marco marco. >> erika mentioned that she wore a wire in an earlier season of the show. >> i wore a wire and was a witness in a government case. >> wow. >> why did she wear a wire? does this have anything to do with tom? we found out that it involved marcorika came in saying that i had stolen upwards of $800,000 from them. i said that that was impossible. in my mind it was obviously this is [ bleep ]. >> i was very aware of how powerful she and her husband were, and that alone is pretty terrifying. >> juju: jayne's legal team talked exclusively in the documentary saying erika had the right to go to authorities and give viewers a chance to hear why they say the reality star believed she was defrauded by pasila. >> if you have a basis for it, what they call probable cause, you're immune. >> juju: the interviews in the film and meeting with victims providing a different view and approach compared to what viewers have seen from jayne on tv so far. >> we're not even sure that there were people that weren't paid. >> no way. >> yeah way. >> you mean that there is chance -- >> there is a chance. >> they could be lying. you can allege anything in a lawsuit. >> juju: that's especially true for the victims, who finally had a chance to confront the

we set off on two motorcycles to travel from marco polo on marco polo, we start in oxford . he did. marcodid. marco polo didn't start in oxford , didn't start in oxford, obviously. he started in venice. we went to venice, we went through turkey, we through through turkey, we went through persia, we went through afghanistan. wanted get afghanistan. we wanted to get into we couldn't get into into china. we couldn't get into china. in 1961, we ran out of time. we had be in time. we had to be back in oxford. so what i did this summer, when i say this summer, i mean last summer, if you see what i mean. yes it's still this summer for me. a wonderful tv company called one tribe tv , company called one tribe tv, working together with chinese tv as well. it was a brilliant collaboration. that's why marco polo is symbolic. we set out, we flew to china, we then went by car to the very, very far west of china, up there in the himalayas. exactly. pretty much where tim severin and i left off last time round. and then we followed it on. >> and that was where marco polo entered china. pretty much. >> mar

marco, north. marco longhi. marco, welcome to the show . so marco, welcome to the show. eir starmer on his net zero flagship policy . his net zero flagship policy. >> as if we haven't seen this before, martin. i mean, it's outrageous, really. it's it's embarrassing. i have no other word to describe it. >> i don't even want to call him captain flip flop anymore . captain flip flop anymore. >> i think he's just a full fat flop. >> you know something that gets blown around? >> uh , um, by anything almost. >> uh, um, by anything almost. >> uh, um, by anything almost. >> you know, they come up with these half baked ideas at the moment . moment. >> someone starts to scrutinise these, they throw away within 48 hours or within a few months, and really, is this the way to give the impression to the rest of the country that this is how they're going to manage an economy and manage rest of economy and manage the rest of the country? economy and manage the rest of the cthinky? economy and manage the rest of the cthink not, but marco, of >> i think not, but marco, of course, sir keir

marco? >> hello. good morning. i'm marco petagna . here's your marco petagna. uth working their way south eastwards and eastwards across england and wales morning. turning wales for the morning. turning increasingly so increasingly light and patchy so not all across the far not much at all across the far south—east england south—east of england by lunchtime, towards lunchtime, whereas towards the north brighter north and west much brighter skies pushing down across all parts the afternoon. so parts into the afternoon. so a mixture sunshine some mixture of sunshine with some showers during the course showers around during the course of , then the of the afternoon, then the showers reserved the showers mainly reserved for the north—west here. blustery north—west here. quite blustery too, you are it's too, but wherever you are it's pretty for the time of pretty mild for the time of yeah pretty mild for the time of year. temperatures generally in double ten double figures in the range ten degrees up to degrees towards the north, up to 13 celsius 40 is 57 13 or 14 ce

you see marco rubio, there marco rubio down here. i'm just back from a trip to south carolina, the late nikki haley, but they love donald trump. that is her problem. >> and so what is her -- you are in south carolina, you are talking to voters as you have been for the last several weeks, what is next for her? >> again, can she pull it off here? the biggest challenge, to challenge, she has to convince a lot of people who are planning to vote for donald, trump least onto, that reconsider, i'm more electable. he has chaos. all of those things -- can she do this in the state where she was mourn when she was twice elected governor, the challenge she hasn't been on the ballot in ten years. donald trump has won south carolina three times since, that the 2016, it 20 2016 general election, 2020 general election. can she convince enough people to change their mind? or kaitlin, she says she is trying to, do get democrats and independents to flood the south carolina primary. it is mathematically possible, historically it has never happened. if y

marco . look at the weather with marco. a brighter outlook with box sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello, i'm marcoyour latest weather update from the met office. we hold on to unsettled weather across the next few across the uk over the next few days, all seeing some rain at times but staying mild for the times but staying mild for the time being. at least this weather pushed outbreaks weather fronts pushed outbreaks of the south—east of rain away from the south—east of rain away from the south—east of during course of england during the course of the afternoon. we've got the afternoon. so we've got a ridge pressure building ridge of high pressure building in west, quieting in from the west, quieting things for overnight things down for the overnight period. rains period. but further rains gathering out towards west, period. but further rains gatrthat] out towards west, period. but further rains gatrthat will towards west, period. but further rains gatrthat will move �*ds west, period. but further rains gatrthat will move in west, period. but further rains gatrthat will move in wethe and that will

ambassador in the philippines, william sullavan, he's been dealing with marcos and he's been doing a great job and everybody knows marcos is really tough dude, so let's send sullivan from the philippines to tehron, because he knows how to handle tough guys, we don't have anybody else who's as good with tough guys, so sullivan, who doesn't know anything about the middle east, who does know anything about iran, and he admits this, he wrote a book, then he says this in his book, didn't know anything about iran, he had never... served in the middle east, he had always been out there in asia, he shows up in terron. now, what was the style with which american ambassadors dealt with the shaw? this was the style, american ambassador would go to see the show once a week, there was always a fixed time for meeting, and the shaw would welcome him and the show, and they'd chat a little bit of small talk, and then the shah would say, i have come up with this brilliant plan for the future of my country, we are going to build a super highway from tehran to mashad all the way across northern tehen. and it's going to cost us such and suc

marco petagna . >> hello, i'm marco petagna.he met office . update from the met office. we'll hold on to rather mixed conditions across conditions weather wise across the the ahead. conditions weather wise across the of the ahead. conditions weather wise across the of us the ahead. conditions weather wise across the of us seeingie ahead. conditions weather wise across the of us seeingie rain ead. conditions weather wise across the of us seeingie rain ati all of us seeing some rain at times turning colder from times and turning colder from the later on. we've got the north later on. we've got a small of high pressure small ridge of high pressure moving the west tonight. moving in from the west tonight. quietening weather but quietening the weather down, but nofice quietening the weather down, but notice gathering notice weather fronts gathering out north—west out towards the north—west and they'll unsettled they'll bring further unsettled weather few weather during the next few days. we into the days. so as we go into the evening

marco pola, c- fernand magellan. time! matvey, what do you think? i am 100% sure that this is marco paul's option b, because christopher columbus discovered america, and ferdinand magellan, in my opinion, made the first trip around the world. well, what was stopping you? that he had found a route to india and was interested in precisely this; he remained in america . the correct answer is marcoe, merchants delivered silks and spices; the first european to visit china and leave a description of it was venetian merchant: mark pola. seventh question. what were the free citizens of sparta called? a. spartans. b. pereeeks. ts. helots. time. nikita, what do you think about this ? the question is complex. well, i don't remember exactly, but i... intuitively answered ts and lots, yes elizabeth, i answered b perieki, also based on my intuition, i immediately threw away the protiata, because it seemed to me that it would be too simple, uh-huh, helots, i don’t know, just right, ok, you can pereki ts, maybe someone will tell us then who the perieki are, victor, i see you know? pereeeks, personally free, but civilly unequal class of ancient sparta, as victor said, partly free, partly not, and lots, conquered by the darians. the business population of ancient sparta. and the lots were considered the property of the state and were attached to land plots owned by individual spartiates. but

marco petagna. >> hello, i'm marco petagna. here's your latest weather update from the met office.mild for the times but staying mild for the time being. at least this weather outbreaks weather fronts pushed outbreaks of from the south—east of rain away from the south—east of rain away from the south—east of during the course of england during the course of the got the afternoon. so we've got a ridge high pressure building ridge of high pressure building in from the west quietening things the overnight things down for the overnight period, rains period, but further rains gathering out towards west period, but further rains gatrthat] out towards west period, but further rains gatrthat will towards west period, but further rains gatrthat will move 'ds west period, but further rains gatrthat will move in west period, but further rains gatrthat will move in acrossest period, but further rains gatrthat will move in across the and that will move in across the far north—west of the as we far north—west of the uk as we head overnight period. head into the overnight period. elsewhere, will

marco rubio, one richland and charleston. nikki haley was for marco rubio in 2016, worth remembering but trump was the hostile insurgent then tried to take over the party. and yet he won 44, 46 counties in south carolina when he was the new guy in the insurgence. so even then he was popular in the state. if nikki haley is going to have a chance, she has to richland county, and i would argue she has to win it quite big. second largest population-wise but the voters we've been hearing from tonight, jake, this is greenville county. you were talking to one of our correspondents there earlier. it's 10% of the state population. this here is the more southern part of the state, if you will, georgia. georgia, alabama. this is very evangelical country and donald trump trump expects and is counting on running it up very big right here. governor haley has campaigned out here trying to blunt that again, we can stop talking about polling now because we're going to be counting votes in two or three minutes. but the key part of the place for governor haley is here. this is what in south carolina, especially charleston county, they called the lowcountry and you get down here, you're along the coast, it's gorgeous, it's beautiful, it's historic, it's more affluent. it is less trumpy. but again, i spent some time here a couple of weeks ago. the former governor mark sanford, no trump fan, lost his job in congress because he disagreed with trump, as i'm times still expects haley to win and expects trump to win and win big. i was just texting with someone i used to know when he lived here, moved down here, wants to vote for haley because he thinks trump is a bad role model for his children. just finished voting says he thinks trump is going to win. so when you look at the map, is let's do the 2016 map just so you can see it because it just jumps out at me when you look here and come back to the 2016 this was when donald trump was the new guy, right? then when he was the new guy. so only 33%, this is a primary, this is not against biden, against rubio and cruz and everybody and everybody else left in the race at that point. and marco rubio, one here, and marco rubio one here. so everyone says, oh, but nikki haley was the former governor. she last ran in 2014. this is 26. and so since then this has become donald trump's party without a doubt, this is the 2016 primary map. let's come back to tonight and see what we're looking for. we're going to get votes any minute now, number one, donald trump's expecting a big win. number two, if he gets that big when he will do something that is simply unprecedented in a contested primary. he won iowa. he won new hampshire, he won nevada. he went all of those pretty big margins. he's expecting a very healthy margin here in the end, jake, the game is about delegates, 50 at play tonight. donald trump expects to get most, some people think he could get them all. >> all right, pauline, this is are about to close in south carolina five seconds left in the gop presidential primary fight between donald trump and nikki haley. and right now we can make a major projection cnn projects. do

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marco polo, c. fernand magellan. time! matve, what do you think? i'm 100% sure that this is option b of marco polo, because christopher columbus discovered america, and ferdinand magellan, in my opinion, made the first trip around the world. well, what prevented christopher columbus, for example, from discovering america and going to china to celebrate? well, until the end of his life he thought that he had found a route to india, and that was exactly what he was interested in. and he stayed in america. answer option b. marcoscription of it was the venetian merchant marco polo. seventh question: what were the names of the free citizens of sparta? a, spartyats, birieki, c and lots. time! nikita, what do you think about this? the question is complex. well, i don’t remember exactly, but i intuitively answered c. and lots. yes. elizabeth. i would answer perieki. also, based on my intuition, i immediately gave up protiata, because it seemed to me that it would be too simple. uh-huh, i don’t know, just right , okay, you can, maybe someone will tell us then who the perieki are, victor, i see, you know, it turns out that the perieki are so possible to say, as if merchants, one might say, so figuratively, helots are slaves who, well, from the broken territories of sparta, well, perekovs, they are more semi-free, even, probably, one can say, aspartiates - by the way, perekovs were not taken into the army . asparti are free citizens who were given a plot of land, allocated a plot of land, so they served in the army,

i mean, he says it out loud in in very uncertain terms and marco rubio's but i mean, this is another for me looking at marco rubio. it's another example of just how all of the independent thought within the gop has just collapsed in front of trump. >> i want to pick up on this year, the democratic response because trump had barely gotten the words out of his mouth and president biden jumped on his comments about nato. here's president biden >> know, or the president. our history has ever bowed down to a russian dictator for god's sake, it's dumb, is shameful as dangerous. it's un-american and in a poll last spring, 62% of americans had a favorable view of nato, while 35% had a negative opinion but there is a party split, 76% support for nato among democrats 49% support among republicans. kristin is biden's foreign policy, which is the traditional foreign policy standing strong for nato, standing strong against russian aggression in ukraine. is that good politics for november are not so standing strong with nato. i would say yes. remember, there's been one time that article five has been invoked and that was

marco rubio has zero credibility in this issue. i don't want to hear from marco rubio and what donald trump will and won't do. he made an interesting comment. we saw it when he was president. exactly. this is why we have to be concerned about it, if he is president again. the idea that he is talking about -- you know, using these gangster terms when he refers to nato and other countries. i've always said this, he thinks he is john gotti. the tabloid babies of 1980's new york, that is exactly what has come, he can shake people die alone and get what he wants. the other thing about it is him saying you've got to pay your bills. we all know that donald trump never pays his bills. >> right. he never pays his bills. i mean, puck meets skillet. at least, you worked in a republican administration. are there any seen republicans elected republicans left? chris christie is not an elected republican anymore, but marcotalking nonsense. >> the attrition right is really high when you look at comments mike gallagher just announced he is not going to run again and that was because he voted not to impeach the homeland security secretary. anytime a republican makes a stand on principle, they find themselves primaried. if you look at someone like marco rubio, who was formerly a super strong hawk, and now he has descended to this, to defending basically donald trump saying that he supports russia over nato? it's embarrassing. and it is the vp competition right now, and rubio is trying really hard. he is just embarrassing himself, because he's not going to get it at the end of the day. >> right. elise, you just gave me the perfect segue to john ryan-ish, who is coming to us from the great state of new york. one of the people who is considered a front runner, if you, will for the vp selection of donald trump's won at least phonic, the congresswoman from new york. let's remind everybody of who she was and who

i'm marco petagna . here's your marco petagna. your latest weather update from the met office. we'll see rain clearing leave clearing today to leave a mixture of sunny spells and showers , outbreaks of and showers, outbreaks of rain and working way south working their way south eastwards across and eastwards across england and wales turning wales for the morning. turning increasingly light patchy increasingly light and patchy so not the far not much at all across the far south—east of england by lunchtime, the lunchtime, whereas towards the north and much brighter north and west, much brighter skies down across all skies pushing down across all parts the afternoon . so parts into the afternoon. so a mixture of sunshine with some showers during the course mixture of sunshine with some sh the rs during the course mixture of sunshine with some sh the afternoon.iuring the course mixture of sunshine with some sh the afternoon. iurin showererse of the afternoon. the showers mainly reserved for the north—west here. quite blustery too, wh

marco pola, c- fernand magellan. time. matviy, what do you think? i am 100% sure that this is option b. marco polo, because christopher columbus discovered america, and ferdinand magellan, in my opinion, made the first trip around the world. well, what prevented christopher columbus, for example, from discovering america and going to china to celebrate? until the end of my life life thought that he, that he had found a route to india, and was interested in exactly this, and i stayed in america, the correct answer is option b. marcosit china and leave a description of it was the venetian merchant, marco polo. seventh question: what were the free ones called? citizens of sparta: a spartiates, b) pereiki, c - helots. time. nikita, what do you think about this? the question is complex. well, i don’t remember exactly, but i intuitively answered t. and the lots? yes. elizabeth. i would answer pereki, also based on my intuition, i immediately threw away the protiata, because it seemed to me that it would be too simple, yeah, helots, i don’t know, just right, okay, maybe i answered pereki c, maybe , someone will tell us then who the perieki are, victor, i see it turns out that the perieki are like merchants, you can say so figuratively, but... helots are slaves who, well, are from the impoverished territories of sparta. well, pereek, they are more semi-free, you could even say, aspartiates - by the way, pereks were not taken into the army, aspartiates are free citizens who were given participation, allocated a plot of l

marco rubio won here in richland county. marco rubio won in charleston county along the coast. just back from south carolina interviewing voters there. trump is more popular now than he was then. they say they like nikki haley. they just love donald trump. is it mathematically possible? she has 16 days left to try to change minds. it is possible. if trump goes 4-0, she says she's in the race to stay. but it's pretty hard if you have four in the delegate chase. , s. she says she's going to stay until super tuesday and beyond. this is donald trump's party. the only way to prove it is to beat him somewhere. she's not going to do that tonight. >> thank you so much for being here. >>> up next, historic arguments before the united states supreme court. lawyers arguing that donald trump should remain on the ballot in colorado, and supreme court justices frankly seem receptive in their questioning. the pa >>> some might say it's obvious what's about to happen, unless today's oral arguments were a kaiser sose like head fake. the supreme court seems likely to side with donald trump in hi

and i say, fulham , their and as i say, fulham, their manager, marco said manager, marco silva said afterwardsbut we too fine a point on it, but we were the better side today and the better side won and i couldn't more with him. >> um, as we talk about arsenal, a they a dominant display, they absolutely to absolutely i had i'm having to get to up all get an abacus now to add up all the goals that they've scored. >> my strong >> maths was never my strong point, two, three, six point, but five, two, three, six five in games five and 425 goals in six games since start of the year. since the start of the year. they are. they indeed . and they are. they are indeed. and around when they around christmas time when they lost they to lost to fulham and they lost to west saying, is west ham, we were saying, is that for them? is this that the end for them? is this the they crumble? that the end for them? is this the crumbled they crumble? that the end for them? is this the crumbled in they crumble? that the end for them? is this the crumbled in what, crumble? that the end for them? is this the crumbled i

things that are happening with respect to jpmorgan today, but marco -- is this where the action is right now? there's a new node out from marcoknow who he is, obviously. the risk of the disappointment on both sides of a goldilocks narrative still exist. are we taking for granted all of this other stuff? have we just decided that everything is just going to remain great, that's going to cut, inflations grant continue to flinch, economies come to remain strong and everything is going to be hunky dory? remember jamie dimon not that long ago? let's not pretend everything is hunky dory. >> i think that's where last year we were talking about everything, such broad brushstrokes about the economy, about rates, hard landing, soft landing, rates, up rates down. this year, i think it's much more about actually using a fine brush and defining exactly what we mean by these things. expect in 2024 2% economy, no inflation, 2% inflation, 4% unemployment. you could say it's a soft landing, but obviously i think it's time to retire the plane metaphors. it misses the nuance that that is still not a perfect landing. there are pockets of the eco

