he held marcus garvey get out of jail back in the 1920's. a pastor, an activist, i great preacher, all of these great things that instill values in children. >> host: where did you live and how did he die? >> guest: guys, well, killed by the black legion, i group with the kkk back in the 1920's during the great depression. and you know they put him, you know, not in the greatest situation, but he was killed did talk about in his autobiography. just really an invincible. the strength of the family. he would take his son with them when he was speaking to the community about self-reliance, about perseverance, working hard, the importance of education, all of these things. >> host: what was malcolm levels lifelike? >> guest: my father's childhood was an exceptional you know, he had so many siblings played much like my own, it gives you the sense of, you know, tenacity camino, makes a good friend. both of the parents that would enable him to go on in his adult life. one of the greatest political strategists, a humanitarian us, just so many wonder