. >> rose: we conclude with variance cause varekova, patrick bergin and marcus asner what's happening in africa. >> definitely it was a hunting for trophy. but in china, the story behind owning an ivory, it's a symbol of wealth. this is mythology ingrained in their culture but yes education, yes, everything that could be but going against 2000 years of history. >> rose: crises in ukraine and the future of elephants in africa when we continue. funding for charlie rose is provided by the following: >> there's a saying around here: you stand behind what you say. around here, we don't make excuses, we make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up and make it right. some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where it's needed most. but i know you'll still find it, when you know where to look. >> rose: additional funding provided by: >> and by bloomberg. a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york c

marcus asner is an attorney and is on the residence advisory council for wildlife trafficking.leased to have you all here with me. this is an important conversation. tell me about the magnificence of the elephant. period. >> for all of us, elephants represent savannah, africa, the great landscape, the serengeti. and then their behavior, the way elephants treat their young, the way they live in complex societies. for so many of us, elephants are evocative what africa is. >> and they are not alone in terms of wildlife in trouble. >> it is so magnificent and so diverse. there are the great cats -- the lions, the leopards, the cheetah. >> all under threat. >> if you look at numbers, they are plummeting and it's very alarming. four of the five great apes in the world are in africa. there are orangutans, bonobos, chimpanzees. as central african forest are being logged and being captured for the pet trade, they are also under threat. really, it's about wildlife generally. africa is undergoing economic modernization. but we hope is that it does not lose its wildlife in the course of th