marco petagna . >> hello, i'm marco petagna. here's your latest weather update from the met office. we hold on to unsettled weather across the uk over the next few days, all seeing some rain at times mild for the times but staying mild for the times but staying mild for the time being at this weather time being at least this weather fronts outbreaks of rain fronts pushed outbreaks of rain away south—east away from the south—east of england the course of the england during the course of the afternoon. so we've ridge afternoon. so we've got a ridge of pressure building of high pressure building in from things from the west quietly things down overnight period, down for the overnight period, but gathering out but further rains gathering out towards west and that will towards the west and that will move in across far move in across the far north—west we head north—west of the uk as we head into the overnight period. elsewhere though, showers will tend the tend to ease through the evening. lots of clear evening. we'll see lots of clear weather quite weather sending quite misty though patches though with some fog patches across parts wales the across parts of wales and the south—west during the south—west of england during the early moving on from early hours. for moving on from that band, we'll see that rain band, we'll see showers blustery showers turning quite blustery there the far north—west there towards the far north—west by a mild by the morning. quite a mild night. temperatures or night. temperatures down to 4 or 5 degrees rural parts of 5 degrees across rural parts of scotland, elsewhere holding scotland, but elsewhere holding up high figures as up in the high single figures as for outbreaks of for monday, well, outbreaks of rain journey rain continue their journey south across england south eastwards across england and wales, weakening all the while giving some rain while so giving some patchy rain across southeast into across the far southeast into the elsewhere, it's the afternoon. elsewhere, it's a day sunshine with few day of sunshine with a few showers showers showers around those showers quite the north quite blustery towards the north and scotland, once and west of scotland, but once again day for the again it's a mild day for the time of year. temperatures mostly in double or mostly in double figures, 9 or 10 degrees at best. in the north, up to 13 14 celsius north, up to 13 or 14 celsius down south—east as down towards the south—east as for tuesday, we'll further wet and move in and windy weather will move in across of uk across the northwest of the uk towards the south and east, though quieter picture, a though it's a quieter picture, a bit but of bit breezy but plenty of sunshine and staying sunshine around and staying quite time of year. quite mild for the time of year. outbreaks of rain move their way south eastwards later on tuesday and stays and it then stays quite unsettled on wednesday and thursday, colder thursday, but turning colder towards the north later. >> that warm inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . way. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv , online welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's 4:00. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel, we'll be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this is all right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours . be debating, discussing . we'll be debating, discussing and we disagree. and at times we will disagree. but one will be cancelled . so but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today, it's broadcast from journalist danny kelly and also broadcast on author christine hamilton. before we get started, let's get your latest news with ray addison . latest news with ray addison. >> jess nana. it's 4:00. our top stories . sir keir starmer has stories. sir keir starmer has called for a permanent ceasefire in gaza during a speech at the scottish labour conference it's a change to his previous stance of a pause in the fighting, saying instead that the war must stop now. but sir keir says the ceasefire can't be one sided. he's calling on the hamas terror group to release all of its remaining hostages. he also said that a two state solution must be back on the table , an end to be back on the table, an end to the fighting, not just now and not just for a pause , but permanently. >> a ceasefire that lasts . >> a ceasefire that lasts. >> a ceasefire that lasts. >> conference. >> conference. >> that is what must happen now. >> that is what must happen now. >> the fighting must stop now . >> the fighting must stop now. >> the fighting must stop now. >> now . in the >> the fighting must stop now. >> now. in the us, >> the fighting must stop now. >> now . in the us, president >> now. in the us, president biden has assured ukraine that military aid will be delivered. >> that's despite delays that he blamed on republicans. the white house says that inaction by the gop allowed russia to capture the eastern city of avdiivka yesterday comes as some republicans cast doubt on the us's future support for ukraine, after donald trump said that he'd let russia attack any member that doesn't meet its spending targets . under nato spending targets. under nato guidelines, countries must spend 2% of their gdp to fund the alliance. but speaking at the munich security conference, republican senator jd vance said europe must get used to the idea of the us being less involved in the region and look the best way to help ukraine. >> i think from a european perspective, is for europe to become more self—sufficient. vladimir course , in vladimir putin is, of course, in the geopolitical backyard of europe, states, as it europe, the united states, as it focuses on east asia, focuses more on east asia, simply expected to foot simply can't be expected to foot a disproportionate share of the burden russia authorities have been accused of doing everything they can to avoid handing over mr navalny's body to his family. >> yesterday , the 69 year old >> yesterday, the 69 year old mother of vladimir putin's most vocal critic visited the remote penal colony where he died. she says she was told his body had been taken to a nearby morgue. but when she arrived, it was closed. meanwhile in london, tributes are continuing today at the russian embassy as people gather outside to lay flowers and messages for alexei navalny, his spokespeople claim his death was orchestrated by or orchestrated rather murder by the russian president. that's been rejected by the kremlin . been rejected by the kremlin. well, two people have been charged by police and will appearin charged by police and will appear in court after a pro—palestine demonstration in central london yesterday , 34 central london yesterday, 34 year old lucia whittaker de abreu has been charged with failing to remove a face covering 48 year old martin prady is accused of obstructing a police constable. it comes after tens of thousands of protesters marched through the irish, scottish and english capitals in major demonstrations against the war in gaza . two against the war in gaza. two ministers have written to police chiefs to express concerns over the safety of politicians amid increased protests . security increased protests. security minister tom tugendhat and policing minister chris philp took the unusual step after pro—palestinian activists gathered outside the home of tory mp tobias ellwood. it comes as reports in the daily mail suggest that just stop oil activists are planning to occupy the homes of mps with one protester reportedly telling a journalist that the group is ready to, quote, look a bit loony . the king was seen smiling loony. the king was seen smiling and waving as he attended church in sandringham this morning. braving the wet weather is majesty and the queen clutched umbrellas in their first public outing since prince harry's interview on us breakfast television. the duke of sussex is said to be willing to undertake some royal duties while his father undergoes treatment for cancer , though treatment for cancer, though there's reportedly been no change to current arrangements . change to current arrangements. and britain's brightest stars are putting on their sunday best ahead of the baftas tonight, the nuclear bomb epic oppenheimer is leading the pack with 13 nominations, including best film. elsewhere, the crown star claire foy is up for best supporting actress for her role in the heartfelt drama all of us strangers. her co—star paul mescal is also up for a gong, though the film's lead, andrew scott, was notably snubbed. sophie ellis—bextor will perform her 2001 hit murder on the dance floor after it re—entered the charts thanks to a much talked about scene in the film saltburn, which is also up for five awards for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now back to . nana. >> thank you ray. it's fast approaching six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . here we go again. nana akua. here we go again. another attempt to marginalise women in what can only be described in my view , as an described in my view, as an absurd assessment . according to absurd assessment. according to an nhs trust, breast milk or chest milk really produced by trans women . so basically men, trans women. so basically men, it's as good for babies as that produced by a mother who's given birth . what a leaked letter from birth. what a leaked letter from the medical director of university of sussex nhs trust . university of sussex nhs trust. in order not to discriminate , in order not to discriminate, described both the both of them as human milk. now the trust said that the milk produced by trans women, after taking a combination of drugs is comparable. i presume in a good way to that produced following the birth of a baby . don't make the birth of a baby. don't make me laugh . on what planet can me laugh. on what planet can that possibly be true? let's ignore if you will, the fact that a trans woman is a biological man. and let's just focus on the numerous drugs taken by this person a to stabilise their condition, and b to enable the level of production of milk required. phd.so production of milk required. phd. so let's look at point b so to enable the creation of milk, a combination of drugs as given to a man to firstly grow the breast tissue capable of lactation , which include lactation, which include testosterone suppressants and oestrogen and progesterone , then oestrogen and progesterone, then domperidone or metoclopramide are given to stimulate lactation in low doses. these drugs are used to avert nausea, but in high doses they can bring on lactation and at such levels one of them can also cause heart arrhythmias. what's going on here? even if this person were a biological woman, any medication taken when pregnant is scrutinised heavily to ensure that it doesn't cross the placenta. and when breastfeeding, the traces of it don't end up in the milk itself. so why on earth take such a risk when there is little or no information on the long terme effect of this to the recipient of a newborn baby .7 and there is of a newborn baby? and there is no real need to do this anyway, is it even safe? the nhs trust point to a five month scientific study in 2022, which measured testosterone levels on chest milk , which found no observable milk, which found no observable side effects. but the study didn't really go far enough to evaluate the long terme effect or assess what was actually in the milk . and as this is the milk. and as this is a relatively new phenomenon , relatively new phenomenon, little else is known . why is little else is known. why is this even necessary .7 the answer this even necessary? the answer is it isn't. there are plenty of safe and tested alternatives available . instead, this is available. instead, this is about satisfying someone's fantasy of breastfeeding , and fantasy of breastfeeding, and certainly, in my view, isn't in the interest of the child. rosie duffield said. babies cannot be used as guinea pigs for someone else's lifestyle choice . when else's lifestyle choice. when a man has not and cannot grow a baby, why are we pandering to this? who does it benefit? not the children. we wouldn't do any other medical experiments on babies breast milk made by a baby's biological mother is tailor made for that baby. exact de milly hill, author of the positive birth book, went further . she positive birth book, went further. she said breastfeeding is not about the experience of the person doing the feeding. it is about nourishing and nurturing a baby. she went on to say no newborn should be used as a prop to affirm an adult's identity as female . but then identity as female. but then university hospital sussex trust is a member of stonewall's diversity champions programme , diversity champions programme, and they admitted that the policy was taken from external organisations in a statement, the trust said the trust takes the trust said the trust takes the wellbeing and safeguarding of children very seriously . of children very seriously. well, if that's true , why are well, if that's true, why are you prepared? in the words of rosie duffield, to use newborn babies as guinea pigs. rosie duffield, to use newborn babies as guinea pigs . so before babies as guinea pigs. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, would the conservatives be better off with a leader who is, well, conservative, who could replace rishi sunak to stop this terminal decline in their election fortunes? afterwards, we'll open that up to the great british voice who today is coming from kidderminster. then at 450 it's world view. we'll be crossing live to los angeles to speak to the host of the politics people podcast. paul duddridge, going duddridge, on all what's going on in the states. then at five, it's this outside . my it's this week's outside. my mystery is an award mystery guest is an award winning chef with restaurants across london. ian. but i'm not going to tell you who it is. who do you think it is? you can guess now, but not many clues. but that's coming up in the next houh but that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gb views gbnews.com or tweet @gbnews. all right, tweet me @gbnews. all right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel bruce caster and journalist danny kelly. and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. right. i'm gonna start with you, danny. wow wow. what a treat . chestfeeding wow. what a treat. chestfeeding i said this article this morning, and at first i wondered whether it was a scientific breakthrough. >> and i thought, this is i was looking at it, i did i was looking at it, i did i was looking at it, i did i was looking at an april fool. >> i was looking at it objectively, thinking, okay, so this is a scientific breakthrough. >> can basically lactate >> a bloke can basically lactate and i and produce milk. and then i thought, well, hang on, this is unnatural. almost turning unnatural. it's almost turning into mary shelley's frankenstein, . science is frankenstein, almost. science is almost turning into a movie . almost turning into a movie. >> and the fact that they are giving people medical supplements the word there supplements and the word there that was so pertinent was never necessary. >> this is not necessary . there >> this is not necessary. there are plenty of off the shelf formulas that people can purchase, and the world health organisation will, quite understandably say breast is best. >> @- e all of that, but we're >> i get all of that, but we're talking about someone who was born and all intents born a man and for all intents and purposes, is a man. now >> yes, they can go through whatever reassignment. whatever gender reassignment. >> all of that and >> i get all of that and i respect them. >> that's journey. >> that's their journey. >> that's their journey. >> it not necessary. >> but it is not necessary. >> but it is not necessary. >> and when you actually look at the chemicals that they are feeding themselves, feeding into themselves, throwing gullets throwing down their gullets in order and the order to lactate and the possible, why are you making me smile .7 smile? >> you point down their gullet, you really do. you really do. >> but this is the this is the in a nutshell. >> and you know, it's not necessary , is it? necessary, is it? >> it's that's the thing. >> it's that's the thing. >> if it was necessary, it's a scientific breakthrough. but i could go to marks and spencer's and buy some baby formula. >> i'm a bloke. i don't need to lactate the thing is, it is a natural thing. >> so men that can lactate and sometimes they. but. but in very small quantities. and they don't have breast tissue it have the breast tissue to do it like a woman. so they need to take all these chemicals and hormones to make that happen. some women sometimes some some women sometimes take some chemicals to encourage the lactation, is top of lactation, but this is on top of someone they are someone who, if they are identifying trans, may well identifying as trans, may well be taking other drugs to stabilise condition as stabilise that condition as well. christine, um , the whole well. christine, um, the whole thing is just horrifying from start to finish and it's just more woke . more woke. >> kyrie. >> kyrie. >> it's not necessary . >> it's not necessary. >> it's not necessary. >> yes, breast milk is best for babies. we all know that. but please of babies grow up without being able to be breastfed for one reason or another. one reason or another. >> one reason or another. >> the women die in childbirth for god's sake. there are plenty of babies who do not have the advantage. if it is an advantage of breastfeeding, we just don't need this. is why? what is need this. it is why? what is the point .7 what is this health the point? what is this health authority seeking to do? they're just seeking to push wokeism in our faces. they really are. it's just it's so unnecessary. it's so unnatural . and exactly it is so unnatural. and exactly it is so unnatural. and exactly it is so new that we have no idea what might happen down the line for babies who are chest fed. >> i think it's you know, and what they were trying to do is classify both of them as human milk because they are, but not differentiate. just you differentiate. so it is just you could end up with, you know, we're going down such a dangerous and ghastly path. >> i mean, goodness knows where all this is going to end. if normal, sensible people don't stand up and say enough. >> but there are plenty of drugs that have been produced for one illness or one condition that have found to have different side effects. >> for example, bald men >> for example, uh, bald men around the will have taken around the world will have taken these tablets that were, i think, designed for heart. >> you know about >> really? how do you know about that, >> really? how do you know about tha how we know? >> how do we know? >> how do we know? >> i was losing my hair, 25 >> when i was losing my hair, 25 years ago, the case study when i wasn't a study. wasn't a case study. >> he's asking for a friend. >> he's asking for a friend. >> there loads of >> no, but there were loads of these loads of these these drugs, loads of these tablets you could take that tablets that you could take that were for example, were just viagra, for example, was for heart, uh, for was designed for heart, uh, for high blood pressure. >> okay. so people with high blood taking >> okay. so people with high blood and, taking >> okay. so people with high blood and, at taking >> okay. so people with high blood and, at night1g >> okay. so people with high blood and, at night time, viagra and, and at night time, they understood how had a they understood how to had a rather interesting effect on, on their libido. >> example. >> for example. >> for example. >> that's an established >> so that's an established drug. >> so that's an established dru now the baldness, >> now it's the baldness, a bald, impotent who happened bald, impotent guy who happened to that's to come off. yes. but that's that's i'm being fairto to come off. yes. but that's that's i'm being fair to the that's so i'm being fair to the pharmaceutical companies , even pharmaceutical companies, even though they've said it's not necessary to withdraw that you didn't. >> lots and lots of drugs that are established off the shelf prescribed by your doctor were once for something else. >> yes, but but viagra what it? >> it.7 >> my it? >> my point is, is that we shouldn't necessarily dismiss it >> my point is, is that we sho ofin't necessarily dismiss it >> my point is, is that we sho of handecessarily dismiss it >> my point is, is that we sho of hand because. dismiss it >> my point is, is that we sho of hand because. becauset out of hand because. because although it's designed for although it's not designed for this, talking about the fact this, i'm talking about the fact that long time study that there is no long time study that there is no long time study that says that the effect of this so—called chest milk on a newborn . newborn. >> so on in life, whether >> so later on in life, whether that adverse that might have some adverse effect don't know about. effect that we don't know about. so take the on it? so why take the risk on it? >> well, it's not necessarily you shouldn't not necessarily. >> viagra enables men to >> i mean, viagra enables men to do are by logically do what they are by logically supposed to be able to do anyway. it helps men when you anyway. so it helps men when you know it isn't making them, enabung know it isn't making them, enabling them to do something which they were not born to do. which is what this business of. although trans men producing chest milk, they were not born to produce milk and it's obscene. well, men can produce milk, but you know and a man can do that, but not at a large quantities required to sustain child. >> so this is enabling it to happen more. and it's also this is a vanity project. it's a it's a vanity thing. of course it is essential. >> it's not essential it working. it's not vanity. it's wokeism. well you will put a fine and accept this. >> in my view, there's a level of fetishism towards really. well, i think so as well because you know why? why would you need to that know that you to do that if you know that you can get milk in other forms and there's element of to there's an element of risk to it, the newborn baby, why it, to the newborn baby, why would that? i, as would you do that? i, as a mother would never do that. if there was an alternative that had literally no risk. so, you know, don't there's know, i don't think there's any associated that associated risk with milk that is baby from, you is given to a baby from, you know, lots of babies have to survive on formula milk because for one reason or another. >> then that's got >> exactly. so then that's got a long terme. >> historical, analysis. >> historical, um, analysis. so we know already this is we know already that this is relatively safe for babies, but this is ludicrous. >> what's a man going to do using that? what's. i'm sorry. well, the whole thing makes me so angry. what is a man going to do if he's got from their perspective from from a trans woman's perspective? >> bloke who identifies >> so a bloke who now identifies what does is fulfil his what that does is fulfil his i can't really call them her. i'm so sorry. that's fulfilling his lifetime ambition to be a whatever it is. is it a fantasy, though? >> is it a fantasy? >> is it a fantasy? >> it's not like something in your mind you want to imagine yourself breastfeeding and this and that. >> who's who's benefiting, who's benefiting . it's not the baby on benefiting. it's not the baby on this and that's my worry. >> it's not something that health trust should be promoting. view. if some promoting. in my view. if some man to do that's up to him. >> but the baby. are we concerned about the baby? we don't know the results and the effects of this or the chemicals that are within chest. but that are within that chest. but anyway, you think? gb anyway, what do you think? gb views news. com tweet me views gb news. com or tweet me at i'm nana akua. we at gb news. i'm nana akua. we are live tv, online and on are live on tv, online and on digital coming digital radio. coming up 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outward mp andrea jenkyns has called for rishi sunak to be replaced with a real conservative party leader. she was talking to me yesterday. let's see what she had to say. so who do you think then? >> um, who do i think .7 i mean, >> um, who do i think? i mean, i'm happy with pretty suella. >> i mean, i'm bringing back boris, to be honest with you. he's still. yeah. i mean, um , he's still. yeah. i mean, um, i'd want him to clearly ditch him at zara stuff, but when i'm campaigning thing, um, is still so positively strong. >> response on the doorstep. >> response on the doorstep. >> i mean , well, this comes as >> i mean, well, this comes as many angry tory members inundate i >> -- >> did the bring back boris campaign with messages of support following the wellingborough and kingswood by—election defeats. reform uk honorary president gb news presenter nigel farage has even said that he believes conservative members would choose him to be the next leader. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking , debate this hour, i'm asking, well, he would say that, wouldn't he? could a more conservative leader. they'd probably . could a more probably choose me. could a more conservative the conservative leader save the tories? joining to tories? well, joining me to debate is political debate this is political commentator quirk, commentator russell quirk, social dale, social commentator jim dale, conservative peer lord moylan and former leader of ukip henry bolton. that's the wrong box. it should be a star box. the should be a star box. i'm the biggest right, right, biggest box. er, right, right, right. i'm going to start with you, because i was you, lord moylan, because i was reading said in the reading what you said in the daily telegraph. if you could elaborate said. elaborate on what you said. >> i'm, there's a poll out >> well, i'm, there's a poll out today which indicates as so many polls do, that you could conceivably see a path to victory if you had a new leader of the party and new, more conservative policies and all i was saying in the telegraph today is i don't think that today is that i don't think that at this stage that is a realistic way forward. >> um, unless rishi sunak decided voluntarily to give up being prime minister, the mechanism for a change of leadership is just too lengthy and too elaborate, and it's still also the case that there's a large number of mps. i'll put it another there's no real it another way. there's no real agreement within the conservative in the house conservative party in the house of commons. uh on, on on a new set of policies. >> so it's you can't just switch to a whole new set of policies if, if many of your mps don't want to move in that direction. >> so that second leg is pretty unrealistic as well. >> so i was saying really probably way of probably the best way of addressing now is to bring addressing this now is to bring the election forward, because i don't getting any better, really. >> it's interesting because dame andrew jenkins suggested that actually have actually we could have a leadership contest. the leadership contest. i said the six between, she said, six weeks in between, she said, it's not that long. we could do that get a that quickly and get a new leader there's any hope. so leader if there's any hope. so just say went along that just say they went along that track a new leader. let's give an example of suella braverman very moreland, an example of suella braverman verythink moreland, an example of suella braverman verythink that moreland, an example of suella braverman verythink that that oreland, an example of suella braverman verythink that that thatind, an example of suella braverman verythink that that that could you think that that that could help their fortunes? yeah >> think one of the >> well, i think one of the other problems mean, other problems is, i mean, i think suella would very think suella would be a very fine leader party, but fine leader of the party, but and are others as well. and there are others as well. but think of the problems but i think one of the problems is that we've got this additional difficulty that lot additional difficulty that a lot of electorate have just of the electorate have just stopped the stopped listening to the conservative they're conservative party and they're not persuaded, you know, not really persuaded, you know, oh, got some new oh, you've got some new policies, the policies, you know, pull the other they're really other one. um they're not really that a new that interested. and a new leader. i think people, you know, have stopped listening in a that's the that's of a way. that's the that's one of the problems. >> russell what you think? >> yeah . look, we are >> yeah. look, we are potentially ten months away from a election, so the a general election, so the election be called by election needs to be called by january 2025. um, and look, we used to say that a week is a long time in politics, let alone ten months. and frankly, the conservative party have absolutely nothing to lose . uh, absolutely nothing to lose. uh, but to replace rishi sunak. and frankly, you know, given the results on thursday in two by elections , with another one just elections, with another one just around the corner , a lot of around the corner, a lot of leaders have been replaced just for, you know, far less indiscretion politically than rishi sunak brought us to on thursday . thursday. >> um, i do think that given that the latest poll that i saw said that something like 25% of people that voted conservative in 2019 will vote conservative again at the next election, in other words, 75% of conservative voters that voted in 2019 will not vote conservative if the conservative party have nothing to lose. >> i'm personally because i really fear a labour government, a keir starmer administration because, well, look, we all know those of us in the centre and on the centre right. how that's going to end up in 3 to 4 years time. uh, you know, to save us from that fate and for an even worse economy, uh, even worse position when it comes to not protecting our borders, crime, identity politics, uh , high identity politics, uh, high taxation on, i think taxation and so on, i think rather going into an rather than going into an election, uh, certainly now , and election, uh, certainly now, and us as a party facing armageddon and then hoping for the best over the next five years, we're then it all gets back to normal and, uh, there's a kind of cleansing with a new leader. we do have and do still have time. and actually, i agree with the suella braverman point. but also, not forget, lord also, let's not forget, lord david lord david frost, i david frost. lord david frost, i think, is the man that should be prime minister of this country with boris johnson. >> yeah, well, what about but but that's great. but what about the whilst they're doing the people whilst they're doing the people whilst they're doing the jim dale yeah. >> the question will the >> the question is will the tories do better or with a more conservative leader if, if, if that means going further to the right, be this right, they'll be through this wall canal. to be wall and in the canal. to be frank you. because frank with you. um, because because basically when you as far as general elections are concerned, um , anybody is on the concerned, um, anybody is on the fringe of politics and i would include extreme right as being on the fringe or the extreme left as being on the fringe. you don't get elected. it's as simple as that. so if they're going to shift from sunak, who simple as that. so if they're gcpretty shift from sunak, who simple as that. so if they're gcpretty farft from sunak, who simple as that. so if they're gcpretty far right�*n sunak, who simple as that. so if they're gcpretty far right anyway 1, who simple as that. so if they're gcpretty far right anyway away is pretty far right anyway away and further, right, then and go even further, right, then that's just going to send them even further into oblivion. let's let's be very, let's face it. let's be very, very it. sunak is very simple about it. sunak is sunk with or without him. the tories are sunk. simple. yeah, it's true. >> if you take the a out of there then he is. yeah. he's actually sunk . actually sunk. >> you noticed. yeah. >> you noticed. yeah. >> revolted. >> revolted. >> yeah i agree with lord moynan in terms of the practicality. his the logistics of changing leader . the his the logistics of changing leader. the time is very, very short. but think at the short. um, but i think at the same time, if you are heading towards an iceberg at full steam ahead and the captain refused to change course, then what do you do? you just sort of prepare the lifeboats or you try to move the captain aside and change course ? captain aside and change course? i would do the latter. well, i'd probably do both, actually, but i think there is time. but then we've also got to have a leader who can unite . the conservative who can unite. the conservative party if it's going to work, a leader who is going to, who is going to have to have a plan ready to go on day one, and not just simply be able to tell the electorate, look, know, electorate, look, you know, this is these the new policies or is these are the new policies or this is the new plan, but actually demonstrate within days actually demonstrate within days a engagement on a determined engagement on implementing . implementing. >> yeah, but but then then it's possible. >> but at the moment i think the conservatives are on, on course >> but at the moment i think the co an rvatives are on, on course >> but at the moment i think the co an absoluteire on, on course >> but at the moment i think the co an absolute decimation. urse >> but at the moment i think the co an absolute decimation. and to an absolute decimation. and we'll end up with a labour government which i fear. >> well, a lot people are >> um, well, a lot of people are fearing i mean, lord fearing that. i mean, lord moylan, you you do you moylan, do you do you do you think i mean, you think that there i mean, you suggested different do suggested a different leader. do you think there's any modicum of hope tory is hope for the tory party? is there they can do? there anything they can do? well, always, because well, there's always, because we're suggesting more conservative leader. >> that's difference . >> that's that's the difference. >> that's that's the difference. >> actually suggesting >> i'm not actually suggesting changing because don't changing leader, because i don't actually time to actually think there's time to do implement it and do in do it, implement it and do it in a that's credible to the a way that's credible to the voters. the real voters. that's the real difficulty we face. >> but what i am, um, but i, i do think . there is always hope do think. there is always hope of course, hope should never be abandoned . and it is possible abandoned. and it is possible that things will get better on the economic front. that the boats will stop that inflation and cost of living will come down, and so on. but i don't see the signs really of that happening in in a way that is going to carry people going to carry enough people with us, uh, to, to make a huge difference. but it's possible that we could have a better outcome in a few months down the road than we would if we were going today. >> but then it's also possible things are going to get worse and people are rolling off fixed rate mortgages, example, and rate mortgages, for example, and seeing payments rate mortgages, for example, and se(up| payments rate mortgages, for example, and se(up , payments rate mortgages, for example, and se(up , there'd payments rate mortgages, for example, and se(up , there'd be payments rate mortgages, for example, and se(up , there'd be more ayments rate mortgages, for example, and se(up , there'd be more peoples go up, there'd be more people doing that. that will add to the cost crisis, and we cost of living crisis, and we don't what's going to don't know what's going to happen boats we're happen with boats because we're not if the summer not in charge. and if the summer weather is placid and the seas are who knows how are flat, who knows how many might across? um, we we're might come across? um, we we're not in charge of that. well what i was reading here is tory peer. >> lord moylan in the telegraph. i the party had i said, said the party had a possible path to victory if it got rid of mr sunak. i'm quoting the poll there. >> so you're quoting slightly mangled by the. >> but i think that's what the poll today shows. but then i went to that that is if went on to say that that is if that the path to victory, that is the path to victory, there are considerable difficulty involved with both parts of it. >> mhm. but jim, do. >> mhm, mhm. but jim, do. >> mhm, mhm. but jim, do. >> yeah. when you look at things that work and don't work, you sometimes brand, the sometimes look at the brand, the conservative brand is destroyed . conservative brand is destroyed. thatis conservative brand is destroyed. that is the problem. it's been destroyed uh in destroyed from within. uh in terms of what they've done and what they've not done. and when you a brand that's not just you have a brand that's not just tarnished, but but in wrecks, you going you ain't you ain't going to you ain't going back at that. going to come back at that. that's, that's just to that's, that's just going to that's polls are more or that's why the polls are more or less as they are. that's less stayed as they are. that's why you've the by elections why you've seen the by elections result that you've this result that you've seen this week. there's rescue week. and there's no rescue party um, are not going party reform, um, are not going to be the next government in any shape they'll come shape or form. they'll come probably fourth, not even third. so there's only 111 way, one direction. and that is bring on a general election and you will see change of government. all see a change of government. all right. see a change of government. all rigiwell not okay. well it's >> well it's not okay. well it's not going you all finally not going to ask you all finally then, um, so will a potential change. we know the change. i think we know the answer a more conservative answer could a more conservative leader save the tories? russell quirk, no? quirk, yes or no? >> can i just quickly >> yes. can i just quickly correct though saying correct jim, though jim's saying that far right is that rishi sunak is far right is absolutely . not absolutely unbelievable. not only is it insulting, it's just simply not right. i don't think he said no, i didn't. did he said no, i didn't. what did you didn't i said to the you say? didn't i said to the right party the problem with the conservative is that conservative party is that it has too left. it actually has gone too left. it actually needs to the manifesto needs to fulfil the manifesto pledges might pledges of 2019. then it might get so, so very briefly then. >> more conservative leader >> so a more conservative leader , could a more conservative leader save tories? or leader save the tories? yes or no ? russell yes. yes, jim. yes no? russell yes. yes, jim. yes or no? >> not a chance. >> not a chance. >> not a chance. >> not more than yes or no. uh, possibly. >> it could be done by magic, where you just pull a curtain and you have a new. and all of a sudden you have a new monster with new policies. if that were possible, then it might be a part of victory. >> henry paulson. >> henry paulson. >> yes, if if can >> yes, yes, if yes, if it can be— >> yes, yes, if yes, if it can be done. >> and yes, if the policies are ready to go with agreement across the party, which i don't think happen. 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said that andrew jenkins has said that it's to go it's time for rishi sunak to go and replaced by a real and be replaced by a real conservative leader , and this conservative leader, and this comes after the increased support of the bring back boris campaign following the tories devastating wellingborough and kingswood by—election defeats. so, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking could a more conservative leader save the tories? well, let's see what my panel make that. joining my panel make of that. joining me christine hamilton, me now, christine hamilton, author and broadcaster, also a broadcaster journalist, broadcaster and journalist, danny kelly. right. christine hamilton, i'm going to start with, you know , i know it's with, you know, i know it's there isn't time. >> it's ridiculous what the tory party needs to do is change the substance, not the style of leadership or anything like that . i know it's i mean, the whole rot started when, uh , there's rot started when, uh, there's only about 50 real concern lives amongst the members of parliament. and the rot started with david cameron when he got in and he got control of the selection of candidates. and instead of constituencies being allowed to select a candidate in their own mould, which is much further to the right, they had to have people foisted on them by central office. so we've got all these people who are supposedly tory mps. they're not as you can see, by the way as has you can see, by the way they behave. it's far too they behave. so it's far too late. the, you know, all the late. and the, you know, all the metaphors are there, the icebergs and deckchairs and goodness knows what. it's far too late. there is nothing they can do. and what the tory party needs to do . needs to do. >> yeah, hitting an iceberg. >> yeah, hitting an iceberg. >> they need to. can i just finish? they need. they need a catastrophic defeat, which is what they're going to get to throw some sense into them. and they may be back in five years, i doubt it. it'll probably be ten years. >> all maritime metaphors, aren't they? >> sinking ships and titanic and ice packs and wheels. >> okay, the question . >> okay, the question. >> okay, the question. >> wheels one. >> wheels one. >> what the wheel ? >> what was the wheel? >> what was the wheel? >> at the wheel, all >> one asleep at the wheel, all that sort of stuff. motoring one really know. oh, not really know. oh, it's not it. >> more a no. >> it's more than a no. >> it's. >> it's. >> oh, no, but it's a ship one. of course the wheel. >> the wheel. that's right. >> the wheel. that's right. >> okay. came before cars. >> okay. uh came before cars. >> okay. uh came before cars. >> that's correct. >> that's correct. >> can a conservative, a more conservative the conservative leader save the tories? answer no, tories? the answer is no, because party are because the reform party are determined ultimate determined on ultimate ruination. the reform. the reform freudian , the. reform of freud's freudian, the. oh, that's my lipstick rolling along the table. uh, the reform party are going to scupper them. another maritime metaphor. they're going to scupper the good ship tories, aren't they? so hang on, what kind of boris johnson could kind of party are you if you rely on other people to fail? >> i suppose you're the labour party now. i've thought about it. of party are you? it. what sort of party are you? >> if you someone to fail. >> if you need someone to fail. >> if you need someone to fail. >> but the point is reform. what i answer this, but the i can answer this, but the tories saying, oh if tories saying, oh well, if people vote instead of you're ruining by voting ruining our votes by voting for reform, kind not okay reform, what kind of not okay reform, what kind of not okay reform former the long terme they're playing a long game so reform may get into power reform may not get into power for 234. for another 234. >> that's if they do. i'm just hypothesising for 3 or 4 more general and want general elections. and they want a proper conservative government. yes. >> conservative party >> about the conservative party but the kind of party are you if you're you vote for you're saying, do you vote for reform because you've reform reformist because you've never had an alternative to the conservative party, and now there a viable conservative, there is a viable conservative, you're that reform you're assuming that reform only took from the tories, and took votes from the tories, and what the tories have to do. >> the people who matter to the tories the people. a tories are the people. that's a good the people who good point. well, the people who matter, voted matter, the people who voted tory in and if they can't tory in 2019. and if they can't hang on to those at the by—election, most of them sat on their and stayed at home. their hands and stayed at home. that's and also that's big trouble. and also apathy elections. apathy by elections. >> ring true with >> never really ring true with general either. general elections either. >> turnout. >> tiny turnout. >> tiny turnout. >> know conservative voters >> i know conservative voters who are voting reform. don't who are voting reform. i don't know labour voters who are voting that's just know labour voters who are votiown that's just know labour voters who are votiown personal that's just know labour voters who are votiown personal anecdotal just my own personal anecdotal experience, you're right, experience, but you're right, lots of labour people will be voting reform, particularly in lots of labour people will be voti north, rm, particularly in lots of labour people will be voti north, the particularly in lots of labour people will be voti north, the north, larly in lots of labour people will be voti north, the north, red/ in lots of labour people will be voti north, the north, red walls, the north, the north, red walls, blue walls, red walls, whatever colour. >> i think also in the by elections, the people who are brilliant at tactical voting are the they want, the lib dems and they want, above else to get the tories above all else to get the tories out. so in those by elections, i reckon quite a lot of lib dems etc. will have voted for the person who would get out. the tories tactical voting will be labouh tories tactical voting will be labour. yes, will be labour. yeah i'm not sure. >> ed davey for starters , >> ed davey for starters, because it's got a wall. where is he on quiet post office thing when he after. before that he'd asked people to resign about 34 times. now he's involved in embroiled in something and he's still clinging on. and no one can find problem with can find the problem with tactical my opinion, tactical voting, in my opinion, is you feel isolated and is that you feel isolated and you think, well, what if i'm the only one who votes tactically? >> you sod this, >> i tell you what, sod this, i'm to vote lib dem or i'm i'm going to vote lib dem or i'm going to vote whoever the lib dems a lot of my guess is that a lot of the dems will have lot of the lib dems will have looked the elections and looked at the by elections and thought, right to defeat the tories. >> we need to vote labour. >> we need to vote labour. >> no, i understand that, but but isolation you may go and but in isolation you may go and your your fingers and hand your your your fingers and hand may over the boxes may be quivering over the boxes and oh, the only and you think, oh, am i the only one who's going to vote tactically? i wasting my tactically? am i wasting my vote? knows exactly. vote? well nobody knows exactly. it's uncertainty. it's the uncertainty. >> apologise. if >> it's just apologise. if anyone was offended by that, by lib dems. >> w- w“ >> oh, there's loads of them out there. >> what's he said to be a repeat it. >> there's loads of. >> there's loads of. >> what did you say. well i can't repeat it. >> i think i know, i think apologies. >> are you offended by i wasn't, i wasn't offended, no. >> didn't hear it. well look, the offend you is the day the day i offend you is the day this place gets shut down. the day i offend you is the day thisif lace gets shut down. the day i offend you is the day thisif lice gets shut down. the day i offend you is the day thisif i sayjets shut down. the day i offend you is the day thisif i say itts shut down. the day i offend you is the day thisif i say it on hut down. the day i offend you is the day thisif i say it on air. down. the day i offend you is the day thisif i say it on air. yeah, yeah. >> so what do you think, then? more conservative conservatives. >> potentially. >> boris johnson, potentially. >> boris johnson, potentially. >> that's what arade dam andrew jenkins said. said, no jenkins said. she said, oh no boris. said, boris. and i actually said, i remember did monologue. i remember i did a monologue. i said, most stupid move said, it's the most stupid move that tories have ever done that the tories have ever done to of boris was stupid. to get rid of boris was stupid. and now look where they are. >> yeah, but bringing boris back is no solution the problem. is no solution to the problem. but is culpable of all but boris is culpable of all these boris was, but boris is culpable of all thesknow, boris was, but boris is culpable of all thesknow, locked boris was, but boris is culpable of all thesknow, locked down oris was, but boris is culpable of all thesknow, locked down net was, but boris is culpable of all thesknow, locked down net zero. you know, locked down net zero. it's not even a higher taxes, not even an mp, not now. they've not even an mp, not now. they've no boris was was no everything. but boris was was in favour of all the things that have problems the have caused the problems in the first place. >> all i'm saying is that she suggested we should bring suggested that we should bring him drop the him back. but he should drop the net which i would him back. but he should drop the net but which i would him back. but he should drop the net but \shows would him back. but he should drop the net but \shows nothing agree. but this shows nothing without views. without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices. opportunity to be voices. there opportunity to be on and tell what on the show and tell us what they about topics they think about the topics we're discussing, go, we're discussing, which we go, oh, where's oh, there's no map, where's my map? we'll go straight to you, john kidderminster. my john reading kidderminster. my maps think maps gone. what do you think a more leader save more conservative leader save the man. the tories. oh, man. >> you so much, >> nana, thank you so much, christine. i'm 101% with christine here. >> think there's >> i don't think there's anything can save the anything that can save the tories now, because i think they've of they've made a complete mess of it believe it in a nutshell, i believe genuinely needs to trust the government and the politicians and how anybody could trust any of these tories. >> now is beyond me, because they make so many things they say they're going to do, and then nothing happens. and i suppose i'm representative or an example of, should we say, a pensioner. >> i'm 75 years of age. >> i'm 75 years of age. >> i'm 75 years of age. >> i'm living on a pension plus a little bit part time work. a little bit of part time work. >> i'm not a rich man. i'm just i joe public and i don't i think joe public and i don't trust him. i wouldn't trust him any than they could any further than they could throw as boris coming back, >> and as for boris coming back, well, forget that he was the beginning of the for me. beginning of the end for me. >> christine, i'm with you. >> so christine, i'm with you. >> so christine, i'm with you. >> john. john >> great. thank you. john. john thank you so much. >> always a pleasure. there he is. a great british voice. is. he's a great british voice. we'll get the maps back for you next you're with me. i'm next week. you're with me. i'm nana gb news nana akua. this is gb news coming the next for coming up in the next hour for the british debate. the great british debate. this houh the great british debate. this hour. asking , what's the hour. i'm asking, what's the keir right to keir starmer right to take a swipe at trump his nato swipe at trump for his nato comments? it's time for comments? but next it's time for world view. get the latest world view. we'll get the latest on going on in the us. listening to gb news radio. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. don't forget, you can also stream the show live on youtube. i'm nana akua and it's time now for world view. donald trump has dipped his toes into the fashion business. the former us president announced his line of trump branded shoes at sneaker con this week . a pair of his con this week. a pair of his shoes will set you back $399, and this cash will come in handy for mr trump, who has been ordered by a judge to pay nearly $355 million to new york for state apparently lying about the value of his properties. travelling over now to america, let's speak to the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge, and find out the latest paul duddridge welcome on board trump loses his third new york civil case in nine months. yeah yep. >> uh, he's half $1 billion in the hole now go to new york. >> now, look, he says he's going to appeal all these cases. so two of these cases were the e jean carroll carroll okay. >> these cases , by the >> these are civil cases, by the way. not been guilty way. he's not been found guilty of any crimes. >> uh, two of the cases >> he uh, two of the cases e jean carroll that's about $100 million. >> and then this one, $350 million, you can't do business in new york for three years, either for, uh , absolute lawfare either for, uh, absolute lawfare going on. >> this is prosecuted by the new york attorney general who campaigned . campaigned. >> and her campaign slogan was , >> and her campaign slogan was, she's going to get trump before she's going to get trump before she even got into office. >> she knew. so the thing is , he >> she knew. so the thing is, he was at sneaker con , as you say, was at sneaker con, as you say, he literally has to either liquidate companies , borrow the liquidate companies, borrow the money to pay. >> he's going to appeal. all right. he's going to appeal the trick is he has to still put the money into court whilst these appeals are being heard. >> so ironically, he's half $1 billion in, uh, in the hole. he has to actually put about another $100 million into court. it's like 20 to 25% more. while the appeals are being heard. so he has to get a bond broker basically to, uh, and that's going to cost him 20. so he has to come up with like $100 million. just just just to, uh, tread water at this point . but tread water at this point. but it is an absolute abuse . it's an it is an absolute abuse. it's an abuse of the system . the most abuse of the system. the most pernicious lawfare that the us has ever witnessed . and even if has ever witnessed. and even if he wins, which he will, he'll ultimately win these on appeal. it ties this up. this is something you talked about weeks ago. it ties his hands financially . it ties his financially. it ties his businesses . he can't do business businesses. he can't do business for three years. it ties his hands financially. he can't even make money because his wealth is going to be tied up until these appeals are heard. so he's got his new so he's got his new speaker con, sort of a sneaker con thing where he's selling trainers . trainers. >> is this true? that can't be true . he's seriously selling true. he's seriously selling trainers for $399 to probably try and make some money there. >> well, listen, if you can get a pair, i've got a garage full of them . it's, uh. i think of them. it's, uh. i think they're called the no surrender. i think they're called no i think they're called the no surrender gold high surrender sneakers. gold high tops, and, uh, well, if the thing is, the thing is, these are going to sell, but they're only going to sell a few million. he literally does have to like at $100 to have, like, at least $100 million who's going to million cash. who's going to lend him money to actually appeal these cases ? he's in a appeal these cases? he's in a very, very financial sticky situation. >> i want a pair when if he does win , though, can he then sort of win, though, can he then sort of quash all this , or does he still quash all this, or does he still have to pay it? >> he can quash it. he will quash it. yes that will exactly, exactly what will happen ultimately. in the meantime , you ultimately. in the meantime, you have to come up with the cash and put it into the court. that's that's the trick . and that's that's the trick. and this look, never go this is how look, never go against city it's always against city hall. it's always going win the these, uh, this going to win the these, uh, this political class has got it in for him literally. i mean, this is the campaign letitia james, uh, ran was basically we've uh, ran on was basically we've got for trump. got it in for donald trump. yeah. he's going to win. but in the you cannot get the meantime, you cannot get hold of your own money. it is going in escrow for years. >> i want to ask you, because keir starmer made some comments >> i want to ask you, because keir regardr made some comments >> i want to ask you, because keir regard t01ade some comments >> i want to ask you, because keir regard to trumpyme comments >> i want to ask you, because keir regard to trump and comments >> i want to ask you, because keir regard to trump and kind1ents >> i want to ask you, because keir regard to trump and kind of|ts with regard to trump and kind of slightly insulted trump with trump's about 2% trump's comments about 2% of gdp, that you know, he gdp, and that he, you know, he would he sort of said to putin, come on, attack these countries that aren't paying, uh, has trump commented on keir starmer making an almost sort of comment about him, or has he even noficed about him, or has he even noticed ? noticed? >> well, i think what we know is that the leader of the opposition to donald trump is less important than a pair of gold high top sneakers, so he hasn't he hasn't yet, um, found time to comment on keir starmer's retort. uh, asked ing nato signatories to actually stick to their agreement to pay to the 2. so no, he hasn't, uh, he hasn't found time in his busy schedule yet to reply to keir starmer. but gosh, can you imagine if keir starmer was prime minister and trump is president? going to president? it's just going to be the best. mean, that's worth the best. i mean, that's worth that's price that's worth the price of admission alone. >> yeah . and very briefly, admission alone. >> hillaryeah . and very briefly, admission alone. >> hillary clinton|d very briefly, admission alone. >> hillary clinton and ry briefly, admission alone. >> hillary clinton and obamaly, uh, hillary clinton and obama are these what's going on there? we've got about a minute. okay. >> so trump's got a criminal case coming up on march 25th. okay the, uh, the famous, uh, whatever her name is, uh, porn star, uh, hush money, stormy daniels, that's going to be the first. stormy daniels is going to be the first criminal case. okay so now the hillary clinton, obama, both fined for spending campaign funds exactly the same way they were treated as misdemeanours and just given a fine 350,000, 100,000. trump is absolutely being treated as a as absolutely being treated as a as a felony . and it's a criminal a felony. and it's a criminal case. you're he is being accused of exactly the same thing in this march 25th case. and the point is, the reason it's relevant this week is that the date was confirmed. it's march 25th. the, uh, the president united states is going to be the very first time a president has been tried in a criminal case. i can't say ex—president. i'm sorry. >> no . well, you know, well, >> no. well, you know, well, he's making moves and shapes, and we're getting more action from than joe biden. paul from him than joe biden. paul duddridge, much. duddridge, thank you so much. that's duddridge, that's paul duddridge, host of the podcast. i'm the politics people podcast. i'm nana this is a gb news. nana akua this is a gb news. we're live on online on we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, my next great british debate. is starmer right to attack donald trump over his nato comments? and tuned for outside. my and stay tuned for outside. my guest restaurants guest is a chef with restaurants across london. he held a world record for the most pancake 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remember marco rubio lost some state back and back in 2016 florida to donald trump and marco rubio left the race. now, nikki haley says that she would in fact continue on, but zero history doesn't look too kind. and if you look at the polling fluoro, look here, choice for gop nominee nationally among the potential gop electorate look at this. this is even worse polling for nikki haley than what she sees in south carolina. donald trump up. now, i'm not exactly a math genius here, but this looks like 63 points to me according to quinnipiac, how about this? i guess a slightly closer margin, 58 points according the market university law school poll. so if nikki haley loses tomorrow, which by all accounts and purposes the poll suggests she will. that is just the start of a very rough journey, not just historically speaking, where no one's ever come back after losing their home state to be the nominee. but looking at the polling ahead nationally, it just gets even more rough for nikki haley going forward i mean, i i'm an eternal optimist. i'm a glass half full kind of person. would she have t

