in a white board bronco. >> just throw it out the window. we will let you go out there. just throw it out the window, please, you are scaring everybody. think of your kids. >> i'm not going to hurt anybody. >> i know you're not going to hurt anybody. >> tell them i'm all sorry. >> who was driving that bronco? a, kato kay lin. >> who was driving the vehicle? >> cards up, please. and that is correct, al cowlings. >> yog the memory a bit. >> tied at two. before he ordered his followers to dmit murder, charles manson was a wannabe song writer and member of the california music scene. for a period in 968 he lived in the house with the drummer from what band. >> what band that was? roll the tape. ♪ good, good, good, good vibration ♪ >> bill: you both were right, d

simpson prosecutor marcia clark. we'll ask the anthony's attorney paul lipman. was held at the white house to reach a compromise. we'll have the latest in the very public battle in the private behind the scenes negotiations. those stories and tonight's ridiculist at the top of the hour. more piers morgan in a moment. [ male announcer ] introducing the ultimate business phone -- t the motorola expert from sprint. its powerful tools help you work faster and smarter so you can get back to playing "angry birds." it lets you access business forms on the go, fire off e-mails with the qwerty keypad, and work securely around the world so you can get back to playing "angry birds." it's the android-powered phone that mixes business with pleasure. so let's get our work done, america, so we can all get back to playing "angry birds." the motorola expert from sprint. trouble hearing on the phone? visit sprintrelay.com. >>> casey anthony, the most notorious woman in america right now. she's free from prison in less than a week. but what happens when she returns to her communit

. >>> the shock and the smile and marcia clark on the csi factor. >> the lack of dna makes it difficult plus, hollywood's outrage, and who will get casey ace first interview. >>> then -- >> around, are you saddened about maria filing for divorce? >> >> schwarzenegger without his family. >> divorce papers without a

in los angeles, marcia clark, who was lead prosecutor in the o.j.morning again. >> good morning. >> star, let me start with what may be confusing to some of our viewer. as we know, casey anthony was sentenced to time served for a check fraud conviction a year and a half of her -- total three years in jail. >> a couple of check fraud convictions. there were three charges. >> some are wondering if the judge is saying she possibly's out by july or august, it sounds like he's crediting time served against these lying to officers convictions as well as the check fraud. explain that. >> i think that all of the charges were pending at the same time. casey anthony selected three charges to plead guilty to before and left the last charges for the rest of the indictment, which is what we just finished the trial. i think the judge is rightfully saying that that part of the indictment may have been served but it does still count towards the time. we're not sure how the calculations are going to work out. did make it a bit confusing. with good time and whatever

. >>> marcia clark, the prosecutor in the o.j.pson trial, author of "guilt by association," star jones and savannah guthrie, good morning. savannah we've been talking the last couple days, you're walking around doing calculations in your head all the time. >> trying to do calculations. >> how did they reach the final time line for the release? >> the department of corrections knows how exactly they got from this four-year sentence. calculated about three years' time served, added in good time and what's called in florida gain time behavior of about ten days a month. but actually no matter how you crunch the numbers, it is hard to get exactly the math that they apparently got. and it is evidenced by the fact they've changed the date overnight, instead of being released wednesday she'll be released the following sunday. it shows there's a little bit of mystery to exactly how they did this calculation. the bottom line is she served three years of a sentence and did get good time behavior. >> marcia, take us into the jury room as we l

prosecutor marcia clark thinks about this case.o know what you think about the fact that that dahl hasan will face the death penalty in the fort hood kill is. a warning about human bombs on u.s. airlines. we'll talk about that. michael rage fan is here with his thoughts on mitt romney. he has an interesting take on mitt romney in new hampshire. that is coming up at the top of the hour on "america live". we'll see you then. jon: "happening now", new developments in the sexual assault case against dominique strauss-kahn. attorneys for the former head of the international monetary fund meeting with prosecutors in manhattan in what many legal observers say will lead to the charges being absolutely dropped. if so, it would cap a stunning reversal of fortune for a man many saw as potentially france's next president. fox's, fox business network's adam shapiro joins us live from the district attorney's office in lower manhattan. where does it stand now, adam? >> reporter: well they are still negotiating. i should point out we did speak wit

you had the fact that he was a celebrity and then she goes on to write, marcia clark in "the daily beast" there were no bombshells that blew up in the prosecution's face like the mark fuhrman thing at the last minute and also all the collection questions about how stuff against o.j. was collected. it just seems like that this jury needed absolute certitude to convict her of anything. they had a whole list of things they could have convicted her. they wanted evidence. reasonable doubt became absolute certitude they didn't get that. they went with not guilty. not guilty. not guilty. >> we'll be talking with the prosecutor in that kcase, he'll be joining "fox & friends" at 6:50 a.m. eastern time. keep in mind that he submitted his resignation before the verdict came in. >> yep. >> in the meantime, cassy anthony is revealing some jailhouse letters that are very interesting because she apparently writing to another inmate saying she wants more children. she said to this inmate maybe we could plan the pregnancies at the same time. she wants to do a book deal, a combination of speaking about go