. >> marcus borg and john crossland, say the last week in jesus life, they are saying hosanna the peasant praised god and pilot has the empire so it is bound to be a clash. >> pilot is beholden to his minders. he has a tenuous position if he doesn't behave in a certain way he will get in trouble himself people of that time that had several insurrections, several problems the roman soldiers had to put down. but i do believe jesus was counter to many civilizations that are built on police force, violence, keeping people down, and so it is -- it was bound to happen that he would come to clash with the authorities of the time. >> that is great. thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. very much connected to dealing with what is going on here not something way after we've gone. >> that's right. a good time to be a christian and person, follower of jesus, who is a person who believes in healing and peace and regard for the neighbor. >> thank you brian for being with us. i hope you have been with us this has been a great program i think and we are praying that you might have a time of resur