marco putzu , logan stewart and marco putzu, who were both 24, and 33 year old christopher ringrose, will appearin old christopher ringrose, will appear in court later. counter terrorism policing north east said it was part of a pre—planned intelligence led operation. a fourth man was also arrested last week but was released without charge and labour vows to tackle misogyny in schools if they win the next general election . the party will general election. the party will give teachers the tools to end the scourge of sexual harassment by young men, influenced by onune by young men, influenced by online misogyny . under new online misogyny. under new plans, boys will mentor young male pupils on how to call out misogyny in classrooms . recent misogyny in classrooms. recent data from ofsted found that the mention of the terms sexual harassment in schools grew by more than 3,000% between 2019 and 2022. shadow education education secretary bridget phillipson said it's a growing issue . issue. >> it is a big problem and the reports that i hear from students and staff alike is that this can involve bullying online of a of a sexual nature, misogynistic comments , but also, misogynistic comments, but also, sadly within the classroom as well. so sometimes towards staff or students it's unacceptable behaviours , physical behaviours, physical intimidation and misogynistic language and attitudes . and i language and attitudes. and i believe we've got a responsibility to. >> for the latest story , sign up >> for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to andrew and . bev now it's back to andrew and. bev >> good morning. it's 1006. now it's back to andrew and. bev >> good morning. it's1006. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. >> still got piers pottinger . >> still got piers pottinger. you're with us and we've got kulveer singh here, who is, of course, a conservative covid. let's talk to you about what paul said. are there paul scully said. are there parts london birmingham parts of london and birmingham that areas? that are no go areas? >> don't believe so. >> i don't believe so. >> i don't believe so. >> you know, everyone can have their own opinion and their own experience his experience and paul may have his view, but a born bred view, but as a born bred londoner , having worked for the londoner, having worked for the mayor of london, at which point we travelled to every corner of london, because you do want to see what's going on and it has been some time since then. we have strong communities, have good, strong communities, we areas communities we have areas where communities flourish, but i don't think there any no go areas, there are any no go areas, especially with the amount of gentrification in gentrification we've seen in and around london. there a perception? >> there is, though, that people think, i don't to go there think, i don't want to go there because all more because it's all it's more ethnic than than white people think about tower hamlets. yes. london borough of newham. >> i've seen whenever i've been to those areas. yeah and i think of places like west london, southall where i grew up , the southall where i grew up, the high population of indian or asian background, people , people asian background, people, people embrace that different cultures, creeds embrace the now we're in a generation where the food, the music, the culture is embraced as part of the vibrancy of london, the diversity of london. we are seen as probably the most successful global city when it comes to cultures living jointly together and celebrating each other, enjoying now, whether it's holidays, whether it's the food, whether it's the traditions, the amount of celebrations we have to represent and recognise different communities. i think that's a huge positive. i have not seen . we saw it, andrew, and not seen. we saw it, andrew, and you all remember, you know, the 80s. yeah. there were areas of london south london, brixton comes to mind . southall, there comes to mind. southall, there were riots in the 70s. we do not live in that time with that kind of tension , and i don't of tension, and i don't recognise that there are problems where people go . problems where people go. >> there clearly is tension though, because even just seeing the public response to what lee anderson has said and it feels like there is a huge division between what we might call , between what we might call, let's say, the political elite who who live in beautiful houses in areas and they can afford to pick where they want to live. and if they don't want to live in a multicultural area, they don't have to. and those who might have lived in an area for a long time, who feel that they don't recognise high don't recognise their high street types of street because of the types of shops and perhaps even, you know, got in london. know, we've got roads in london. i'm thinking particularly of like the edgware where you like the edgware road where you drive actually , drive down and, and actually, funnily you're in a fog. funnily enough, you're in a fog. often but often your fog of those, but also perhaps the shisha bars, but also the language on the shopsis but also the language on the shops is often in arabic that unsettles people. calvin we need to somehow work out how to have the conversation about incorporating people from different cultures without alienating those born and bred british. >> yes, and i recognise that if some people would feel uncomfortable with that and actually, spread the actually, let's spread the conversation london conversation out from london because viewers not because your viewers are not london we're talking london centric. we're talking about britain here, and i recognise that in some of our cities, as there is a very high density of cultures that have emerged in some of our midlands and northern cities in the blink of an eye, within the last 5 to 10 years, i think it's taken a bit longer than that. i think it has taken a bit longer there. there may have been an acceleration in visibility, but that has been part of, i would say, success of modern say, the success of modern britain, because then we look at our establishment, our political establishment, and this when this is why i have an issue when people say, what is the modern conservative party? modern conservative party? the modern conservative party is the party of sunak cleverly sajid javid priti patel, you know, priti patel . and this is the success patel. and this is the success of a 20 year period where the party changed. i was part of involved in that change, not as driving it, but definitely of a consequence of it, because i was the sort of thing that michael howard, david cameron, francis maude saw the need for the political party, the conservative party, to represent all of britain and it did do. and that's why has been and still is the most successful party in this country. >> what about policing? because we about policing. we were talking about policing. there a real crisis over there is a real crisis over policing country. people policing in this country. people don't are doing policing in this country. people don'tjob. are doing policing in this country. people don'tjob. we are doing policing in this country. people don'tjob. we saw are doing policing in this country. people don'tjob. we saw the are doing their job. we saw the disgraceful anti—semitic trope projected last projected onto big ben last week. the police abided nothing about it. and then we see on the front mail today, the front of the mail today, the gaza protests mean police gaza protests mean the police cannot their £25 cannot do their job. £25 million. how do the government, how they resolve this dilemma how do they resolve this dilemma ? to police these. ? they've got to police these. we've to allow we've got to allow these marches, haven't because marches, haven't we? because that's democracy. >> mean, trouble we've >> i mean, the trouble is we've got politicised police force got a politicised police force in the country now with in parts of the country now with sadiq , a labour mayor in sadiq khan, a labour mayor in charge of the london metropolitan police, for example, which is crazy. london's always had demonstrations and protests . demonstrations and protests. it's going back a long, long time. and so there's nothing and people have a right to protest within reason. the problem is that's been really , i think, that's been really, i think, taken far too far by the pro—palestinian protests happening every weekend . ed and happening every weekend. ed and it is costing them a lot of money. but generally the police seem to have given up on crime, what we would call crime or i would things like burglary , would things like burglary, theft, breaking into your sort , theft, breaking into your sort, all of this kind of stuff. they admit they're not even bothering to chase them up. now, something is fundamentally wrong here. and once you start, this is the thin end of the wedge and the thin blue line is getting thinner by the minute, because then i can't remember when i live in tooting, a very diverse and wonderful place , fantastic place to live . place, fantastic place to live. um, but i mean , i can't remember um, but i mean, i can't remember when i last saw a policeman on on the street just passing by. and as we know, that wonderful town up in the north that had put a policeman back on the beat, one bobby back on the beat and he halved crime. yes in a yeah and he halved crime. yes in a year. but just by being there and visible. yeah but we don't have the police now. again, they always talk about money. everyone always blames . they everyone always blames. they want more money. they want more money. sometimes you need to actually think about the problem and how you're going to manage the problem, rather than just throw money at it. that goes from the for the police, that goes for the um, you know, goes for the nhs. um, you know, it takes more than just throwing money at a problem to resolve it. >> well, actually, they had the money, the metropolitan police had the money from the government to recruit officers. i was to talking the minister for policing, philp, last for policing, chris philp, last week he said the week on this, and he said the metropolitan police sadiq khan was did was given the money. they did not the officers. they not recruit the officers. they failed recruitment and failed in the recruitment and the to other the money has gone to other forces they're not forces because they're not utilising and this and utilising money. and this and the other key thing here to remember of the 43 police remember out of the 43 police forces across the country , the forces across the country, the metropolitan police is the worst performing i'm hearing performing. i'm hearing this from police minister, chris from the police minister, chris philp. so sadiq khan, who is directly responsible for safety and security of londoners, is failing at that role. and this is when we talk about the is why when we talk about the outcomes, the problems in our streets, if we don't have a police force, performing, police force, that's performing, is of is giving clear direction of what is not given the what to do, is not given the resources by the mayor. >> i think got a problem >> i think we've got a problem with colvin one with your mike colvin just one second. that that amount that second. so that that amount that the services london the police services in london got last 12 months, got for the last 12 months, piers, is 4.5 pretty much billion . not a lot of billion pound. not a lot of money. huge amount of money. it's a huge amount of money. it's a huge amount of money you put in that money when you put it in that context, actually £25 million to allow still maintain allow us to still maintain peaceful protest. sounds like quite a small amount of money to me. >> of course it is. >> and i mean, it's just a question of managing the funds. and as you've just said, it's clearly not being done properly. and, you know, the problem is, as i said, if you make sadiq khanin as i said, if you make sadiq khan in charge of the metropolitan police, you're going to have a disaster. >> so when you take the politics out of it, you should take, of course. should the police should be not political. >> well, what do you mean by he's politicised? >> it? in what way? he's politicised? >> well, what way? he's politicised? >> well, he, at way? he's politicised? >> well, he, sadiq? he's politicised? >> well, he, sadiq khan has focussed police on hate focussed the police on hate crimes, on things that that i mean he spent a fortune advertising on the underground. >> don't stare , don't look don't >> don't stare, don't look don't i mean, what on earth is he doing? so instead of actually having people solve theft, solve burglary , make them feel safer burglary, make them feel safer in their houses. >> so he's the thought police crime rate has gone shooting up under sadiq khan, and he's done nothing about it. yeah. >> have we got a problem with covid? um. um, mike, we've got a problem with your mike colvin. >> unfortunately, we can hear you, but i don't think the viewers can. >> the viewers can hearjust >> the viewers can hear just quickly. post office quickly. the post office chairman, chairman is chairman, former chairman is before committee mps. before the committee of mps. today, put up or today, he's got to put up or shut about this allegation shut up about this allegation on. yes. ministers are deliberately. stonewalled. >> thin ice here >> he's on very thin ice here because, um, not only did the senior civil servant who he claimed had told him these things outright deny it, which is very rare to do that publicly . but also his chief executive , . but also his chief executive, nick reed, has has basically written to the select committee and disowned him. and also said there was no indication of him being asked to drag their feet on compensation or any indication of this. staunton's indication of this. staunton's in got a real problem and there's going to be quite, i think, a punch up in the select committee today between reed and staunton, who clearly now should be decided the same. just try and protect what's left of their own reputations. >> we shouldn't and what we shouldn't forget, piers and covid is this the postmaster supposedly still got supposedly still haven't got their compensation, of course, and the number one and that's the number one priority and should be. >> i don't >> and quite frankly, i don't think anyone has much sympathy for anyone at the very top end of the post office or the ministers who were responsible, like ed davey. don't let us forget that the lib dem piers pottinger lord colville. >> and we're so sorry. microphone lost your mic. i have so many questions i wanted to ask you this morning. right. uh, still to come this morning. apparently, labour think that andrew misogynist, andrew tate is misogynist, right. going to right. and that he's going to mean that your children grow up misogynists. apparently misogynists. and apparently labour you labour are going to save you from this fate. what a load of nonsense. don't go anywhere. this is britain's newsroom on nottingham forest are going to get your listening to gb news radio . radio. >> very good morning britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and bev turner. we've got nigel nelson in the studio with us and tanya buxton. um, now are we the first morning both morning . first morning both morning. >> sorry, i was racing ahead. >> sorry, i was racing ahead. >> there's always a very packed show. we have a lot to fit in. right, andrew tate, he is. if you don't know who he is, he is an influencer. are familiar an influencer. are you familiar with am okay. with andrew tate? i am okay. there'll a lot of who there'll be a lot of people who may be familiar. may not be familiar. >> you've been banned from various parts of social media, >> you've been banned from varhas parts of social media, >> you've been banned from varhas to. rts of social media, he has to. >> also he was also >> he's also he was also arrested, wasn't he, for or not charged? not charged. let's keep that. charged? not charged. let's keep that . yeah. that. yeah. >> um, he's got old fashioned views on women. they should be kept at home. he's very kept at home. he's got very traditional views and they certainly tread into the area that you might think it would take your breath away. >> as a feminist, when you hear some of the things got some of the things he's got to say. this is what shadow say. but this is what shadow education secretary bridget phillipson him and phillipson said about him and boys. school , boys. therefore, at school, behaving like they don't particularly girls, it is a particularly like girls, it is a big problem and the reports that ihear big problem and the reports that i hear from students and staff alike is that this can involve bullying online of a of a sexual nature , misogynistic comments, nature, misogynistic comments, but also sadly within the classroom as well . classroom as well. >> so sometimes towards staff or students unacceptable behaviours , physical intimidation and misogynistic language and attitudes . and i believe we've attitudes. and i believe we've got a responsibility to tackle it . it. >> there's sort of some truth in what she's saying, nigel nelson, but they've got this all. they've got this completely wrong. go on. >> why they got it wrong? >> why they got it wrong? >> why they got it wrong? >> why have they got it wrong? because this is not a simple as saying boys are being misogynistic. start, misogynistic. for a start, define misogynistic. can't define misogynistic. you can't use without use a word like that without explaining this isn't boys explaining it. this isn't boys that hate girls. andrew tate doesn't women. very much doesn't hate women. he very much would loves women, would appear, loves women, but he them stay at he does expect them to stay at home he goes out and makes money. >> yeah, i mean, there's a problem with andrew is it problem with andrew tate. is it goes further than that. i mean, he's an unapologetic sexist. he's homophobe. he he recently he's a homophobe. he he recently he was talking about the nazi party, weren't quite that bad. he's he's a real right winger. >> he's a proper bit small conservative. >> well small c conservative. but his attitude to women would would suit saudi arabia rather than rather than a western nation. >> and there are some women who adore him. let me tell you , he adore him. let me tell you, he has a i mean, i'm not going to i'll an audience. i'll be an audience. >> doesn't doesn't expect >> he doesn't he doesn't expect women no , no, no, no. women to be no, no, no, no. >> when say saudi arabia, >> when i say saudi arabia, i mean, he doesn't like them driving. for instance, they ought at home. they ought to stay at home. they belong the they belong to the belong to the they belong to the man. so the whole point there is that following that he's got a huge following on media. you're probably on social media. you're probably right. women actually right. some women actually actually do him, though. actually do like him, though. the how the question obviously is how you kids who are you deal with with kids who are seeing this and what you do about it and what bridget phillipson is saying is that they they should have some kind of mentors in school . so rather of mentors in school. so rather than take their phones away because impossible . because this is impossible. >> sorry, older boys to mentor younger boys. yes. how does that work? >> well, i mean, the whole the idea would be it's not totally clear how this policy will work , clear how this policy will work, funnily enough, which is not unusual for the labour party. i appreciate , um, but the idea is appreciate, um, but the idea is to have some someone there who's actually helping negotiate , actually helping them negotiate, hate the internet , right. so hate the internet, right. so when this kind of stuff comes up , you can actually talk to the kids about it, about the attitudes . attitudes. >> they say that it's not the government's place to bring up our sons. our soi'is. >> our sons. >> i have two sons and two daughters, and it's not the government's place to teach them how to women or not to how to respect women or not to respect women. this whole respect women. and as this whole thing he . yes, i mean, i'm thing about he. yes, i mean, i'm not you know, i've looked at some of this when he originally came andrew tate, came out. andrew tate, i thought, know, thought, oh gosh, you know, finally kind of male finally we've got a kind of male role for our you role model for our boys. you know, one my sons is a is know, one of my sons is a is a boxer. he's very, very masculine. so polite, has never said no or raised his voice to me i can imagine, i don't me ever. i can imagine, i don't know, many 18 year are like know, many 18 year olds are like that mothers so that with their mothers so polite. but you know, he's a bit of an alpha y. i mean, some of the things that andrew has done have but have gone down that way, but i don't think he should be held up as responsible for what's going on, on is the fact on, what's going on is the fact that we have that we don't we have a breakdown of british traditions and family, and no one's and british family, and no one's got look. so they're got anywhere to look. so they're looking to these extreme guys. that's happening that's what's happening now. you know, son said to me know, boys, my son said to me that of time when that a lot of the time when they're in religious studies, that a lot of the time when they'iit'sl religious studies, that a lot of the time when they'iit's calledyus studies, that a lot of the time when they'iit's called hsi;tudies, that a lot of the time when they'iit's called hsi;turwhatever what it's called hsi or whatever it's now, he puts it's called now, he he puts personal health and social education, it. education, all of it. >> it really he literally >> is it really he literally says he puts his earphones in because it's so woo and so because it's so woo woo and so wah wah and so not realistic in life. not going to it's >> and he's not going to it's just gone far. and so just it's gone too far. and so they have switched off. they are what they're learning at school has them off. you know has switched them off. you know the that learning the things that they're learning at man is a a at school a man is a woman a woman is a man. this and you can be a and all the rubbish be a cat and all the rubbish that's through has that's coming through now has switched but isn't switched them off. but isn't that they're turning to that why they're turning to people andrew? people like andrew? >> that why to >> isn't that why actually to train peers take some train their peers to take some kind of role in this? it's not such a bad idea if they're switching off to the mainstream. >> are these >> are, you know, are these people these that people are these kids that are so they are elements? so wide they are elements? >> where are they learning it from? >> yeah, there are elements of andrew tate. says, he's andrew tate. as tony says, he's clean about clean living. he's all about don't drink, don't he does smoke cigars sometimes. don't drink, don't drugs. the gym. don't do drugs. go to the gym. he says, look after your physical and mental health he says, look after your physihard.|d mental health he says, look after your physihard.|d is mental health he says, look after your physihard.|d is thattal health he says, look after your physihard.|d is that is health he says, look after your physihard.|d is that is aealth he says, look after your physihard.|d is that is a lot h work hard. that is that is a lot of can say that i know of can i just say that i know enough girls in their mid 20s now are who are sick to now who are who are sick to death of working okay and are sick to death the fact that sick to death with the fact that they're sure when they're they're not sure when they're going be able get a decent going to be able to get a decent amount of money, get married, have that's have children, because that's what do. what they want to do. >> were sold a lie >> because we were sold a lie that we could a full career that we could have a full career and have children and do it all on our own. we cannot. and i know a lot of young girls who would love a man to come in and say, sweetie, you stay say, you know, sweetie, you stay at home, you look sexy. by the time i home, cook my dinner time i get home, cook my dinner and i will provide funding. >> it is that you? >> i know it is that you? >> i know it is that you? >> it wouldn't. it would not work with my wife. >> sort of joking, >> we're sort of joking, but there's there a there's a there is a conversation to be had that tanya explains there brilliantly. >> is a conversation that >> there is a conversation that we have to have about roles, and it be boys can stay at it can be that boys can stay at home, can stay at home and home, men can stay at home and raise children. can raise their children. and it can be that women stay at home be that women can stay at home and raise their children, sure, but we have stop this but we have to stop this assumption you can all assumption that you can all do everything. agree with that. >> totally. but this is the whole point, isn't that it's whole point, isn't it? that it's not idea of actually not the idea of actually assigning role assigning a specific role to a woman or a man, traditional woman or to a man, traditional or not. the whole point is that you should be able to do both things, but not all things. and you're things, but not all things. and youthey're so old fashioned. i'd >> they're so old fashioned. i'd rather the shadow education rather hear the shadow education secretary talking about how she's improve standards secretary talking about how sh schools. improve standards in schools. >> matthew that's what >> matthew laza that's what i really like to hear her talking about. >> 100% getting in, getting kids better english and better with english and arithmetic and improving them. isn't to hear isn't that what we want to hear from we have months for a general. >> we have the uptake second >> we have the uptake of second languages any other country. languages of any other country. >> think the world it's >> i think in the world it's just another example of labour fiddling edges. fiddling at the edges. >> i'm afraid. well, >> yeah, i'm afraid. well, i mean, this is only actually one particular of of particular aspect of an of an education policy the education policy in all the papers let's talk about papers today. let's talk about why can't add up. why more kids can't add up. >> yeah, but i mean, there's no reason why you can't have this as well as that. you improve education. do. education. sure you do. >> signalling. education. sure you do. >> want signalling. education. sure you do. >> want to nalling. education. sure you do. >> want to know g. education. sure you do. >> want to know how she's >> i want to know how she's going improve education. i'm going to improve education. i'm not she's not interested in how she's going know, these going to, you know, get these rail male role models in. and it's just not going to happen. it's just going to happen. it's just not going to happen. >> other thing as well, >> the other thing is, as well, if want to create young men if you want to create young men that so good about that feel so good about themselves they don't have that feel so good about th> it's not all about andrew tate. it's not all about andrew tate. it's not all about andrew tate. bear in mind, i mean, the things that you're talking. >> him has ruined >> you mentioned him has ruined her yeah. she had her argument. yeah. if she had just well, he's just stuck to well, he's probably of the famous probably one of the most famous influencers probably one of the most famous inflso 1cers probably one of the most famous inflso that's that's why he's >> so that's that's why he's used an we've got to used as an example. we've got to talk about another influencer, prince harry. >> donald trump planning >> what is donald trump planning ? have done very ? telegraph have done a very interesting piece about this today think it's fascinating. >> yeah, they have i'm broadly what he's doing is he's what is what he's doing is he's saying um, harry's his saying that, um, harry's on his own when comes to down his own when it comes to down his visa application. there's a big row going on in america the row going on in america at the moment. happening, moment. a court case happening, uh, they're trying uh, in which they're trying to make visa application, um, make his visa application, um, pubuc make his visa application, um, public work and arguing. it's in pubuc public work and arguing. it's in public interest to do so. and the reason for that is that harry, in his book, 'spare, confessed to taking marijuana magic mushrooms and cocaine . magic mushrooms and cocaine. that, of course, would be a problem for his visa going into america. well, it would be a block . well, not a total block. block. well, not a total block. you can actually, if you're asked on your visa application form, have you taken drugs and you say, yes, there is a possibility of getting a waiver. um, and the argument at the moment, a rather strange argument going on in the, in the us courts is that they're saying that, um, his defence is saying which is supported by president biden , that just because he's biden, that just because he's talked about this in a book, it's not proof he took drugs. >> so he lied in his book. >> so he lied in his book. >> well, that's he lied somewhere. so he lied about it's somewhere. so he lied about it's so it's a bit it's a bit of a weird defence. i don't think that i would actually employ the lawyers doing that. lawyers who are doing that. >> not going to. it's >> trump is not going to. it's going to cut no ice with trump. >> cut no ice. >> it's going to cut no ice. because of course, meghan markle went on to was oprah's show went on to was it oprah's show and that, you know, if and said that, you know, if trump gets in as trump gets voted in as president, i'm going to consider living and pack her living in canada and pack her bags. let's be trump bags. well, let's he'll be trump will be packing her bags and he doesn't care. you know, ultimately liar. we ultimately harry's a liar. we know liar. he's actually know he's a liar. he's actually stating now he's a liar. he's admitting so, know, admitting to it. so, you know, you're once. you're you're a liar once. you're a liar forever. yeah. >> and therefore he's not saying is a liar. >> no, that's not that's not quite fair. >> think. >> i think. yeah. >> i think. yeah. >> you say well, he's one or >> if you say well, he's one or the other, you took cocaine. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> but then you're saying you didn't. no no. >> hang on. no no, no, he's not saying what he's saying is saying that. what he's saying is that want his his that he doesn't want his his visa made public. it visa application made public. it may say on that visa application he got waiver he got the waiver having admitted taking drugs, right. >> eat my hat if >> no, i, i would eat my hat if that was the case. >> i think i will buy you a hat for that purpose. >> you buy that. >> you buy me that. >> you buy me that. >> trump is saying all bets >> but trump is saying all bets are off if he becomes if all bets because he says he he disrespected the queen. >> well, i think he feels so upset the queen you upset for the queen because, you know, think about the know, if you think about the queen's last years, they in queen's last years, they were in turmoil reasons. but turmoil for many reasons. but mainly because of harry and meghan. >> i wu- e u think it can >> yeah, i don't think it can have done anything for have helped done anything for her health. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> all the king's current king's health. >> right. nigel tonya, thank you for now. we've leave it for now. we've got to leave it there for we're going to there for now. we're going to get very latest headlines get the very latest headlines with wenzler. she is. >> thanks, bev. it's 1030. is. >> thanks, bev. it's1030. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . ministers are refusing newsroom. ministers are refusing to call a suspended tory mps. comments. 