back with our panel, sunny hostin, mark geragos, jeffrey toobin, marcia clark. how did this play a part? >> it is interesting to me in the courtroom, didn't seem to play a part in opening statements. race was not mentioned once. we did hear the word profile, which many would say is code for racial profiling, but when john guy, the prosecutor, discussed this case, he did not mention race, he only mentioned profiling in the sense of he profiled trayvon martin as someone who was about to commit a crime in the neighborhood. i thought it was fascinating. i think we can all agree race is sort of the elephant in the room, that it appears no one is going to talk about. >> that was because the judge, marsha, was saying you can't use the term racial profiling, you can use the word profiling, correct? >> exactly, anderson. everybody knows when you say profiling, what comes before it. it is the silent k in know. that's what it is. you can pretend it is not there, don't have to say the word or say the word race, we're all going to know what it is about. when he says profilin

marcia clark, deputy district attorney and author, her latest thriller, killer ambition. sonny, you were in the courtroom, the knock knock joke, how damaging do you think it was. a defense attney normally doesn't apologize to the jury, especially on the first day. >> you know, i looked at the jury because i was so surprised at this joke. they seemed offended to me and it was painful for me to listen to. not only as someone covering the trial but as someone who has tried cases and given opening statements, some of them go better than others, but this was just so very painful. i will tell you, it wasn't just the delivery of the knock knock joke which didn't make sense, it was a rambling presentation. he seemed to break all the rules of opening statement, it wasn't schematic, it was rambling. it didn't make sense to me. >> mark, you think it is much ado about nothing. what do you make of this three hour opening statement by the defense, where the prosecution had 30 minutes opening statement? >> look, i have to tell you having tried quite a few cases that the idea that someho

joining me now is former prosecutor marcia clark and author of "killer ambition." anticipation for the openings of this trial. what did you make of the opening statements? >> both sides delivered their strongest punch. the prosecution came out swinging by quoting from george zimmerman's 911 tapes, and the language that he used, i can't use it on the air, but f-ing, a-holes, is that close enough? i don't know if that was safe, indicating a mind-set by george zimmerman showing that he was already inclined to think the worst of trayvon martin from the first time he saw him and called the police. on the other hand, the defense was able to bring out and did bring out in great detail the manner which george zimmerman suffered injuries and the fact that it was possible that the voice we heard on the 911 tape screaming for help could have been george zimmerman's given the nature of the injuries that we eventually saw. so both sides came out swinging with their most strong points. and even though the defense did unfortunately tell a knock knock joke in the beginning that fe

let's dig doper with mark geragos and joining me is marcia clark, author of "killer ambition." marcia, you say you can see both sides want a jury made up of both women? >> there is something in it for both sides when women are involved. from the prosecution's side, women, especially mothers and five of the six are pots, are going to, the hope is they will feel somewhat invested in trayvon martin as someone who could have been their son out there that night. by conversely, from the defense point of view, they like the idea of women, especially bill who have had guns in their lives, in their family. they are more likely to identify with the fear in a neighborhood that has been burglarized and feel like george zimmerman is kind of a protector of there's. so appreciate what he was to trying to do. so women actually have something to give for both sides of this lawsuit at the end of the day, i am not surprised to see it was an all demail jury. >> what do you think? i heard people say most of these five out of six are mom, they might be more sympathetic to trayvon martin. >> right. an

marcia clark, and on the defense side, we have danny savalos and mark geragos. so mark, the key eyewitness today was called by the prosecution, but his testimony seemed critical for zimmerman's defense. what impact do you think he had on the jury? >> i'm astonished that they would have put him in there. maybe the prosecution figured don't let the defense call him, so put him out there first to deflect from having the defense have some powerful witness. i don't understand how this witness was anything but somebody who was positive for the defense. >> sunny, do you agree with that? he seems to be the star really for the defense, but he was put on by the prosecution. >> yeah, no, i do agree with that. as a prosecutor, you can't hide from the facts of your case and you certainly can't let the jury believe that you're hiding the facts of your case. so you put that type of witness on and you try to frame the narrative. but we all knew going into this, if you looked at the diskovry, this is what the testimony was going to be coming from john good. i suspect that they s

