> suarez: nina, james, thank you both. >> you're welcome >> woodruff: and to the analysis of brooks and marcus. "new york times" columnist david brooks and "washington post" columnist ruth marcus. mark shields is off tonight. welcome to you both. so just david, just picking up on ray's interview. how do you see the affect of the court rule on voting rights? what does it mean for minority voters? >> i'm struck first of all by this but in that interview, what harm was section 4 doing, you know, aside from setting aside the constitutional, was it caughting any problems. i don't think it was causing any problems, giving the history of this country. i think when you estimate how much actual effect it's going have on actual voters, one, you've got a real issue which we propet allly deal with. how much racism is in society that is just waiting for the chance to exercise itself. and i confess, i don't know the answer to that question. but we may be about to find out. but i will say if any party does, and i think is this a lesson in the last section, if anybody does voter suppression thinking it will h