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export market has grown . um, so export market has grown. um, so we've had a nice growth on that point, but also we've had good sustained business on on a uk bafis sustained business on on a uk basis as well. >> now, obviously you've been a uk company for over 40 years, so what's it been like through them years ? years? >> everybody's had their ups and downs and we're no different. >> but since the oh eight crash we we're right back up to the same sort of figures, if not more. >> so we've had certainly really good growth over the last certainly ten years. so what's this year been like for you ? this year been like for you? >> good, good. >> good, good. >> we've, uh, we've seen some, some work certainly coming from the defence side of things with the defence side of things with the political situation as it stands at the minute , there's stands at the minute, there's been spending on on defence this year and that will certainly continue into the future . continue into the future. >> and obviously we've talked about how much you export. so what work do you actually do and what work do you actually do and what industries do you work in. >> it's all basically petrochemical, oil refinery , uh, petrochemical, oil refinery, uh, nuclear, which with hinkley point coming on, uh, coming on soon, that's been good for us. there's hopefully going to be sizewell c coming up. and that should be good for us as well. now just last question. >> obviously there's a lot of bad news in uk manufacturing. but how are you finding it as a business owner. >> it's been it's been difficult at certain things have have given us some challenges, but i think those challenges are the same the world over. i think , same the world over. i think, you know, generally uk manufacturing is in a fairly good. radio. >> very good morning. >> very good morning. >> it's 1038. this is >> very good morning. >> it's1038. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with jk rowling, one of our favourite authors. >> bev and i, we don't agree on much, but we agree on jk rowling. she's waded into another trans row after criticising like another trans row after criti bbcg like another trans row after critibbc for like another trans row after critibbc for failing like another trans row after critibbc for failing to like another trans row after critibbc for failing to make; the bbc for failing to make clear the convicted murderer and cat killer called scarlet blake. blake is a transgender woman. she tweeted . she tweeted. >> she tweeted um, this is not a woman. this is because if you're listening on the radio, sky news put out a tweet saying breaking news. a woman who filmed herself killing a cat before putting the animal in a blender has been jailed. jk rowling tweeted jailed. and jk rowling tweeted this woman. these are this is not a woman. these are not our crimes. this is not a woman. these are not our crimes . and that, as we not our crimes. and that, as we saw , there is scarlett blake. so saw, there is scarlett blake. so and scarlett blake has been convicted and is going to a prison , a male prison for men. prison, a male prison for men. >> so let's bring in human rights and lgbt campaigner peter tatchell. >> good morning, peter taylor. great to see you. thank you so much. you were the top of the list of the people we wanted to talk to about this today, because we know that you normally launch a very fierce defence scarlett blake defence of why scarlett blake should called by the should be called a woman by the media. explain >> a very strong >> well, i'm a very strong support of trans human rights. i think equality and respect for trans people is absolutely paramount . trans people is absolutely paramount. but in this case, i think those media outlets got it wrong . quite clearly, scarlett wrong. quite clearly, scarlett should have been described correctly as a trans woman, not as a woman. so i don't often agree with jk rowling , but on agree with jk rowling, but on this instance, she's right . this instance, she's right. >> so. >> so. >> but here we go. so the editor of the guardian, peter tatchell, and the editor of sky news are probably sat there with their handsin probably sat there with their hands in their heads right now saying, peter tatchell, it's because of you that have now because of you that we have now changed linguistic guide changed our linguistic guide book.so changed our linguistic guide book. so what? how did they get it wrong and why? >> well, it's not because of me. i've never said that, uh, that trans women are women. i've always said trans women are trans women. yeah they are women, but not the same as other women. and that difference needs to be mentioned and emphasised , to be mentioned and emphasised, not exaggerated, not demonised , not exaggerated, not demonised, used. but it is a difference. and i think there's a clear difference between a biological woman that is women who are women based on their biology, particularly their chromosomal sex, and women who are based on their gender identity. those are two different things. they're equally valid , but they are equally valid, but they are different. and in cases where it is relevant of course it should be mentioned that someone is trans or not trans . trans or not trans. >> as i listened specifically to the news at one yesterday, peter on the bbc, i listened back to it. so the presenter in the studio referred to scarlett blake the whole time as a woman and the reporter outside the court case who'd covering court case who'd been covering that day in and day out. that case day in and day out. woman. no mention at all of transgender women. i think that's actually dishonest reporting . reporting. >> well, i agree , i agree. we >> well, i agree, i agree. we shouldn't make a big hoo ha over trans people committing crimes because most crimes are committed not by trans people, but by non trans people. but when it comes to reporting the facts , it's clear that scarlett facts, it's clear that scarlett blake is a trans woman. and that's the way it should be reported. and that's not demonising trans people. it's just simply stating the facts. and i think if we don't state the facts, then we leave ourselves open to valid criticism. yeah. >> so who has got it wrong here? who, who and why? peter, have we got editors of signifying media news outlets ? it's getting news outlets? it's getting something so factual wrong. who would be complaining if they described scarlett blake as a trans woman ? trans woman? >> well, i think the desire to be sensitive and respectful to trans people led to scarlett being simply described as a woman. the media outlets obviously didn't want to highlight the fact that, um, scarlett was trans. um, they didn't want to make that a big issue . so they simply said, um , issue. so they simply said, um, scarlett was a woman. now i think that was a mistake . and it think that was a mistake. and it actually , it feeds the culture actually, it feeds the culture wars, if we're not honest . you wars, if we're not honest. you know, trans women are trans women. we need to say that that's not being disrespectful. it's acknowledging the facts. and if we try and bury the reality, then i think, you know, we're just opening ourselves to valid criticism and concern and concern . it just it feeds it concern. it just it feeds it feeds transphobia. if we aren't being honest. and that's i'm 100% supporting trans human rights. but i think, you know , rights. but i think, you know, in this case, in all cases , a in this case, in all cases, a person's biological sex or gender identity where relevant, needs to be mentioned . and i needs to be mentioned. and i think this particular case clearly , she was she was a trans clearly, she was she was a trans woman . woman. >> we've got to leave it. >> we've got to leave it. >> thank you peter. >> thank you peter. >> voice of common sense. >> voice of common sense. >> yeah, absolutely. good well, hopefully the pendulum swings a little back the studio. little bit back in the studio. >> your microphone >> we've got your microphone sorted lord ranger sorted now. lord, lord ranger called coverage former vice bofis called coverage former vice boris johnson. we were talking called coverage former vice boris _no1son. we were talking called coverage former vice boris _no �*isoi areas were talking called coverage former vice boris _no1s0iareas earlier,lking about no go areas earlier, weren't we? can i ask you weren't we? covid can i ask you a question? you're a a personal question? you're a prominent your prominent sikh. what about your own experiences no go? how own experiences of no go? how much racism have you experienced? >> i'm very proud to be a born and bred londoner. this is a city of my birth and i've had the privilege of working for it as well. when i worked for the mayor. but growing up in the 80s, difficult. um we 80s, it was difficult. um we weren't allowed out at night because our parents would be scared about what would happen to us under the cover of darkness. you'd be attacked. you could. there could be violence . could. there could be violence. there know, gangs. yes there were, you know, gangs. yes yes. racism. pure, blatant racism. and you had to live with that. you didn't quite understand why we were restricted, but we knew we wouldn't go out. wouldn't wouldn't go out. i wouldn't go to or i wouldn't be to watch or i wouldn't be allowed by my parents to go and watch beloved local then watch my beloved local then third brentford . third division team, brentford. i'm fan, but i'm a tottenham fan, but brentford were my local club because they were afraid. now brentford family brentford is a great family football has that football club. it has that tradition but back in the tradition but back then in the 80s tradition but back then in the 805 it tradition but back then in the 80s it was difficult to be on the terraces a as a young the terraces and as a as a young asian boy with a with a sort of bubble on. and if i was allowed to go, it would be if i went with some white friends. i've had bricks thrown at me in newcastle when i went on a sikh camp there. i've had i've been hauled a plane in manchester hauled off a plane in manchester for, for acting suspiciously for, um, for acting suspiciously at gunpoint. i was particularly concerned at that moment where six of manchester's finest were standing there with guns pointed at me. now, this, this is that was actually post the 9/11 penod was actually post the 9/11 period as well, was a sort of racial profiling going on. but these incidents happened through these incidents happened through the 80s and 90s. but what i'm proud about is that they don't happen now. they don't they're not a regular occurrence. people from different communities are not afraid to go out at night and not afraid to. mick's not afraid to go to any other area to be part of a broader community of londoners and actually britain. and i think we have to reflect on how far we've come. >> yeah, and it's great. we've got a hindu prime minister we've got a hindu prime minister we've got you in the houses. but i know i wrote this story know this. i wrote this story about you all know about lord woolley. you all know lord he was very, very, lord woolley. he was very, very, very bold in the campaign to get more he more black people to vote. he told three, three times when told me three, three times when he was in the house of lords, he was confused for a member of staff he was asked by a very staff and he was asked by a very elderly peer, could you do some photocopying man? photocopying for me, young man? three times. now a form three times. now that's a form of a sense, isn't it? of racism in a sense, isn't it? because assume because he's because they assume because he's a he must be a black man, he must be a servant. but member of staff. >> a form of profiling, >> it's a form of profiling, i would don't think that would say. i don't think that happens now. >> fairly recently, but >> that was fairly recently, but but woolley, know, he but simon woolley, you know, he was the main reasons was one of the main reasons i got involved politics because got involved in politics because he and michael howard held a speech burnley when michael speech in burnley when michael howard of howard first became leader of the party because the conservative party because of tension there the conservative party because of there. tension there was there. >> and michael howard wanted to confront i up to that confront that. i went up to that speech. took a day off work. speech. i took a day off work. i wasn't politically active , and wasn't politically active, and you see the extremists you could see the extremists from right that were from the far right that were there that day , and you have to there that day, and you have to walk that line to face that kind of anger to get to where we face that down. >> the other thing, the only other with other thing we're dealing with now, we've got these pressure on the and conservative the labour mps and conservative mps last week, literally mps last week, which literally changed process changed our democratic process in country , which in this country, which is not good. middle yes, we've good. middle east, yes, we've got batley still got a teacher in batley still in hiding who can't out hiding who can't come out because he taught something which the local islamic community, um , considered to be community, um, considered to be anti—muslim . so as lovely as anti—muslim. so as lovely as this sounds, and thank goodness it isn't like the 80s, there are still issues which let's call them , i don't know, indigenous, them, i don't know, indigenous, white, christian people. it's not necessarily about melanin . not necessarily about melanin. it's even necessarily about it's not even necessarily about religion. those people feel religion. but those people feel that there is something going on that there is something going on that making them frightened. that is making them frightened. >> interesting. >> i think it's interesting. there always be what there will always be what people will as a block vote. will think of as a block vote. it used to said that labour it used to be said that labour had the asian vote. that's right. when i grew up, when i first came out as a tory people, my asian community would look at me as almost how dare you? there was a sort of indelible link between us and the labour party. don't ask me why, but but i think we're in a new generation where, yes, growing demographic mix, different communities may feel that they are aligned in mass in bloc with a certain actually, it's not a party now. it's policy . but actually, it's not a party now. it's policy. but i think this is the change of democracy that we have to look to adjust. and our politicians have to be strong to hold the policies that hold on to the policies that they in and, and work they believe in and, and work with communities to make with those communities to make sure they understand the to sure they understand the need to covid, so much, as covid, thank you so much, as always, to him. always, very good to see him. >> very up next, prince >> very good. up next, prince of wales out of wales has pulled out of attending the memorial service for constantine of for the late king constantine of greece at windsor castle due to a personal matter. not sure whether be able tell whether we'll be able to tell you but we might be you what it is, but we might be able britain's able to. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. this is. listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back. so some breaking news in the last few moments. prince william has pulled out of his godfather's memorial service for personal reasons. cameron walker is here. what do we know? yeah really, really odd. >> prince william was meant to be doing reading saint be doing a reading at saint george's chapel in windsor. the memorial service, as you say, for his godfather, king constantine of greece. the king was attend. was also meant to attend. but because cancer, pulled because of cancer, he's pulled out. but prince william's pulled out. but prince william's pulled out at the very last minute as well. completely unexpected. expectedly be expectedly he was meant to be there. assured that the there. i'm assured that the princess continues princess of wales is continues to so she's sick and we to do well, so she's sick and we still don't know what's wrong with no, know with her. no, we don't know what's wrong her. she's not what's wrong with her. she's not expected be in public until expected to be in public until easter, but kensington palace have personal, a personal have cited personal, a personal reason as to why prince william has pulled out last minute. now they refuse to into any they refuse to go into any further detail on that other than to confirm or reassure us that princess is fine, but that the princess is fine, but it seems incredibly strange it just seems incredibly strange that something which clearly would the diary for would have been in the diary for months and months and months for his godfather, was his godfather, where he was due to reading. presumably to give a reading. so presumably his is printed. prince his name is printed. prince william's is printed on the william's name is printed on the order of service. he's pulled out so last minute, and out quite so last minute, and the was close to king constantine. >> he was a great friend. >> he was a great friend. >> and absolutely, as was >> yeah, and absolutely, as was the king, because, of course, they cousins. was they were second cousins. he was king was prince king constantine was also prince philip's partner as philip's sailing partner as well, in the olympics, and he was obviously lived in london for 50 years when he was for 50 odd years when he was deposed 1960s from deposed in the 1960s from greece. it just strikes me greece. but it just strikes me that incredibly odd that that it's incredibly odd that the heirs of the throne, bearing in mind father has cancer so in mind his father has cancer so should be one of the most senior royals going, has pulled out last minute, which means it's probably serious probably quite a serious personal people will personal issue and people will now inevitably speculate. >> health issue too? >> well, exactly. i mean, he might just have a or might may just have a cold or something. would say something. and they would say that he's got a that normally if he's got a i mean, you know, we're not living in the covid era anymore. >> that used to the card that >> that used to be the card that people pulled when wanted people pulled when they wanted to something. no to get out of something. no well, if he was ill, well, you know, if he was ill, surely they would say, say, because, maybe they can't surely they would say, say, bec.he's maybe they can't surely they would say, say, bec.he's unwellnaybe they can't surely they would say, say, bec.he's unwell because ay can't surely they would say, say, bec.he's unwell because then 1't say he's unwell because then everyone for the everyone goes there for the falling like flies. well, exactly. >> and you mentioned covid, bev actually, fact actually, they kept the fact that prince william had covid very in 2020. in he very quiet in 2020. in fact, he was than his father, was more ill than his father, prince charles, when it prince charles, when he had it to stop this panic. and of course, had so many course, you've had so many health royal health issues with the royal family recently, if it is family recently, even if it is just a cold. and kensington palace confirmed that, you palace confirmed that, as you say, start panicking. say, we'd all start panicking. >> you have precedents >> i think you have precedents here. recall, uh, such a here. i can't recall, uh, such a senior pulling out of such senior royal pulling out of such a big public event at such short notice. a big public event at such short notic mean, apart from queen >> i mean, apart from queen elizabeth and final of elizabeth ii and final years of her life her late 90s. her life in her late 90s. >> this is young man >> yeah, this is a young man who's 40. who's barely 40. >> yeah, usually they do keep calm there's no calm and carry on. there's no suggestion it isn't health suggestion that it isn't health a health issue, by the way. it could be something totally different, course, the different, but of course, the fact refusing go into fact then refusing to go into further detail means we're now all to. all speculating as to. >> that's a trouble all speculating as to. >>a that's a trouble all speculating as to. >>a parent. that's a trouble all speculating as to. >>a parent. andiat's a trouble all speculating as to. >>a parent. and it'll a trouble all speculating as to. >>a parent. and it'll come ble all speculating as to. >>a parent. and it'll come out, as a parent. and it'll come out, won't yeah. won't it. yeah. >> thinking situation under >> thinking what situation under what circumstances might prince william pull of something what circumstances might prince willthis?yull of something what circumstances might prince willthis?yulsecurity something what circumstances might prince willthis?yulsecurity threat,ing like this? a security threat, but presumably say but they would presumably say if it a security threat, it it was a security threat, if it was threat, then it was a security threat, then it would every other member would affect every other member of royal family. of the royal family. >> castle heavily >> windsor castle is heavily guarded, bearing mind the guarded, bearing in mind the greek family is also greek royal family is also there. queen not there. queen camilla, not an intelligence camilla intelligence and queen camilla the it. the queen camilla leading it. >> as a as a dad of >> so then as a as a dad of young kids, the only situation under which you might pull out if got an issue with a if you've got an issue with a child. yeah. and say you child. yeah. and you say you know kids, it could be that, know the kids, it could be that, you if your you know, especially if your missus incapacitated missus is incapacitated or recovering something and missus is incapacitated or recofeel|g something and missus is incapacitated or recofeel but something and missus is incapacitated or recofeel but they've ething and missus is incapacitated or recofeel but they've gotng and missus is incapacitated or recofeel but they've got nannies you feel but they've got nannies coming out of. anyway, he's coming out of. yeah anyway, he's a on dad. a hands on dad. >> a hands on dad. >> she's a hands on dad. >> she's a hands on dad. >> yeah they and they've >> yeah they are. and they've got, you know, mum's pretty got, you know, her mum's pretty good. well, good. thank you cameron. well, watch if you hear watch this space. if you hear anything, us informed. anything, keep us informed. right more to come. right a lot more still to come. paul scully has said that parts of birmingham london are no of birmingham and london are no go he right here? go zones. is he right here? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar weather on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie from the met office. it will a cloudy day office. it will be a cloudy day for most of us. there will be some sunshine across the some hazy sunshine across the south east however, but we south and east however, but we do weather front pushing do have a weather front pushing into of northern into parts of northern england and that will bring and north wales that will bring and north wales that will bring a of wetter weather a spell of wetter weather through rest of the through the rest of the afternoon. though, it afternoon. behind it, though, it will for parts of will turn brighter for parts of northern scotland. northern ireland and scotland. but are some blustery but there are some blustery showers come. showers showers to come. those showers will fall as snow over the hills of scotland as well. that rain will sink into more southern areas and parts of the areas of wales and parts of the midlands by later on this afternoon, but ahead it afternoon, but ahead of it across the south and east. as i said, dry through said, it will stay dry through much the day. sunshine will much of the day. sunshine will be than yesterday, be more limited than yesterday, but be fairly hazy too but it will be fairly hazy too when you do it, we'll still when you do see it, we'll still feel cold though. highs of only 8 9 degrees and that cold 8 or 9 degrees and that cold feel continue once again feel will continue once again tonight . feel will continue once again tonight. that feel will continue once again tonight . that spell slightly tonight. that spell of slightly wetter weather will push into the southeast, but will be the southeast, but rain will be fairly on that it fairly limited on that and it will turn drier as the night goes there'll more goes on. there'll be more extensive mist and fog by tomorrow morning, particularly for and areas for central and southern areas of , as well as some of england, as well as some eastern areas of scotland . and eastern areas of scotland. and so a bit more cloud around, so with a bit more cloud around, frost more limited, but frost will be more limited, but it still feel rather chilly it will still feel rather chilly to start on wednesday. the best of through of the sunshine through wednesday be across eastern wednesday will be across eastern areas through morning. areas through the morning. as the of the day progresses, a band of wet weather will push in from the . they'll be most the west. they'll be most persistent high ground persistent over the high ground of northwest england of wales and northwest england as parts scotland . as well as parts of scotland. but of us, it will be but for all of us, it will be feeling much milder tomorrow than today. see you later on. >> it's 11 am. on tuesday, the 27th of february. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner. >> thank you forjoining us this >> thank you for joining us this morning. so no go zones. the conservative paul scully has conservative mp paul scully has been of racism for been accused of racism for calling parts birmingham and calling parts of birmingham and london zones . when london no go zones. when questioned islamophobia in questioned about islamophobia in his party, a protest on the streets of britain, especially london, since hamas launched those deadly terror attacks on october the 7th, they've got 25 million. >> em- million. >> they're diverting >> of course, they're diverting police from everyday police away from everyday policing secretary james policing, home secretary james cleverly will set out his ambition for a new global response to tackle mass migration during a two day visit to america later today , we're to america later today, we're going to have the latest and what might that plan look like ? what might that plan look like? and the scourge of misogyny . and the scourge of misogyny. pupils could get lessons on calling out misogyny. this is a plan proposed by labour. are they taking on the role of . parents? >> and you know , paul scully has >> and you know, paul scully has responded actually on twitter in his tweet, i think was pretty extraordinary. basically said you lot all fight about it. i'm done.i you lot all fight about it. i'm done. i don't want anything to done. i don't want anything to do with this done and dusted. >> know having stirred up the >> i know having stirred up the row, going to be row, we're also going to be talking about the killer was talking about the killer who was sentenced for killing a murder and skinning cat, lending and also skinning a cat, lending and also skinning a cat, lending a who the bbc, a lending. the cat, who the bbc, sky and other broadcasters called woman? he's gone called a woman? no, he's gone to a because he's a trans a prison because he's a trans woman. why do they do this? >> let us know your thoughts. this morning. vaiews@gbnews.uk. first very latest first though, the very latest news sofia wenzel . news with sofia wenzel. >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's 11:00. >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's11:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . ministers in the gb newsroom. ministers are refusing to call a suspended tory mps. comments islamophobic senior conservatives are under growing pressure after the former deputy chair of the party, lee anderson, criticised the london mayor. he's refusing to apologise and maintain sadiq khan has lost control of to london a tiny minority of extremists . the london mayor has extremists. the london mayor has accused him of pouring petrol on the flames of islamophobia. mr anderson says he's simply trying to highlight what he believes is mr khan's failure to tackle pro palestine protests . the palestine protests. the conservative party is facing more backlash after mp paul scully claimed there were no go areas in birmingham and east london. the former minister made reference to areas with large muslim communities , which he muslim communities, which he says he now regrets . west says he now regrets. west midlands mayor andy street responded by saying westminster needs to stop the nonsense slurs . meanwhile mps are warning protests are putting unsustainable pressure on police resources. they're calling on the government to give more support as demonstrations continue over israel . gaza war continue over israel. gaza war a cross party committee found that policing the protests between the 7th of october and the 17th of december last year cost forces more than £25 million, it suggesting protest organisers give a longer notice period. former scotland yard detective peter bleksley says the marches are having a massive impact on resources. thousands of officers are having to be brought into london to deal with these protests . protests. >> it's and policing doesn't just have another box of police officers , it can open. officers officers, it can open. officers are being taken from other commitments elsewhere and as the met regularly says, officers are being taken away from the communities that they police. so who's going to fill that gap? well, quite frankly, no body because there aren't enough officers to do that . officers to do that. >> in other news, there's been no breakthrough on negotiations for a gaza ceasefire. but qatar says it remains optimistic. it's after a proposal to swap israeli hostages held in gaza for palestinian prisoners. it was sent to hamas. several days of multinational talks have been held in paris discussing the possibility of a temporary truce, reports suggest the deal would see all israeli women children under 19, elderly and sick hostages released in exchange for a number of palestinian prisoners as underwater experts who supported the search for nicola bulley are joining the operation to find a young boy who fell into the river in leicester, two year old xylo masaba fell into the river soar near nine days ago, whilst out with his family in the anniston meadows area of the city. the same private company was involved in a three week search of the river wye last yean search of the river wye last year, after mother of two nicola bulley disappeared , silo's bulley disappeared, silo's parents described their son as a cheeky, funny boy who was a bundle of joy . three men have bundle of joy. three men have been charged with the preparation of an act of terrorism after an investigation into a suspected extreme right wing activity , brogan, stuart wing activity, brogan, stuart and marcoose , will appear in court ringrose, will appear in court later . counter terrorism later. counter terrorism policing north east said it was part of a pre—planned intelligence led operation. a fourth man was also arrested last week but was released without charge . the home without charge. the home secretary , james cleverly, will secretary, james cleverly, will call on the international community to take collective action on migration in a major speech in new york. he will urge countries to work together to address root causes and to smash the people smuggling gangs. he'll also say that doing the right thing by migrants doesn't necessarily mean relocating them to the uk , and labour vows to to the uk, and labour vows to tackle misogyny in schools if they win the next general election . the party will give election. the party will give teachers the tools to end the scourge of sexual harassment by young men, influenced by online misogyny. under new plans, boys will mentor younger male p