joining me now is former prosecutor mar marcia clark, color of "killer ambition." er criminal prosecutor faith jenkins. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> marcia, the hearing over the analysis of the 911 call has stretched over several days. how crucial is this to both sides? >> oh, it's critical. it's critical. if they get this admitted, the prosecution gets this admitted, it's going to be really damning evidence, because it will establish that the aggressor was zimmerman and not trayvon martin. on the other hand, if it doesn't come in, it will be a big loss to the prosecution. there is no question. this is a very big deal. i'd be surprised, though, if the judge keeps it out. >> faith, the fact is we know that they're going to play the tape. >> that's right. >> the question is whether they're going to have the expert witness. and without the expert witness, will the jury be able to come to the conclusion that this expert witness is that this is likely trayvon martin? >> so the jurors are going to hear this tape, and they'll be able to lis

joining me now is former prosecutor and author of "killer ambition" marcia clark from california and iminal defense attorney, former prosecutor. marcia and richard thanks for being with us this evening. marcia, the prosecution has to prove that zimmerman was not defending himself bust trayvon is dead. how do we know? can we ever get a complete story here? >> you know, i don't think that you ever well and that's really very common in criminal trials. you have one party to the action is deceased and can't tell his side of the story. but we put together as much as we can and hope that all of the big pieces are in the correct places. in this case we have a lot of back and forth. at this point there's some evidence now that there may have been a valid claim of self-defense. there's evidence however that george zimmerman was the aggressor. we're about halfway through the prosecution's case or maybe a little bit more. we do have to hear from the coroner. the autopsy will be important to show what kind of injuries trayvon martin had. the angle of the bullet. the trajectory of the bullet. we h

joining me is author "killer ambition," marcia clarke and richard portelli a former prosecutor.s for being with us this evening. the prosecution has to prove that zimmerman was not defending himself but trayvon is dead. how do we know? can we get a complete story here? >> i don't think that you ever will. that is very common in criminal trials. you have one party to the action and is deceased. but we put together as much at we can and hope that all the big pieces are in the correct places. we have a lot of back and forth. at this point there is some evidence there may have been valid claim of self-defense but there is evidence that george zimmerman was the aggressor. we're halfway through the case. we do have to hear from the coroner. autopsy will be extremely important to show what kind of defensive wounds trayvon martin may have had. trajectory of the bullet. we have a lot more to go. >> judge jeanine: as marsha says. there has been a lot of testimony, testimony regarding the blood on zimmerman. is there any clear picture of yet what happened? >> i think it's very clear pictur

>> with me again is sunny hostin, marcia clark, danny savalos and mark geragos.t want to first of all go over for each of you, i want to ask the same question, what do you think from the last -- from this week has been the key testimony, the most important moment of this week? and then i want to look forward to next week. mark, what do you think stands out to you this week? >> today's testimony. i think that the positioning at this point with trayvon martin on top, i think that that cements the idea that george zimmerman is not going to take the stand, if there was anybody out there who thought there was a snowball's chance that he would. i think that that is the thing the jurors will go off on their weekend sequestration and think about. >> why does that tell you zimmerman doesn't take the stand? why does that cement it for you? >> because the only reason you would ever put him on the stand is if you thought there was even the smallest chance he wasn't going to get a self-defense instruction. a lot of judges can be tough when you request the instruction if the d

molly has the latest in marcia clark. >> hi, heather and kelly. the u.s. charged edward snowden with and extradite him yet. he checked out of a hotel on june 10. hong kong is controlled by china. one expert says that there is a reason why the u.s. has been reluctant to ask hong kong to go find snowden. >> not only is snowden taken into custody but phone drive and power laptops, hong kong police will see and share them with chinese intelligence. i think that maybe some of this delay and actually filing the extradition requests is we were concerned about the chinese getting the laptop. >> there are news tloorts snowden is in a police safe house. congress congress police would not comment on that. one hong kong lawmaker says that it is not a done deal that snowden will be extradited to the u.s. at some point. >> so it is the -- chinese government really wants the snowden to stay, the government can intervene but directing the chief executive not to sign an extradition order. so that will be what mr. snowden may be facing in the coming lee to even five years f