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marco rubio was in that mix as well. nobody bought either of those in the primary. i think marcowon the minnesota caucusers, and the two candidates who came in first and second, trump and cruz -- obviously, i am partial -- worked for both of them, so i guess you could say i am not partial. but they had fundamentally the same approach to international affairs, which is, for trump, america first, you start with the basic interests of the united states, and you build your approach from there, and we can get into the relative successes or failures of that approach, but it is one that was persuasive to the primary voters and to the general electorate. i think that is, in many ways, where the head of the american people are. we can get into various specifics there, but that is where i see things at the moment. justin: that is great. brandan, give us the glass on history here, how you are connecting the gop to the gop of previous arrows. brandan: i think history shows the meaning of conservative foreign policy is not preordained, and it could take many forms that may seem strange to us

marco rubio will go along with it. >> i have no problem with pressuring european nations to pony up and pay their fair share. but i have a problem with republicans like marco rubio letting donald trump say it is okay to invade nato allies. it's a contrast from the marco rubio of 2016 in the republican primary, a former hawk. can you imagine if he said any of that stuff then? what we have heard from former trump officials is that he is going to make good on his craziest statements next go-around. that's what john kelly has been warning. that's what john bolton has been warning. he is telling us what he is going to do, and we should be prepared for that. >> let's remember, john heilemann, the only time nato's article five, mutual defense pact, was enacted is to help the united states after september 11th. allies were coming to our help. >> look, little marco has not been -- this is not a portrait in courage, any that surrounded him are long gone. it's been a long time. >> he's not going to get vp. >> that's right. he's made his peace with donald trump. >> admiral stavridis, i ask you at this juncture, just taking the focus off donald trump for a second, we understand how important there's -- the breakdown of the bill that has been cobbled together that

but marco rubio put one out today saying we need more people like navalny, who put country over, kind of personal interest. that's the same. marco rubio who just voted against ukraine aid, in effect rewarding putin at the behest of trump's. so i do think we are watching an important shift in the republican party. all of these events make it somewhat uncomfortable, but probably not uncomfortable enough to reverse and overcome the impact that trump is having in driving them in this direction. >> ron brownstein, tom dupree. >> thank you both >> thank you. >> of course. >> so boeing is making some changes to who is running the show when it comes to one of its plain models, this is weeks after the door plug on one of those planes blew off midflight. >> plus, we're already seeing the real-world impact in real time of an alabama court ruling that says frozen embryo those are children by law >> united states of scandal with jake tapper sunday at nine on cnn. >> how do i do it? >> with a little help and to support my family's immune health >> i choose airport it has an unbeatable amount of vitamin c plus a unique lynda been mu focused in

marco rubio. and in 2016, haley being like marco rubio, rubio continued to ken up and said i can't third place and after some of this, racism declared victory, even though he didn't win, you have to win the state and he didn't do that after super tuesday, he went down to florida, got trounced in his own state, ultimately dropped out. eventually the math will be impossible for the one quick thing i will add on the bill bradley example is no, he didn't win. but you know that in 2000 democrats, many of them fairly unfairly blamed bill bradley for hurting al gore and ultimately making it difficult in 2000. well, we don't know if that's really when we know what silly. oh, come on. no. i mean, they can say about nikki haley, they want but bill bradley did anyway, that's the well, that's not revisit. well, let's let's go through as a whole butterfly ballot thing, we could go into anderson will let you guys fight amongst yourselves going to read on how the south carolina results are playing in the next 2024 battleground, seen as gary tuchman is in detroit with voters who plan to take part in the michigan republican primary, which is this coming tuesday, gary that's right. that's the next primary anderson this tuesday here in the state of michigan. >> and we're not only >> with voters were with voters who are american heroes. these people are members of the veterans of foreign wars post 45, 53, and southwest detroit. it's nice to be with you. thanks for inviting us. we are inside the post right here. we have two republics qin's to democrats, this gentleman and the five in the back independence, we're going to ask you all because you all can vote democratic and republican primary on tuesday hair first of all, are two republicans this is rich and colleen. you saw donald trump won tonight. do you think it's time for nikki haley to call it quits >> yeah. >> why do you think so? she says she got almost 40% of vote. that's four out of ten south carolinians could be a tough road to avoid >> the >> climate. >> what do you think going? >> i don't think that she has enough momentum to unify the republican party behind her. >> donald trump is in legal trouble right now. >> he's in peril it could be a convicted felon next few months. could that possibly change your minds about voting for him in the general election once it comes know, this time, no not all. doesn't know. okay. thank you. might be too old >> just a number. >> just a number. how old are you if you don't mind me ask 77. 77. okay. young 77, right? >> okay. i'm not going to i'm not going to ask your age. don't worry about it. >> gentlemen. the two democrats, when asked you, you both told me that you are ready to vote for joe biden on tuesday same kind of question to them. do you think that joe biden might be too old for this job now why not >> well, the one thing i remember when obama's term, they wanted him to run for president, then and he turned it down because of the way that the country treaties jail he wants a job. >> okay. he only you >> decided to take this job once he found out trump was going to be president. >> so you don't think he's too old for the job. now, extract two budget i think he's a little too old >> but biden is oh, trump is old for years younger and about the same age. she told me bill and gitmo tell me you're both veteran vietnam veteran because your head says it not better. and u2 by the way, that okay. and you i am not a veteran, but who are you here with? all of my family is okay. catch it so that >> we have spouses. we also friends and veterans who are here also now on the back the independence. we first want to ask you, jeff and cory, both of you who have told me that you weren't sure if you're going to vote in the primary, your independence, but you're leaning towards both of you. nikki haley, tell me why if you do vote? >> well first of all, as we talked about earlier, i think the whole system is broken that's why you think of not voting, correct? a while you lean towards nikki haley, what will convince you to vote for on tuesday? her speech. just now her speed us now her speech. you impressed with the speech? i was i was and she actually gave me a spark of hope that there is some new blood that could do the country well >> and when did you serve and where did you serve? >> i served in iraq in 2003. thanks. thank you for your service. korea. what about you say pretty much the same thing >> just, just looking at the two >> factors of the age of the other two contestants. and what's going to go on? >> it looks like if she like how you can contestants like it's the price is right. yeah. well, that's that's pretty much like it is i'm glad you call it what i'd like that. so mean you both for on the same wavelength and told me where you served when you desert storm, there's just all 93 united states marine corps. >> this gentleman right in the middle is the commander of this post, jeffrey, you're an independent also, your siam you said you're fed up and you're not voting i'm not voting in the primary. okay. but why aren't you vote in the primary? you could vote democratic primary, republican primary >> why, why waste my time? >> why is it wasting your time? >> now you want me to ivone election, but not in a primary. okay. >> so do you know where you can vote for november >> 1? we're gonna have to see who's a live >> q. >> alive. you mean ok. you think what you think people are old? they're both 80 years old, but you had nikki haley, though too, is 52. >> well >> see if nick nikki haley wins the nomination who's a dog and apply. >> but said you'd consider nikki haley >> i don't i don't really follow politics. tell me where you served >> iraq and 04 or five, afghanistan 2010 thank you for your service. gentlemen, want to ask you the same question. this is down in poncho, don aid or an independent you told me that you're strong trump supporter though. >> i'm sal oh, so i apologize. that's okay. probably guys. yeah. i talked to a man named don who left us >> sit in that very chair, correct? but anyway, so accept my apology. tell me where you served by the way. >> i served in our rack 2,003.4. >> he told me though you are strong trump supporter how come you're not a republican? >> well, i am technically i am, but i'm not happy with the with the rnc. the national committee, how it's been run. >> why is that? >> well strident enough. >> they just haven't been supporting two candidates, the right candidates either, because you think they should support trump more than they even have. oh, yeah. >> oh, definitely. >> and poncho, i'm getting your name right? right. >> yes, sir. okay. tell me where you served as. >> i have not served, but i do have immediate family who has served and i have plenty of family members who have been in greg are independent. you're for trump also? yes, sir. okay. and del final question for you, independent for trump also, for truce important to trump, though? yes. any chance you'd go for nikki haley on tuesday i can't. you can't i can't i can't because right now, she she don't care too much about anything except for her gaining profit. when she come from being an ambassador, she made a lot of money that the strong charge, but either way you're a trump supporter. >> yeah. >> gentleman and lady? thank you very much for joining us. thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> thanks. anderson, back to you. >> erin tuchman. thanks so much. always great to hear from voters >> what do you think? i mean, between now and i mean, what nikki haley gets? she said she's gone to michigan tomorrow. if she's obviously in this through super tuesday which is lighten hundred dollar bills i fire the whole way down the road. >> she's doing well. >> i >> don't know what her path forward is telling me a state she's going to win. tell me some county she's going to win. bakari. bakari put on a map you showed me all the counties he want do that was a commercial million dollars, nikki haley spent $16 million of the state that she was a governor of that she won twice and currently, she's going to win two counties. i mean, maybe you should consider dropping out of the race. >> should we should we should, we should level set this donald trump's gonna be the nominee of the republican party. i mean, you look at super tuesday, it's really superfluous tuesday morning in so many state waiting for every poll i've seen only going to stay for weeks. i've been waiting every poll. she's well well, behind you, take california, there are 874 delegates california is winner-take-all. if someone gets over 50%, he's winning by 50% there. i mean, american samoa is up that they haven't seen any polls from there. maybe that's a spy. but this thing is over and donald trump needs to be the nominee. he's not going to give that up. this is not just a political exercise for him. this is his legal defense so he's not going to step down if he's convicted, he's going to appeal and he's going to run. and so this is fanciful. i'm not saying that there's not value to having someone offer an alternative in the race. but if anyone thinks that that's going to lead to a different outcome this point. i think they're just claiming nikki haley seems to be running to replace liz cheney at the top of the never trumpers. i mean, that's the only thing i could see. it's being accomplished at this point, but i'm sorry. >> go ahead. >> well, other people saw it differently tonight when they voted and also even on our air, i thought the spark of hope there might be some new blood allowed that was really important. >> yeah, new blood. >> i mean, i go he said he was talking about likely going to vote so there was a guy who's like, i don't know who to vote for november. i got to see who is a lie. he was more than the guy. yeah. exactly. >> thing that we were very careful not to talk about, but that's how i think a lot of real people are looking at this collection. they can't believe these are their two choices. and they're totally dispirited with the whole, i think i think the benefit of this entire thing the winner tonight, democrats, democrats or the winter tonight. nikki haley is the bludgeoning she's giving trump the chips in the armor, i think doing well. >> i said from a democrat by the way, the votes south carolina come in, we're learning more about what the final margin will look like and the impact that could have on the primary race for the gop. much warning >> this is the big dam >> cain, who that do. >> only unitedhealthcare, medicare advantage plans come with the eu card. once civil member card that opens doors where it matters for you >> what do we need to see a dr. waivable, you guard gets you with medicare advantage is largest national provider network. >> how about using it at the pharmacy? >> yes. you're eukaryote is all you need. >> that's easy. >> and it helped keep my smile looking good. >> yep. use your eukarya, the denis say jeez, get access to what matters 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and we're back with a key race alert with 83% of the vote in from the south carolina republican primary the delegates at stake, donald trump, way ahead with 60.4% of the vote. that's 377,768 votes. that is almost 135,000 votes ahead of former two term governor nikki haley who is 38.9% of the vote and 243,672 votes. tonight's primary is of course, playing out at a critical nicole historical moment. russia's war against the country and people of ukraine just hit the two-year mark. the conflict has been a key issue in the fight for the white house as new york us aid to kyiv remains in limbo because of opposition by trump's republican allies in congress and frankly, opposition by trump cnn's nick paton walsh joins us now, live from zaporizhzhia, ukraine and nic, you've been covering this war from the beginning. how has the outlook of ukrainian soldiers changed in the past two years? >> i think it's been an extraordinary roller coaster for them to be honest, i think many ukrainian soldiers didn't expect there'll be able to use minimal western armory in the opening in days of this war to hold back the third biggest army in the world, essentially, part of that was russia's fault for simply not being up to the task they set themselves and then they did later that year, managed to kick russia out of a lot of the territory they'd occupied. and then a southern counter offensive which simply didn't deliver in the summer of last year. but now ukraine's military face their hardest test because it's been that western aid that's kept them afloat, frankly, you can't fight a war just based on brave hearts alone, you need proper weaponry and weaponry is drying up. they don't have the shells that they need. and so jake, we've seen over the past week or so the realizations that people were talking about in december that slowdown of the $60 billion from congress would translate into deaths and loss of territory on the front lines. well, that is happening now and it happened last weekend with a loss we have defka ukraine pulling out of that last saturday, and we're slowly seeing a village near that being retaken by the russians and pressure in other parts of the frontline to unclear if this is going to basically herald the beginning of a collapse and ukrainian front lines that may not occur. but we're definitely seeing russia resurgent, taking advantage of this particular moment. and more importantly to jake behind the scenes, moscow retooling its economy resilient, desperately resilient to sanctions. those 500 targets over the last 48 hours from the biden ministration, moscow will find a way to work around that. they have been doing that quite ingenuity other the past few years or so, i think concerns here that while ukraine is running out, none of emotion not have hoped, nor the desire to fight this war. but at the basic tools it needs to do that. russia is both finding the resources and beginning to get its strategy slightly more coherent. >> jake and nick with that american aid, that usa to ukraine stalled in congress, if not dead, entirely what's happening on the frontlines in ukraine right now >> yeah. i mean, look, without that aid, they just don't have the ammunition. they need the europeans can step up and say, yeah, like today, we'll give you 170,000 rounds the next few weeks or so, but they've fall on shorter those promises before and without being too cynical here, there's always a feeling when the europeans make these broader pledges, they're are essentially trying to nudge the united states in that general direction. the biden administration doesn't need any nudging. it's been forefront about this from the very beginning and continues to want to try and find ways to get around that hurdling congress. but there is this ultimate fear i think amongst many ukrainians that are looming potential trump presidency brings not just a new era of uncertainty, but the very possibility that but the main ally they've had over the past two years might suddenly want to advocate for vladimir putin. that's the strange background noise and all of this, nobody really knows why donald trump feels such an affinity towards the kremlin head, but it's there and it's unmistakable it is indeed on the stake of all nick paton walsh. thank you so much. appreciate it. we are breaking down donald trump's victory in south carolina after voters, there rejected their former two term governor nikki haley reporting over the ballot totals as they come in, as we watch to see whether governor haley will win any any of the 50 delegates at stake tonight, stay with us >> ahead why her las vegas that's what i want to do. >> it's unlike anywhere else in the world. >> vegas, the story of sin city tomorrow at ten on cnn fashion moves fast. >> setting trends is our business. >> we need >> to scale with customer demand in real time so we partner with verizon, their solution for us, a private 5g network. >> we now get more control of production >> efficiencies and 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primary in the south in 2024. let's take a look at the vote right now. with 86% and of the vote in from the south carolina republican primary, donald trump is ahead with 66 0% of the vote, 385,207 votes. that's more than 132,000 votes, more than two time. governor nikki haley of the same state, who has 39.4% of the vote, 252,000 971 of votes. now let's listen to what we've heard from trump and haley this evening's speaking to their supporters a little while ago. here's trump focusing on his anticipated rematch with president biden and haley insisting she's in the fight to the bitter end. end >> able friends and we're going to be up here on november 5 and we're going to look at joe biden and we're going to look, i'm right in his destroying our country and we're going to say, joe year fired, get out in the next ten days. another 21 states and territory this will speak they have the right to a real choice not a soviet style election with only one candidate >> trump's victory this evening means he is taking the lion's share of south carolina's 50 delegates based on the vote so far he's gaining at least 38 delegates. haley currently, according to our tabulation, has no delegates from south carolina. that is widening of course, trump's delegate lead over haley and the rivals he forced out of the race already ahead of the delegate rich super tuesday contests ten days from now let's go to john king at the magic wall. now, john, tell us what we're seeing here when it comes to the remaining votes that were waiting for what we know jake is overwhelming as you just laid out, both from a count, the vote counts and percentages and the let's see if we can answer the remaining questions or at least gives some clues. again. most of the boats in we're up to 86% of the vote, 60% to 39%. the former governor twice elected in the state of south carolina, losing by 20 plus points in her home state. if you look right here at the map right now, right now, she is winning three, winning leading in just three of the state's 46 counties. i want of them what she's running most impressive is down here in charleston county. and i mentioning this, i'll come back to why in just a moment of 62% there. if you round it up. so as we wait for the final votes to come in, donald trump's gonna win south carolina tonight. he has won south carolina tonight. he will win it convincingly. the question is this nikki haley get anything does she get any delegates at all out of her home state just to come over here quickly this way and take a look this is where we are at the full count right now, but we still have a few more to allocate in south carolina. let me just pop it up this way to take a look. we've awarded already allocated 38 to donald trump of the 50, which least 12, that means for congressional districts that were not comfortable calling just yet, we're counting more votes, a couple of them are pretty close. so there's 12 delegates, 12 delegates, three for each of those four congressional districts. now, as we try to figure out the only mystery left tonight, where do those 12 delegates go? let's see if the map offers us any clues. this is your full map. you see the lines you're seeing right now follow along because what i'm about to do could be a little confusing. but these lines are county lines these are the seven congressional districts. you see, it's a little different if you realize. so i'm going to draw it down here. this is the one we're following most closely. that is, where governor haley seems to be in play. that is the first congressional district, right? a little rough. my lines are not perfect, but you see them along the lines of the area of the district. why did i do that? we're looking here at the district vote and trump is leading right now in the first congressional district, the question is, is it possible for nikki haley to get three or six delegates by winning one or two congressional districts. this is the one i think we might be counting for for a while. and let me show you why. let's come back now to the county wide votes. we have the county-wide votes you see within this district the green line. she's winning in charleston county and she's winning in buford county down here. but you see there's also some trump country in this district. so in berkeley county trump is winning with 59% of the vote. in charleston county. governor haley is running with about 62% of the vote. we come down here to view for she's running with 55% of the vote and there's this tiny slice right here. of call it and county in there where trump is winning with 70% of the vote. so that's what makes it complicated. the district has a big area where governor haley is leading, and it has some healthy areas were donald trump is running it up big, which is why it gets a little more complicated as you go through it. so if you look at it, if you take the lines away and you look, you say governor haley's winning down here. but when you lay in the congressional tunnel map, trump's competitive. he is currently leading. the possibility is what's out, right? that's always at this time at night, you're saying what's out? well, here's your live outstanding votes. the bigger the circle, the more votes were still waiting to count up here in the greenville area. that's your biggest circle. is it possible, governor haley could get a bunch of votes up there. there's a congressional district right there. it's possible, but why is that circle red? because donald trump at the moment is leading in that area. you see down here, that's the first congressional district, the one where i said is possible emphasis on possible governor haley wins the one district down here because you see the big circle of outstanding votes there. jake, where she's running strong. so still more votes to count, but we know the top line. trump wins, trump wins big in haley's home state, the only question now is, does he get all 50 or does she get three or six of those delegates? >> all right. john king, thanks so much. let's check in now with cnn's kristen holmes. she's at trump headquarters in columbia, south carolina. and kristen, how much harder will be trump? will trump be pivoting to the general election? action. now that he has had this resounding victory in governor haley's home state >> jagan, want to be clear here. he is going to pivot to the general election, but this is not some kind of messaging pivot. it's not as though he's going to change who he is as a human being. but we're talking about brother, a big campaign an pivot. they want to focus on where they need to be for a general election or potential general election rematch with president joe biden. that means talking about where they can build out their campaign apparatus, particularly particularly in those critical swing states were talking about michigan as well as arizona and georgia. they are going to start having these conversations stations as to how to make an actual general election campaign. and the other part of this is a donald trump is still very annoyed frustrated. he is vented privately than nikki haley remains in the race. he's annoyed after tonight that she's still in the race and his advisers have told him time and time again to focus that ire on president joe biden. they want to make this about donald trump and joe biden. but one senior advisor acknowledged that will likely be difficult as they themselves have to hide has had to remind donald trump time and time again to ignore nikki haley. >> all right. kristen holmes, thanks so much. let's go to priscilla alvarez. now, who's at the white house for us and priscilla, what is the biden campaign's reaction? to donald trump's big historic victory in south carolina does evening. >> well, jake, we're getting a statement from the campaign just minutes ago where there was sounding message here is still about the threat that they say former president donald trump poses if he were to win a second term, i'm gonna read you part of the statement here. it says every free day, we are reminded of the thread donald trump poses to our future as americans grapple with the damage he left behind, the campaign here goes on to note roe, roe versus wade, the economy and later goes on to say, we all have more to do to push towards a more perfect union. but trump wants to take us backwards. now jake, soon after terraform president donald trump was projected the winner in south carolina primary, the biden campaign was already fundraising and saying that he was positioned to be the gop nominee and the campaign looking for contributions to shore up support for president biden. and that was really the thought going into this evening and talking to campaign officials. this was just another moment. they said that confirmed what they already knew that former president donald trump is going to be the gop nominee, and that is exactly what they are preparing for. in fact, sources tell cnn that president biden has directed his senior campaign aides to focus more and more aggressively on the former president's inflammatory rhetoric we're already seen that come to life with the statements they're putting out about the former president's remarks about nato, as well as on reproductive freedoms. now i will also know jake, we did see the president earlier this evening. he gave remarks to governors who are here for a black-tie dinner. he said that politics has gotten too bitter. now he didn't talk about the south carolina primary, but it is a bitter and tight race that his campaign is preparing for come november. all right. priscilla >> alvarez at the white house for us and joining us now here in studio, key supporter or a former governor, nikki haley's presidential campaign, new hampshire republican governor chris sununu, who has shed his black tie, know what's up with that down for us. >> we appreciate it was a heck of a car ride over the black side, just wasn't going coming out the window for those who don't know the governor was obviously at the black tie event, at the white house, were all democrats and republican governors from across the country worked participating. governor, let me just ask you bluntly why is nikki haley still in this race? she has not won a contest yet. she just got trounced in her home state. however much, you like her support her, want her to be present and want her to be the nominee. the republican voters in this country don't agree. >> the republican voters in three states so far don't agree 47 to go oh nevada. we counting nevada really great job i know there's there's super tuesday to go. there's a lot of opportunity here where we are a party where i don't believe nikki doesn't believe most republicans don't believe that just some party elites in a few state should dictate the nominee. so she has done what no other candidate could do, which is wipe everybody out of the race, challenge him in new hampshire, come to south carolina, and again, challenge here, hopefully collect the delegates as you go. she has a multimillion dollar ad buy going forward in the next 16 states into super tuesday, she's going to challenge him and michigan as well. so i think there's there's still a lot of opportunity i after super tuesday. i think the campaign will probably reassess and say, okay, where do we go? where do we pivot as every campaign will do? but this is about the voters, the voters decide where they should go and folks want a choice. 40% is nothing to shrug and it's really not. a lot of folks said that this is going to be an absolute runaway and all that. and again, nikki haley never had to win any of these early states. the early states are all about filtering and she filtered this field down faster than anybody. so to get the 40% to carry that momentum, to have the resources to do it. if if she had no resource and can no backing, that would be one thing. but there's a lot of folks still coming out. there's a lot of opportunity on super tuesday but she has to win something, right? sure. >> oh, no >> everybody would agree on that stage. >> does she have to win a state or multiple states in on super tuesday? >> i think if you don't win anything on super tuesday, it might be tough going for it, obviously, i think you'd have to look at the resources. what the next states are, what those demographics are, what the opportunity is. but that'll all be here. we assessed efforts after super tuesday, but she's on the ground. she's making the case. she's i think the big thing that the haley campaign is doing very well as they're trying to galvanize new voters out, new republicans that typically don't vote. there, galvanizing about there, having them participate in the process and making sure again that this is decided in the ballot box, not in the media, not by the rnc, not by party elites. that's just not the right process. it's a democratic process to make sure you carry it all the way through. >> i want to quickly go to cnn's kylie atwood, who is at haley headquarters in charleston, south carolina. and kylie, you're getting some new information about what governor haley is doing after tonight's disappointing results for her. what is she up to? >> yeah. well, nikki, haley's campaign was busy reaching out to donors less than an hour after she gave her speech here telling them that they're going to be ten fundraising events over the course of the next ten days or so, listing out those fundraisers in these super tuesday states that they're urging doj owners to attend and they're saying in this email to those donors that nikki haley defied the odds that she has done better than the pundits expected her to calling former president trump a de facto incumbent. so they're trying to cast south carolina as something that's sort of in the rearview mirror. she's headed on, she's trying trying to raise more money. of course, there are a few things that we have to look at. there's a few questions we don't know the answers to how much is she going to raise during the course of these next ten donor events, we really don't know. we do know that the minimum amount that donors can give to get in the door with nikki haley at those is $1,000. that isn't such a high amount so appears maybe they're trying to expand the tent, but the other thing is that she had her most successful month of fundraising in january, but still she wasn't able to win here in south carolina. so of course, jake, money isn't everything, but she has money in the bank. she's probably going to keep her campaign alive. >> all right. kylie atwood in charleston. thanks so much. >> yeah. governor sununu, i just want wonder. i mean, nikki haley tonight said what she said in the past, which is that she thinks donald trump would lose to joe biden. she thinks that he's a divisive candidate. all of that what message does it send to voters if after saying all of that? if she is not the nominee, she ultimately ends up supporting donald trump. >> again, that's not even entering nikki haley's head or the campaign's mind right now that's a hypothetical that's a post-super tuesday post. i mean, a result shaking >> i mean, >> i've shown that enter her mind because i'm absolutely not making a case that this this this guy who looks likely to be the nominee cannot win. so then if she turns around and then says, hey, but i endorse him. i mean, don't you think that that's confusing? maybe? no, no, not at all for two things. number one, if i can add is wondering what they're going to say if and when they lose, then that would be a problem. i guarantee you. nikki haley's not thinking like that at all, nor nor should she be i'll primaries. are always hard fought. >> i mean, you had 13 candidates in the race. a lot of them lost to donald trump already, right? and some of them have gotten behind some, some haven't so that's that's kinda hypothetical down the road. her job is to say i'm going to raise money, i'm going to fight hard. i'm going to make sure the voters have a say. if you want to worry about hypotheticals, 33 weeks from now, we can deal with those hypotheticals then. but right now, all nikki haley's is worrying about is how to keep keep that momentum going, keep people excited, and making sure that folks aren't giving up and they are getting out the vote. the challenge with if donald trump is the rnc is practically broke, leadership is leaving like literally in a week or something like that. he drags down the rest of the ballot republicans want winners all the way down, even at the even if president trump were to win, there's no doubt we're probably going to lose the house in the senate and governorships and all that. that's the case that she's really out there making. she's connecting with people about their school board seats in their local seats. she cheek kind of puts all kinds of throws gasoline on the fire in a very positive way for the entire republican party. it's a tough argument to make when you're effectively running against the incumbent, but she's the one fight in the fight. but why is it electability argument not gaining traction among republican voters? and i guess if you broaden it out, was it a mistake not to go after him on his liabilities like the 91 criminal charges, he's facing his role in january 6 she's shies away from that for the most part, talks about chaos, or donald is a chaos, isn't but does not seize on some of the very serious criminal allegation. >> that a mistake? no. look, anyone who's who says that her strategy is a mistake. i she's the last one standing. so clearly she did something that all those other candidates probably probably should have >> the raisins to lose, but losing as much she has no cheek know, they they couldn't they were all they all got wiped out. there's a reason she was she did well in iowa. she did very well in new hampshire. everyone else got wiped out. her strategy is where it's gotten and she's gone after trump hard over the last month. i've been really, really hard in the exact right way. but as a candidate, you want to talk about what you're bringing to the table, going against an incumbent it's tough, going against the establishment is tough and again, when it comes to what is driving that result, you guys will talk about trump say his name, 1,000 times on every media station, every single night he is winning the earned media war because that's all you guys talk about. nikki has to be tried in for courtrooms. that's right. i mean, that's why we're covering that's right because it plays the victim card. he's winning the earned media work >> has he's also winning? i think that's fundamentally what i'm curious about is if nikki haley's staying in the race, what is she trying to accomplish when it comes to voters, if not? beating donald trump, if, if she can't make it trying to get more voters than donald trump not that. so if that's the case where she going to win all super-duper, he is going to do the advice he's going to hit the ground. she's gonna go galvanize these voters were very little campaigning has actually been done, very little campaigning has even hit the ground in a lot of these states. so she's again, she has the resources to do it. she has the ability. she's way better on the ground. trouble come in and do his rallies and get people hyped up. i mean, trump looks forward to the trials at this point because he gets to play that victim card. and again, the media plays that up. so at the end of the day, there's a lot of republican voters that look, they're tired of whether it's again, present company excluded, whether it's liberal media, pushing back on republicans or the liberal establishment, or they feel like the trials or tax or whatever they might be. but people are just making a vote very often for the former president, simply on connecting with anger because they're tired of the quote, unquote liberals of washington standing on the shoulders of hardworking americans, folks that the defendant in this country, and their single, the enemy, my enemy is my friend. that's it. nikki is trying to get past that >> i want to go back deeper with it. i want to go back to the beginning of this conversation. you did come from the white house? yeah. >> you're not wearing a tuxedo anymore. did you get some face-time with the president? >> went on his conversation and well, i i graciously congratulated him on his win in the first-in-the-nation primary which he laughed that he got, which he did when i know he tried to steal the first nation primary from new hampshire. it didn't work so i think we kinda made the point he knew that was probably a bad. >> what was what was the vibe like in the room how the gop governors get along very well, right? we went about what the president oh, it was very positive. yeah. yeah. with the first lady was there. the vice president was there. the president was there. >> we >> had a nice conversation. some of the secretaries were there. we spent some time with us i tried to squeeze in a little businesses as best i could this is a week we're at national governors association where we really governors really agree on, i think a lot of the issues might be not the strategies around this issue. he's been a lot of the issues that are important. immigrations, the number one, democrats and republicans all agree immigration is the number one issue. something has to be done. they all agree that this bill probably isn't going to pass. so the big question of the white house is, so what's plan b? what's next? you gotta do something right? and we got into some details there. that was a little bit yesterday morning as opposed to tonight. but again, spending some time with the epa administrator or some of the various secretaries, i sat next to the secretary of agriculture tonight while i'm not from a big ag state, we talked just a lot about the dynamics of what's facing folks. so it's a good opportunity to be social, but 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problem going into this head-to-head match and this is a great night for joe biden. it shows the division in the republican party and the fact that finally, finally we're going to get down to this battle between these two individual candidates. >> well, with all due respect, sir, i mean, in terms of a 40% problem in joe biden, president biden's approval rating is under 40%. and in terms of head-to-head, most of the polls i've seen suggests that donald trump would win in a head-to-head match up and then include state-by-state polls in places such as michigan aren't you worried? >> well, we haven't had a head-to-head battle yet. the truth of the matter is that donald trump also has a low approval rating and low favorability look, the american public coming out of covid, dealing with inflation, lots of things on people's minds haven't really focused on the head-to-head battle yet because you've got a lot of noise going on on the republican side. like i said tonight, you're seeing that this is the beginning of the general election battle. >> so you are in las vegas, nevada, you spoke at an event today pushing to add an amendment protecting abortion rights to the 2024 in nevada about how central is that issue of abortion rights to the democratic strategy for november to get voters out to vote before that >> and then the hope being from >> democratic strategists and folks like yourself that then they will turn out and also vote for president. >> biden. it's a strategy that republicans used successfully in 2000 for to get people to turn out to vote for george w bush, except then it was about an amendment declaring marriage to only be between a man and a woman. but how central is this to the strategy of getting out the vote for democrats? >> well, fighting for reproductive rights is what joe biden kamala harris have been all about. and the fact that there are amendments on the ballot across the united states is going to be good for turnout. there's no doubt about it. it's good for democrats, it's good for people who are standing up for women's rights and free dm and bad for donald trump and the republicans who want a national abortion ban and you saw what happened in alabama. court rulings that are a direct outgrowth of the decision by the republicans to go hard against women's reproductive rights. so now you can't even get ivf. think about the way in which they are insidiously going after women. this is going to be a problem for republicans throughout this election cycle. and it's democrats and joe biden that are demonstrating that were the ones standing up for their rights in their freedom governor, it's dana bash. i want to ask about an upcoming democratic primary in michigan, your neighboring state. and the concerns that many democrats have about the strategy by congresswoman rashida tlaib and others to urge voters to vote undecided, undeclared. and so that would send a message they hoped to president biden that he needs to pay attention to their concerns on committed rather. >> so the question is how concerned are you about what is going on in michigan and what that says about joe biden and where he stands with the democratic party and the coalition. he needs look the demonstrators protesters have a lot of passion and compassion and >> want there to be a cessation of hostilities between israel and hamas and so does joe biden and indeed is working very, very very hard to make sure that there is a real direct negotiation going on to release hostages and see a cessation of hostilities unfortunately, hamas has been unwilling to actually complete those negotiations. and i know that joe biden cares deeply about this now let me be clear. i think that there are passions on all sides here and that will probably be demonstrated in some way in michigan in this primary. but in the end, what i think people really understand is that do you think things would be better if donald trump were the president of the united states? think 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who are american veterans, vietnam veterans, iraq veterans, afghanistan veterans, to republicans right here two democrats right here. the man in the middle, the people in the back, all say they're independent show of hands after watching the coverage, who's ready to vote for trump in the primary tuesday, raise your hand. 12345. who's ready to vote for biden and the democratic primary? 12, who's ready to vote for nikki haley republican primary 12. we have a little splitter. a question for you to independence in the back. these gentlemen in the back, because jeff and cory jeff inquiry, do you think nikki haley has a shot of getting this nomination? >> i think so. >> a good shot. >> slim, but i think so. >> you go to vegas on at cory. >> wouldn't go to vegas on it. we will go to vegas on it. okay. so i think most of you think is most likely to be biden against trump. okay. you to folks in the back here, both of you you are shell and poncho cell, by the way, where did you serve >> irac 100034 i'm punch of your friend and family members, veterans? yes, sir. what would it take for you to switch your vote from trump to biden in the general election. >> not all chance. you had a chance >> at all, not anything at all. nothing. >> what about if trump is convicted of crimes that it's a kangaroo court kangaroo, all the, all these different cases, you feel the same way? >> yeah. i would just not vote in that scenario. >> you two gentlemen, what would it take for you to vote for trump instead of biden >> now a little while and >> not as nobol angel >> why do you say that way? not jazz >> okay. this is gitmo and this is bill. tell us where did you serve gitmo? >> i started vietnam. okay. and bill vienna? what about, you know, chance at all, even switch hands? no. okay. do you have any problem with the the age of joe biden where the age of donald trump from, that no, he just no matter >> no. >> okay >> what about you two folks, both of you republicans what would it take for you to switch your vote for joe biden? >> what do you think? how do you think he's done as president united states right now >> he the jochum you're laughing. he did joke. >> why? why do you say that though? >> if he can't remember his own lives name, you can't forget how to ride a bicycle the fall of going up the stairs, doing a lot and you're. most about the same age group. and one is sharper a pencil and his guys talk to an invisible van, shaken tantrum, invisible man. i got a problem. >> everyone does make, donald trump makes mistakes to when he speaks to unshaken calling, but i guess i do. >> i just am not for any of his policies at and any of his philosophy of how america should be i want to ask, are democrats here? are you going to be voting for biden on tuesday primary? >> yeah >> can we voted for him also have already voted >> you've done early volumes and d you expect him to be the next president, united states? >> yeah. >> what do you think >> we still wonder? >> you still wonder >> why is that bill? >> i'm not sure who's going to be the president. >> we don't know one question i want to ask all of you because you're all your all part of the military and the question regards donald trump to south carolina recently, he mocked nikki haley. he was talking i can about her husband, michael haley, and he said what happened to her husband, where is he? he's gone well, their husband is a soldier in the national guard and was deployed to africa. what people consider that a very significant insult to a military member. how did that make you feel as a democrat >> oh, yes, as bad. >> real bad. >> well, the same way with well, the republican nod came, mccain >> well, john mccain before he died and after he died was in talks about him. do now della want to ask a urine independent for trump? how do you feel about that? >> just a question to ask. i mean, you know, where's where's these folks me. where he spoke to me is on duty >> i want to thank all of you for talking to us and once again, thank you for your service to this country >> thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. >> anderson. back to you erin. thank you very much. appreciate it back now with the panel here in new york, what i mean, let's talk about this general election. >> you got. >> i mean, >> it's it's a rematch of 2020. what's different? there's no pandemic. both men facing age questions that you have to trump trials. what does this go look like? >> well, these groups discussions are always so interesting, interesting especially now, because it is a rematch that so many voters didn't want. and i think what we're seeing is a lot of people have entrenched viewpoints. there's not a lot of minds to change up. what it's really going to come down to a joe biden, can he hang on to the core constituencies he needed to turn out young progressives, young people the black community for donald trump, there's some pretty glaring signs about where he could lose support. he's doing he's performing even worse with women. there's this third of the party that wanted someone other than him, but we all know the election comes down to essentially seven swing states and half-a-million. >> i mean, he won in 2020, wisconsin biden won with 20,000 votes, 20,700 or three or something like that. michigan was closed and now it's having all these problems in michigan? yes. all these states are going to be close to i'm going to be within pennsylvania will be within 50,000 votes again, right? all these states are going to be balanced on the tip of a pin. interesting to see these veterans here is alyssa was talking about kind of people are entrenched in their views now one of the vectors talked about afghanistan like a policy position, some good actually matters. they talked about things they've heard on social media or the top of the daily mail someplace these kind of things that resonate amongst the talking heads. not here but no one is really delving into some of the issues the policies, it'd be interesting to see if we get to that or it's all just about age, he's too old, he's too crooked. that kind of mudslinging or people get to are we going to have a debate? we're gonna get this done. again. >> i think i think what we see in these groups, a lot of times there's something that we fall into the trap of all of us where we get outraged about the things donald trump says and does. whereas i think a great deal of the american public are either checked out or desensitized because the insults to the military, for me, i adore those individually digital's who had the courage to go and serve, particularly looking at all of them, you just want to work harder to ensure the country is perfect for them to live in. but they don't care about it. i mean, it was not a big deal to the overwhelming majority of them. i mean, they would to it and it just seems as if donald trump can say and do about anything. and i go back to my analysis, which is really simple about this race. i say it all the time until i'm blue in the face but this is joe biden, donald trump and the couch and the couch is going to be very, very successful in november of 2024 because i think more people are going to stay at home. and you can pop possibly imagine. >> but one of the interesting things we did here i think is there was actually a split. those two voters who said that they were going to the top right corner of the screen. one of them said, if trump's convicted, oh, it's a kangaroo court, right? and that's what donald trump is going to try to convince everyone of, you know, basically, i mean, he already is, right. but the other one said, you know what, that scenario i'm not going to oh, it actually was a difference. right. and so that's that group of people that we keep seeing that 30% or so in the very conservative iowa electorate that say a conviction, not, not these indictments, but a conviction would make a difference. and when we're talking about these margins that you raised anderson, right? that, you know, 50,000 votes in pennsylvania, razor thin. >> that's a lot. >> yeah. >> the way i look at this is absolutely a conviction could cost trump the election so-called rain. >> like literally rain >> like in 2016, it was 68,000 votes over, over three states. and in 2,020.20, 20, it was 48,000 votes over three states and if it's a two-way race, it's very, hard. very hard for me to see biden losing with his coalition because the democratic coalition is much bigger than republican coalition. nikki haley is representing a slice of the electorate that are the majority-makers for a republican, you need those swing voters, those independence those anti-trump or non-trumpy, moderate republicans. the problem is, it's just not going to be a two-way race. that's that is the problem you throw in a couple of third-party candidates, plus you throw in the couch because i think is a real thing like we were talking earlier about the black vote. i agree with you entirely that in terms of percentages of the black vote, democrats are going to score historically north formal rates. >> the >> question is, how big will the black of the rapey? and that's a huge issue. >> i do think that the third party issue is important. i've said for a long time, donald trump has a high floor and a low ceiling. you lower the threshold for him it makes it easier for him to win the race. so if you have, he didn't he had that advantage in 2016? it helped him win the race. he didn't have it in 2020, he narrowly lost the race. we've talked about the 7 million that biden won nationally by, but we don't run elections that way. it was 44,000 votes in the three closest states. those can be tilted by third-party but just one last point, van joe biden and very few presidential incumbents can win or a referendum. it has to be a choice. and that means every single day he needs to be drawing contrasts with trump and drying and he needs a larger narrative about what this election is. a pattern i'm not sure if people are clear on what that narrative is right now >> i've just gone back. somebody said earlier, david about, about strength there's gonna be a contrast that's true, but people also need it to vote for something. the economy is actually doing reasonably well in that gas prices are low. unemployment is low, stock market is up. but food prices are stuck >> yeah, and that's what's her printing people. some strength from a grandpa like joe biden would be to go and challenge these national chains at grocers who are just now, just pure profit that was all this, all the supply chains are dying. they are just purely rip people off. a joe biden and stands up to national chains that change that grows with insets, quit ripping off the american people lower. >> you're going to see that in the state for the union speech that's what i would predict and it's good. >> we're learning more about what donald trump's final margin of victory will look like as the votes in south 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presidential nomination, the world is marking a full two years of war and bloodshed in ukraine, a milestone that does not seem to be moving trump's allies in congress who are standing in the way of new us aid for ukraine in its battle against the russian invaders. cnn chief national security analyst, jim sciutto joins us now to mark this two-year occasion. and jim, the primary season is playing out as we mark these two years, you've reached out to sources in ukraine, in europe, and the pentagon on the hill for their assessment of the war, two years in what are they telling you? so big picture. remember, you remember this? well, at the start of this war, the us intel assessment was it was gonna be over very quickly. they expected russia to overwhelm ukraine, take kyiv and 72 hours that didn't happen two years later ukraine is still fighting, but a year ago, the feeling was that ukraine was in a position to gain back territory, start pushing russians back. but the counteroffensive didn't really accomplish that. certainly hasn't yet. and it's pretty much a frozen conflict in the east with even ukrainian forces losing ground and fear is rising that ukraine could be at a tipping point primarily because the largest military in the world, and it's number one backer, the us is standing on the sidelines. i want to tell you what a senior ukrainian military has officer told me just in the last 24 hours, he said that my biggest worry is that we'd be left on our own to fight against embolden evil. in case the west is overwhelmed by domestic politics, of course, speaking in the us populace, pacifists, it would be a massacre and exodus of biblical proportions as russia continues to escalate in its brutality, that's the ukrainian view here. they feel that they're being abandon and without that help, that could be the faith that they're facing. they're not alone in that i spoke to mike quigley. he's the co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus, and he's concerned that if aid doesn't come very, very soon, it could effectively be lost to his point first and foremost, he says, my concern is that time and speed providing arms and ammunition the pipeline is emptying and it takes a lot of time to refill the point being, you could vote tomorrow or next week or next month, but that doesn't fill those ammo dumps. it doesn't provide the weapons that they need right away. there's a lag time and during that time, russia is pushing by the way, there's a russian presidential election next month. the feeling is when putin wins again because it's not really an election that he feels emboldened. he might mobilize more officers and push even harder to put ukraine on its back foot bigger picture when i speak to senior us military officials they're concerned that they're not learning from the war so far this is what a senior us military official told me. i've been speaking with since the very start of this war. he says we aren't learning enough from ukraine events. we have again tried to build their forces in an image of our own. and it is unlikely to succeed in the short term. he goes on to say it matters today for ukraine, but he also says it matters tomorrow for taiwan. the point being, they tried to turn the ukraine into an american name 8:00 style fighting force there in the span of weeks with weapons we were providing and saying basically, go out and fight with this new weapon system over and over and it just didn't work and it didn't match the russian forces. and that's where we are today. so you have concern that from ukrainian certainly that they're being abandoned from us lawmakers, that if they don't act now then they're really going to put the ukrainians in a position to lose and then the us military saying, we didn't adjust quickly enough to. so this is how they feel. now with trump and his skepticism and hostility towards ukraine and his allies in congress doing what they do but he's not president he's just wielding influence. how do foreign leaders and ukrainians view the possibility that donald trump may very well be president. again, control, controlling the pentagon, controlling congress even more than he is now, i spoke to the prime minister of estonia last night. this is of course, a nato ally. it's a front a forward-facing nato ally. they're right on russia's border. >> and >> when she hears trump say, listen, i may not defend you. nato allies in the east as he did the other day, and he stood by those comments. if you don't pay your two they listen, they say we have to listen and take that seriously. because he said this before. he said there's while he was president and since he was president, and the point of the alliance is, is confidence and if you don't have confidence that your allies is going to come to your defense, then you doubt that, you doubt that commitment. and by the way, and she makes this point all the time as do other eastern european leaders russia than doubts it, because if the commanders and chief is saying he's not going to fulfill that commitment. our adversaries might calculate. that may very well be true even more so, i mean, as nikki haley and john bolton pointed out, donald trump has made it very clear he he doesn't see much see the point and us membership in nato and might pull us out of nato. yeah, >> absolutely. jim sciutto, thanks so much as donald trump it takes another step towards the republican nomination after this dominant south carolina, when this evening we're going to take a look at another contest between the two oldest been to face each other in the presidential race. what that might could mean for the november general elections, stay with us >> there is to hear about your father father, mother. thank you. well, that's >> a little better >> so let you go >> you always have to be center of attention. >> i have to accept that you're wired like luna small, your petty, you're walking virus. larry an authenticity involved in carrying about oneself 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warning that a trump-biden rematch will stoke americans divisions >> now, there's this spirit that i have never seen. we ran to great races >> but there's never been ever has never been a spirit like this. and i just want to say that i have never seen the republican party so unified as it is, right >> does anyone seriously think? joe biden or donald trump will unite our country. he saw they are fighting for our country's future. they're demanding we fight each other >> trump's victory tonight, he is adding to his all-important delegate count, winning most of south carolina's 50 the delegates scene and now assesses, you'll get at least 44 with none for haley's so far. that's expanding. trump's overall delegate lead the keys to, of course, winning the nomination and position joining him well for the delegate rich super tuesday contest, ten days from now back now with the actual it's going to john king at the magic wall. john, what are you looking at >> anderson, you heard as you said, the spin there from the candidates while the numbers simply don't lie, whether you're looking at the raw vote or they're looking at the delegate math. let's walk through it we think we have more than 90% of the vote in so we're close to being done counting and donald trump is getting 60% of the vote. if you round that up just a little bit to 39% for governor haley in a state, she was elected twice as governor, but she was last elected a decade ago. donald trump has won south carolina now four times since 2016 primary 2016 general 2020 general now the 2024 primary. and he's winning it quite convincingly. you see nikki haley at the moment leading in three, just three of her home state's 46 counties. so donald trump winning. and when you look, pull it out this way, that means for in a row five, if you count the virgin islands, donald trump has won all five republican contests that have been held. so for and he's won them convincingly. uh, bring this back out, but i just want to slide over here. that's tonight's vote total. you're trying to win the nomination. the nomination is one with delegates. so look at where donald trump is right now, 107 based on south carolina, we still have six left to allocate. so let's pull it out. and you tap trump. they're trump getting 44 of the 50 delegates so far, what does that mean? that means in two congressional districts, there are seven congressional districts, 21 delegates. they each get three to two districts were not ready to project just yet, donald trump will get at least 44. he could get all 50. it is possible though likely scenario at this hour is something more like that. and i'll show you why and admit it's possible, nikki haley gets six. if i were in vegas right now, if i were going to bend at all on this and close bet, i would bet three at the most. let me show you what i mean by that. so this is the county map, right? you're looking at the county map of south carolina. this is the map by congressional district. you see the lines are different here at the moment. donald trump is winning all seven of these congressional districts. but i just want to come back to the county map first, come back to the county map and look, remember this let's draw it a little bit like that. and remember this down in here. so let's draw it something like that. remember that this is follicle follow on closely here. i'm going to ask would come on an even closer when you go into the congressional district map, right? donald trump is winning this district here. but look here and here, you see where i had the circles we come back to this map, have to turn that off. >> see the haley >> votes, haley's getting votes up here. haley's getting votes down here as we continue to count in this district here, which is the six district, right? so it's possible as we continue to count more likely though, is here when you come to the first district and let me get rid of the lines, you see the first district here. i'm going again, just draw this out. to show you where you see the district line there become back there. now you come back to the county map. you see those are the haley votes in the sixth district, but this is the first district. most of it along here, where you do see governor haley getting votes. so this is the full district. trump getting votes here. trump gets votes down here but governor haley is strongest in charleston county and buford county, which is why anderson, if you go through the math, donald trump's winning overwhelmingly in the vote count. he's going to win the overwhelming bulk of the 50 delegates. he has 44. now conceivable that governor haley could get six out of 50 interstate more likely, she would get three still counting the votes, perhaps we know that by the end of the evening, but she's still getting a drubbing in her home state. and donald trump is five no yeah john king. thanks very much back with panel here in new york. so let's talk about super tuesday. i mean, what nothing much changes between now and then, but will have the answer to some long-standing questions like whether or not the never trump donor class can actually overcome a cult of personality. think we'll know that by then. we'll also know whether or not people we think that essentially solidify the idea that trump is the most effective messenger for the party's base in their current preoccupations, whether that be protectionism, isolationism, whether that's not wanting to marad across the world's hoping to save democracies. there's a lot of major shifts that have happened and it feels like that moment is going to be the moment where it's like, okay, it's done. this is decided and anything else in terms of how the party evolves has to be something that happens going forward. >> i pretty profoundly disagree with that and this gets back to something that you were talking about. back in the pleistocene era, like four hours ago here >> i think >> you look at the republican party too much through the prism of issues and policy i would give several digits if the republican party was taking issues and policy seriously. >> the >> singular issue about the defines the republican party is donald trump, period when i was growing up, you got called a rino or a squish. if you were moderate on abortion or tax cuts or defense or any of that kind of stuff? today, in trump has done this a half dozen times. what defines you as a rino is whether or not you were fully loyal to donald trump and donald trump does not give a rat's derriere about most policy issues. he doesn't want immigration. >> well, i started to person but that's but this is my point about why nikki haley's doing more significant than you were giving a credit for? because what she's doing is building a faction in the party that can say we're not that into you to donald trump, and that is hugely psychologically important. donald trump wants to tell the world as he just didn't that sound bite, the republican party has never been unified if we're the cliche now is that he's running as basically an incumbent. if an incumbent lost a state like south carolina, are one that's by south carolina, by only 60 points. that would be a disaster i just think it's we're looking at this in the wrong way. he's going to be the nominee. yeah. you know, nikki haley is going to drop out after super tuesday, probably but the issue that defines the gop more than any other thing is just simply wind loyalty to donald trump. >> i think that's the point you're making them about the question. >> your point was, well, it will overcome. well, the donor class overcome that. well, i think there's no, yeah, exactly. right. >> another way, the other issues you were talking about about foreign policy, domestic probably donald trump may be tougher on ukraine and jd vance wants him to be depends what donald trump feels like, whether he has a bad case of clams the night before or something like that. i mean, it just policy stuff. this doesn't drive it. we watched that in the debates and the republican primaries is the policy stuff in a fascinating point there, because i completely agree with threw jonah is donald trump has been privately and with this idea of sort of a 16 week federal abortion ban. now republicans had been basically not touching the idea of a federal abortion ban, but donald trump, to the degree that he cares about any policy, he fundamentally understands that no access to abortion or six weeks in some states is an absolute loser for republicans. this is him moderating beyond his base and a major way the republic welcome party we grew up in. you would not you can have a major party candidates saying 16 weeks as okay. but donald trump can do that and only donald trump can. and some voters will go with him and for a lot of moderates who are not die-hard on the issue, that's a comfortable enough place to be. i think democrats need to keep their eyes open to the fact that he can actually moderate on this issue, despite fingers people for being odd. >> i wholeheartedly agree with the fact that there's any moderation on the republican party on the issue of reproductive rights or abortion, regardless of whether or not at 16 weeks or whether or not you're looking at six weeks or whatever whatever republicans are donald trump is ruminating on, on his way back to play golf with lindsey graham republicans have become so extreme on the issue of abortion. >> nobody trust them. >> you're out of step with the majority of americans on that issue. you're out of step with the majority of women and men on the issue of abortion. one agree with the say, but not donald trump >> but i >> let me just put a bow on a real quick because i understand what she's trying to do, but what i can allow what i don't want to happen is for people to believe that there's any moderation in the republican party because it's simply not the problem for donald trump is that there's a hell of a lot of videotape of him boasting about being the guy who took down roe versus wade so he's trying to run away from something that was his signature on the primaries. but he's now trying to moderate for the general link to go away, right? because if you look at alabama, all of a sudden urine democrats are going to put the democrats are going to try and put this on the ballot. and a lot of these states. >> but one thing >> you know, there's sort of a metal the thing here, which is what the trump and the republican campaign really comes down to. one thing. their argument is the world's out of control and biden's not in command. and donald trump is in command. he's a commanding figure and that's what, that's what biden has to strategize against. but at the end of the day, this is going to be a battle of risk assessment among voters and who they feel poses the greatest we're gonna say. and it's to your point, >> acts before strength versus weakness that you're going to set the kinetic strength versus weakness. >> as can i ask a question, i'll go ahead. >> i mean, it's it's i think what democrats are looking at tougher us, strength versus weakness. it's also peace and prosperity. tropics are going to run as a peace and prosperity candidate, >> no evasions, no wars. >> that's easier to open over again when i was present, wouldn't have any wars that could economy was better before covid, you hear it from voters to like trump supporters they'll say, well, he'll prevent world war three. >> that's what they'll say, which is the opposite that most democrats see him. but there it is. so you have strength versus weakness. you have peace and prosperity versus war and inflation. and then at the end of the day, you do have this sense of change versus more of the same. there is a fatigue and part of, part of the russian propaganda model which we're all stuck inside of. and by the way, we cannot get away from the fact that people get in driven crazy by these devices. and it's not just corporate greed with the algorithms. it's also russia, china and iran are polarizing us. the point of polarization, russia backed trump and blm online just to make everybody crazy in the up fatigue and to give up. and that's then when authoritarians can have the most impact is when everybody is just so frustrated, they throw their hands up and so there's a whole thing happening here. and my concern is the biden campaign still thinks that there just one good press release or one good sound bite, one good policy away is a much bigger fight. we've got to fight here i just want to ask a question and get back to what what anderson originally asked us about superficialis tuesday, can i apologize? we're still at the end of the dented, but i'm lending it to thank so very much. so great. marked. okay. thanks. so is nikki haley a placeholder for this faction? and what happens to nikki haley on march 6, i mean, does she go away? how she chris christie herself, does she have a future in the republican party? she's got delegate. i mean, he doesn't because you will be at that. but i mean, more popular than chris >> i mean, i mean, i guess i'm asking like jonah and whoever 18 he delegates. right. is what i mean, it's going to look bigger number of delegates. she has also you get the count mentioned. she never she never had a >> traffic problem in fort lee. okay. like chris christie is unpopular and has his own problems for lots of reasons. she is different from chris christie. i'm and she was someone that always had a lot of credibility with i mean, obviously people like alyssa, right? like who? we're very staunch, very conservative, very turned off by donald trump. a lot of women, there is an jonah you keep saying this, there is a big constituency out there for that. they just haven't figured out a way to fit make the system give that person space and oxygen. and i think the challenge is going to be if it all falls a certain way, if donald trump loses spectacularly, gets convicted, et cetera, then there is going to be a chance to regroup, wins so many years. >> but i'm saying that i thought was smart and kinda glossed over earlier, which is nikki haley's going to have decisions to make. is that a third-party run? i don't know if that is the case. there's also the right handed to trump. there's the idea of leverage that if you do have about a third of the party with you, you can use that whether it's rules within the can i just add like but can she use that? i mean, what happens if that if it wasn't nikki haley, if it was just somebody else. i mean, it seems to be nikki is just a placeholder for the faction that doesn't like donald trump is not nikki haley that they like. >> i wouldn't assume that she has it's a third of the party though, because what's gonna happen at the end of the day is democrats are going to gravitate to biden because they fear trump. and republicans are going to gravitate to trump because they want to defeat one really quickly. >> anecdotally, and i get the central, i've never known so many lifelong republicans worked in republican politics that will not support donald trump this election, there is a tight ship that is unprecedented here and they're homeless republicans looking for somewhere to protecting the vote totals is more ballots are counted across south carolina. nikki haley hoping to walk away with the least some delegates tonight is don't want to take another step towards securing the gop nomination. lot more ahead. stay with us >> this is the big game time cain who that do >> thank jump purpose to find a place to rent. i know renters when i see him. who is this guy? >> it's the top priority when you move to a new city or galaxy apartments we can help you get enjoy lovely one bedroom, two bedroom. i don't want to presume anything >> i like these >> guys apartments.com, the place to find a place my store, my design business or exploded, but my old internet was not letting me run the show. so we switched to verizon business internet. they have 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united states today. look at this number here, 59%, so six in ten of trump voters in south carolina primary today are angry about the way things are going. another 30 25% dissatisfied, compare that to haley voters. they're, the majority are dissatisfied, 56%, but only 19%, are that angry emotion about the way things are going. so trump voters in for angrier group then that biden 2020 election lie, right? do you believe that joe biden legitimately won the election in 2020 among trump voters? only 11% believed that joe biden legitimately won the election. 87% wrongly believe he did not legitimately win the election. look at the different universe in a haley's voters three corners of haley voters, 76% say that joe biden legitimately won the last presidential election, one in five haley voters wrongly say he did not. dana two completely different universes of voters >> it's really stunning to see those numbers, particularly on that last subject, david, thank you so much joining our conversation now, republican strategist and pollster, kristen soltis anderson, along with democratic pollster margie omero. thanks so much for being here, especially at this it's laid our kristen, i want to start with you did donald trump did well with independence in 2016, are we saying that in this primary cycle? >> not at all. right. now, when you look at states like new hampshire, when people who are not registered or self-identifying republicans have the opportunity to participate. they are doing so mostly to make a statement against donald trump now it's hard to read anything from these primaries into a general election necessarily. we already know that if you are the sort of independent who doesn't like donald trump, you weren't going to vote for him anyways, that's kind of baked into the cake. but the number that i think is potentially troubling for trump is the fact that among these primary voters to the extent that there are folks that have decided, yes, we think donald trump's probably going to win, but we want to make a statement anyways, he needs to make sure that he is unifying the republican party, not shedding more and more voters, even as he sort of trounces his way through the primary, you need a unified party if you want any chance of winning in general and margie has anything changed between trump and his voters or does he have the same effect on them that we saw >> in 2,016.20, 20, even though trump is facing four criminal indictments >> i mean, he's almost like an estelle to act right where people are going to see a bank and the band is playing the same hits that he always played when there may be actually people actually do want to hear new things and he's not really offering new voters undecided voters, independent voters, people on the fence, people who may have wanted to vote or thought about voting for one of his opponents in the primary? mary, he's not really offering those people something new. and it's going to be obviously a real problem for him. and we did a focus group recently with undecided voters and we ask them what advice would you give to donald trump to win over undecided voters like yourselves? and they said things like, he needs to reach out, he needs to listen to people. he needs to welcome folks from other points of view. i mean, things that we have not seen donald trump do yet. >> dana, can i just jump in here for a second for it? the to me the big question when you look at all of these pieces of the haley coalition that are obviously resistant to trump, but are not huge slices of the party. >> the question is, >> how many of them fold into the party just because they wear the jersey in november and what is that slice that stays trump resistant because it could be consequential even if it is quite small in these battleground states. and i just think that is as as kristen was saying, you obviously need a unified party to be successful in a general election trying for the next nine months he wants to understand what is, what is that actual slice of the republican party that just won't bring themselves to vote for trump this time around. i think that's the ball game and trying to understand where this election guys and i would add, not just how big is is it also bigger than the other times there have been trumpers. it's an aspects of the republican party which we have seen in the past in these elections in both 2016 and in 2020 the other thing that i am observing a lot when i taught talk to voters, when you look listen to them on these election nights there are a lot of voters who might have been uncomfortable with donald trump in 2020 who have become numb to donald trump in 2024, and who are those voters? how will they factor into all of this? because there is something happening in the republican electorate, even if you just looked at the races that we've seen so far, where there are voters who you would normally think of as moderate leaning, who are happily casting ballots for donald trump in these primaries. and there is a risk for democrats they should not ignore the possibility that there are a lot of americans who are so dissatisfied, maybe they just want to break the glass. and there they're in nerd to what trump represented for the last two cycles >> an important point and chris and i'm gonna bring you in and just to piggyback off of what david was saying. the question that he posed about whether or not nikki haley's voters are going to end up just folding in to the report publican electorate and voting for donald trump in november and my question is, how important is it for joe biden to not just be the alternative? what does his hidden don't don't compare me to the alternative to the almighty. compare me to the alternative, but he has to be something that is really not just not trump to get those people from haley to biden maybe i mean, this is why i expect we're in for one of the nastiest presidential elections. we've ever seen because for both of these candidates, they are unknown quantity people know who donald trump is. they know who joe biden is. they may have forgotten a little bit of who donald trump is as he's been out of the white house over the last few years. >> but right now, both of >> them have problems with some piece of their party that is not enthused with them right now, joe biden has this as well. and the question is, are you going to win those folks back by making a case to them? here's what i would do. here's what i've done for you. here's why you should like me, even if you're worried about my age, my personality, my legal stuff, whatever it is or do you win by just saying, look how horrible the other guy is, and that's what i expect. we're going to see from both of these candidates to try to lock down their base. it will be more of a, how do i make you deathly afraid of this guy on the other side? that's what we're going to see from now till november, unfortunately. >> yeah. i think that's a question i 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country and his help you get the compensation you deserve. >> eight over 28 to 44, 44 south carolina voters have had their say, handing donald trump or resounding republican primary win and delivering a stinging feet, there, former governor nikki haley. now the focus shifts to the next contests as trump looks to clinch the gop nomination in the coming weeks, we do have an update now on the well cation of south carolina's 50 delegates. david chalian has that for us. david >> hey, kasie yeah it is not going to be a shutout for donald trump when it comes to the delegate totals out of south carolina? yes. he had a stunning victory, but nikki haley is actually going to pick up some delegates from her home state tonight we have allocated three delegates from the first congressional district in the state. that's where she picked those up. she won that congressional district and now you have donald trump we will be four. and nikki haley with three delegates and we still have three delegates unallocated of the overall 50 at stake demand in south carolina. now that's tonight. so we add to nikki haley's total here as well, because remember, in the upper right-hand corner, you need 1,215 delegates to become the republican nominee. donald trump currently standing on 107. nikki haley now up to 20 with the three she picks up in south carolina tonight so far? desantis at nine ramaswamy at three, obviously, trump with a big delegate lead here, but overall, no one's close to that 1,000 georgia and 15 yet because we've just had five contexts. so now this race gets turbo charged as we had in the michigan super tuesday and beyond in march, we are going to see a slew of delegates it's at stake. and that is donald trump's chance to bring this race to a close cases >> of course, haley's argument that she wants to see those people vote. john king, tell us why it is where it is that nikki haley found these three delegates. >> first, let the record reflect 11:34 p.m. and these david chalian gets us turbo charge. that's very important. >> no >> record. look it, say small victory for nikki haley in her home state to get three delegates, but it's a very small victory because as you see casey, she's getting trout 60% to 39% in her home state in a place where she wanted to make a statement. looks she wanted to win. she knew that was most unlikely. she wanted to at least get above new hampshire, which would have been 43, 45. she's getting less than 40, but but she does get these delegates. this is the county map you see the lines here now, 46 counties in south carolina. she is presently leading in three of them. so that's not a great performance in a state you were elected twice statewide as governor, but let's switch to the congressional district map and that's why she's getting the delegates. you see the first district down here here along the coast. you pop that out. she currently has 54% of the vote. we're about 80% through the so that is why she gets these three delegates. this congressional district. we have yet to project, yet this is the sixth congressional district starts up by columbia comes all the way down to the southern part of the state, as you can see at the moment of 52% for former president trump, 47 or 48% if you want to round that up for governor haley. so that's this is the one the three delegates remaining to be allocated. or in this district. so the most she could get his six or donald trump could get three more to add to his total and get 47 of the 50. now, i just want to make a point about this. look at this look at where she is getting the delegates. okay. look at this part of this state right here. i'm going to come back out to the county map. i'm going to move this over. this is donald trump's margin of victory tonight. let me show you what i mean by this. when you bring this up, you bring this up, hit the wind margin. the deeper red means donald trump is winning those places by a large amount. the pink means he's winning them by not quite as much. the yellow obviously are places governor haley he's wanting and the white is where it is very close, right? you're very close to donald trump's winning most of those. he's wanting all of those actually a bit by a smaller margin. now, why am i showing you this? where did she get the delegates? she got the delegates down here and she's winning here. and i'm going to continue the circle up to here a little bit donald trump is winning. he is showing a ton of strength with republicans in these early contests. he's now five. no, you cannot understate, you cannot overstate his resilience. his resilience in the republican party's, they can, but we're also learning something about his weaknesses. so you see the area because i circled there. why did i do that? want to bring this out and show you pop this out here. suburban areas, right? this is the suburbs. these are the suburbs where donald trump is not doing as well nikki haley's winning some of these places. >> donald trump's margin, if you come back to the margin, is not as big in some of these places, he runs it up kasie in the rural areas, donald trump has won 70, 73% of the county's donald trump has won so far nationally, have been rural counties, as he has mounted this lead, he still has a weakness in the suburbs. he's doing okay in the suburbs in these red states. but if you're looking for weakness is the suburbs. and what happens when we get to a general election. as you know well, the suburbs decide who wins pennsylvania, who wins wisconsin, who wins michigan, who wins arizona, who wins georgia. >> so a >> lot it's trump is showing a lot of strength in the republican primary. but as we study his strength, we also are seeing some weaknesses and they start just as they were in 2020 and in 2018 for the midterms, for republicans in america's suburbs. >> yeah, we might be talking about charleston tonight, but come november, it's going to be milwaukee, atlanta, phoenix, all of those places you mentioned, john. thank you very much. >> so i have to say >> my question here as we look at that map we look at where nikki haley's strengths are, right? >> she >> is going to have to get out of this race at some point. we don't exactly know when, but it's clear that donald trump is on a glide path to the nomination. >> if you're nikki haley, what do you do? do you endorse all sean, is it politically tenable for you to endorse donald trump? or is it politically tenable for you to not endorse donald trump? i mean, it's a really tough question. >> i think people are watching and wondering because admired nikki haley or disliked or for many years what she's gonna do next. i actually did not expect for her to go as hard against donald trump as she has in recent months, some of her statements, it would be remarkable to walk back and then come around and endorse him but we've seen crazier things in the donald trump-era >> she's burned the boats. she's not going back. >> i will tell you that day after january 6, she appeared before the republican national committee and she said, we never should have followed him, we should not follow him again. and she got she's booster for that and she backtracked off of that. so she's shown some agility when it comes to moving around i'm interested to see what she does and i think what she does will give you some clue to how she's thinking about the future. >> because i think what would be kind of hard is let's say she stays out of this race, doesn't endorse donald trump. there isn't really a pulse political future. they're not for lack of talent, but she's going to have been out of office for quite some years having not been un ambassador and well over six years at that point, it's hard to just as a private sector citizen, unless you're donald trump, launch yourself into a campaign. so i think she'd have to be at peace with the fact this is the end of politics for me, i may be a leader on the outside and we do. >> and by the way, being dropped throttled other words that john king is used, i can't there's enough exploits you've lost every race. she's been badly. >> yeah. you think that you think about these three young figures a decade ago that scared us as democrats looking at the republican party, at marco rubio, young bright latino you had nikki haley with her indian american roots and you had tim scott and all three of them came on stage for nikki haley's campaigns. and i looked at said, this is a very formidable republican party. they were moderate in some ways, appealing. they weren't playing racial politics, they weren't playing trial and now you look at how they've gone marco rubio is a rubber stamp or anything. trump says tim scott is trying to crawl onto the ticket somehow. and nikki haley stands alone. and i think it's worth pointing out that of those three and you wouldn't have known any of the stuff at the time, nikki haley is of those three, she's john more principle and more strength in, at least in the past few months than i've seen for the other shoe. >> if only one correction to that, there's a fourth person on the stage and that famous picture, trey gowdy, and he left congress a lot of people, mike gallagher, i think could have been one of the great leaders of the repub

marco rubio was on that list, and they had a deal of comprehensive immigration reform back when president obama was president. what happened in the end right before the election when trump was running in 2016, marco rubio pulled out at the last minute. again, the influence of donald trump pushing to destroy the deal down there. that included increased security, a pathway for citizenship, the dreamers act. host: got you, tom. thank you for the call. the caller referenced vice president kamala harris. there was an interview yesterday that former president trump at least possibly teased who he could be looking at as the vp nominee. here is part of that interview from yesterday. [video clip] >> when will you announce who your vp is? >> after a while. so many good people in the republican while but not for a while. >> what criteria are using to identify who your running mate is? >> it is who will be president. you always have to think that because in case of emergency, things happen. >> who is your running mate? >> i have a lot of good people. we have a lot of really good people. >> so you have not decided? >> i have a lot of good ideas but there is no reason -- i speech everybody. i told tim scott th

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>> i didn't say that. i did say that you have to -- you're not going to get a great border bill, don't do a bill. if you're not -- if it's not going to solve the border problem, don't do the bill. that was very important to me. a lot of people do call me. they respect me. they say, what do you think? if the bill is not going to be a great bill and really solve the problem, i wouldn't do it at all. not for political reasons. just for u.s. reasons. >> martha: let's bring in marcoio, vice chairman of the intelligence committee and a member of the foreign relations committee. he endorsed former president trump last month. good to have you with us. thanks very much. let's start there. is this a good bill and is it going to fix the problem to your satisfaction and are you supporting it? >> well, first of all, we don't know what the bill is. it's not out yet. i can't give you an opinion on a bill that isn't written, nobody has read. nobody has seen it yet. doesn't mean it's bad or good. i don't know what it is. joe biden does not need a bill if he wants to enforce the border. this border crisis began when he took office because on his first day in office, he wiped out all the trump proposals. people coming here illegally, they don't know the immigration laws. they don't know the details of asylum laws. what they know is if you come, turn yourself in, they will process you and release you and probably get to stay here the rest of your life. that's what they know bec

marco rubio among the people who raised concerns back then. but now in 2024, should americans count on this being nothing more than trump not talking like a traditional politician? >> i'm actually more shocked by marco rubio's comments than donald trump's comments actually. donald trump, we all on this panel understand, he treats international relationships the same way he treats personal relationships which is, if you're with me, great, i'm with you. if it's not good for me, then you're expendable. he's done that through his entire life. now he's basically saying internationally, if you don't do what i want, you're expendable and go by the wayside which obviously, as evelyn knows, would destroy the post world peace built since world war ii among these allied countries which nato is an integral part of that. what marcoic argument, and many other republicans as julie knows since she talks to them, we're going to support this guy to be president of the united states, and we don't trust anything he says and you shouldn't believe everything he says. everything he says is a word salad. we trust him on the world stage even though nothing of what he says is probably u troo or we actually want to implement, but go ahead and support this guy to be leader of the free world. that to me is basically insane and dangerous in the course of this, that you would make an argument that it's okay that the president of the united states has no idea how to handle international relations and we shouldn't trust anything he says but go ahead and vote for him. >> evelyn, the wall street editorial board says no wonder mr. putin is looking so confidence, adding, deterrence depends on a combination of force and the will to use it. mr. trump's boast that he wouldn't aid an ally will sew doubt in the minds of our allies and putin

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marco rubio was on the floor the next day talking about those comments and other efforts by the biden duration, other response efforts by the biden administration to that war. this is marco rubio from friday. >> today, we read that the white house has sent top aides from the white house to michigan to meet with some of these activists, to see if we can somehow bring them around to vote for him in november. you know who some of these people were? more than one of them were people who had openly been supportive of hamas and hezbollah. at least one of them is a guy who is public the set on multiple occasions that the u.s. is controlled by jewish money. that is who the white house went to meet with yesterday. and then we retreated to a press conference and what i imagined was an unscripted moment, maybe not, israel's response to hamas has been over the top. which is ironic because i support israel funding and here we are today to announce a bill that has all this money for israel, which i support, so what every funding? we are funding israel's over-the-top campaign against hamas? it doesn't make any sense except politics. that is not politics. host: marco rubio on friday. the bill that he is referring to ended up passing this morning in the united states senate about an hour ago, approved in that $95 billion aid package for israel, ukraine, taiwan as well. and one more note on marco rubio, there is a column in today's washington crimes about -- washing the antiwar protesters blocking a highway and blocking traffic to get attention for their protest. the senator has drawn up the state passage on interstate act, that legislation set to be introduced in the house and senate decriminalize any intentional obstruction of a highway that occurs without proper authorization. wants to make that a federal crime. this is steven in robbinsville, missouri. your next. caller: i think the biden administration doing about right. let's face it, war is hell, nobody wants to see innocent civilians killed. hiding behind civilians just like they're doing in ukraine. a bill without republicans, the majority of the american people to support ukraine, do suppo

marco rubio, vice chairman of the senate intelligence committee. a similar position was unpopular just a few months ago, with many congressmen refusing to discuss the possibility of any ukrainian losses, including territorial ones, but now marcoey go directly to nato, the first is a complete escalation, entry, in fact, as in the middle east, which they cannot afford, the second is a complete withdrawal economically, normal, but big, big reputational losses for the united states as empires, the middle - this is essentially afghanistan of the previous spill, smooth donor assistance to ukraine so that they do something. sabotage, some nasty things, that in 2 years the exhaustion will naturally end, as for, in fact, this leads to the position towards nato, this is the essence of external politicians, you pay for yourself, we don’t interfere with you, if you pay, we will come to your aid, if you don’t pay, we leave you on your own, but most importantly, in america’s geostrategy there is only one, only principle, it will never allow a hegemon to happen in one region, therefore, no matter what europe does, it will always be weakened until the moment that the european union does not become. i’m just now starting to somehow arrange my

marco rubio was on that list, and they had a deal of comprehensive immigration reform back when president obama was president. what happened in the end right before the election when trump was running in 2016, marco at the last minute. again, the influence of donald trump pushing to destroy the deal down there. that included increased security, a pathway for citizenship, the dreamers act. host: got you, tom. thank you for the call. the caller referenced vice president kamala harris. there was an interview yesterday that former president trump at least possibly teased who he could be looking at as the vp nominee. here is part of that interview from yesterday. [video clip] >> when will you announce who your vp is? >> after a while. so many good people in the republican while but not for a while. >> what criteria are using to identify who your running mate is? >> it is who will be president. you always have to think that because in case of emergency, things happen. >> who is your running mate? >> i have a lot of good people. we have a lot of really good people. >> so you have not decided? >> i have a lot of good ideas but there is no reason -- i speech everybody. i told tim scott this. i called him