after marcus garvey and black nationalism we are now starting to get out of that and seeing the connections to africa. howard has influenced the very unique development of african americans the names do matter. even if it is an idea of reinventing urself. >> what is your view on the new tax for the same outcome as far as the government relationship with industry and modern-day slavery in the form of mass incarceration? dr. perry: i wish michelle alexander was here. the new jim crow is a great book. what i usually tell my students is that here is evidence that just as we use language today to convey the intensity of certain points. changing somebody's name, if you have seen roots, which i think is being remade by the history channel, kunta kinte contested the name and he was beaten into submission to accept the name. privately he still called himself that. there was a deliberate social conditioning to accept the names jefferson or johnson or these anglo names to forget the heritage. former slaves would talk about africa they would largely modeled the beliefs of their white counterparts. this

hoover took a bit more time evaluating west indian newcomer, marcus garvey. . .

problems with what he said, but he says, in fact, americans have often seen such figures, including marcus garveyhe just used to have the good sense to dismiss them. what we haven't seen are the modern day keepers of conservatism developing school girl crushes on the bad boy of the gop class. what do you think about that? >> i'm not one to speak about conservative talk radio, i guess, i'm the antithesis of it when you thing about it, but it's identity radio. and it is very influential. i think what the consultants for the candidates need to understand is that unless something is changed, talk radio probably is the second most listened to radio format in the country. second only to country and western. so what you have are people who, one, have a loyal audience. you have a town hall debate, nonscripted, sometimes nonfiltered conversation, all wrapped into one. that's why they are so -- it's so influential. when i hear the names and the reality is that this is what makes talk radio what it is today. >> heidi, isn't it the point, too, that the week, michael brendan doherty talked about the symbiosis

so this is the son of marcus garvey, his name is julius garvey. he's a retired cardiac surgeon who lives on long island. he's a very unassuming african-american sunni sis and the only thing that would give away as his father politics is on his lapel is the pen the pan african pen that subtly tells you who prodigy he is. the other reveal was the son of martin luther king junior. martin luther luther king the third was pictured here with his sister. it's isaiah washington there. and hope masters who is the daughter of lyons cell then, and gina page two started african ancestry with rick kittle. what's fascinating is that about the y chromosome of garvey's son and martin luther king son traced to europe. in the mitochondrial dna traced africa. so they find out later that they were told the results in advance so they are allowed to speak about what the results mean to them. garvey son as you would not be surprised to hear talks about the history of the trans-atlantic slave trade and how the brutality of the history and the sexual violence makes his y

tradition and practice at the schomburg center -- from the soapbox preachers of the 1920s and the marcus garvey community, to the james baldwins and langston hugheses, to the malcolm xs in the 1960s -- all circulated in and out of the space that the schomburg center inhabits. so, if hillary clinton, as a presidential candidate, wants to talk about the future of black america, then she's in a place that's been fundamental to what we call the black public sphere. >> and of course the schomburg will continue to be fundamental. >> absolutely. >> well, we have to say that we have you here -- that you were going to be leaving the schomburg center. you're gonna be heading to harvard university. you know, talk to us a little bit about this next move for you. >> sure. well, first of all, i want to say that having been at the schomburg center for five years, we've gotten a lot done. and we've moved the schomburg center from a place that has always been really critical but maybe not as now we have 300,000-plus people coming through our doors. we have programs that are very much pitched to a wider audience

he ignited a firestorm within the so-called talented contempt among marcus garvey's followers and ridicule from the small activist readers from randolph's messenger magazine advertised as the only radical magazine and others are only pretending. that bonded them as close as two internationals could be. two elitists in white and brown. in supporting them, they believed he could accommodate both show of annism and integration that black shoulders led by a talented officer could purchase full participation in the american promise with their deeds. there was more to come with the collaboration. the departure was delayed by a hernia. he had unpatriotic remarks supposedly made for the officer at the training camp. that was a front and quite probably motivated in part by anti-semitism. he had himself placed in the army's branch in april of 1918 where he propose the posed the creation of an intelligence unit. a subsection for special work negro subversion. they wanted to monitor the participation and the van of military intelligence with the name of marlboro churchill was favorably disposed even a

hoover took a bit more time evaluating west indian newcomer, marcus garvey. . . that infuriated the director convincing him that the jamaican immigrant was of grave danger. that the elapsed since the general counsel of the powful united company that had written to warn the secretary of state that unless actions are taken, the activities of latin america might repeat the french experience in haiti. in cuba, it has become significant enough for the president to entertain the officers of the uss frederick douglass. his magistrate secretary of state for the colonies received credible warnings of the movement in the newspapers that were fomenting racial discord among whites i white in color ae british empire. the american secretary of state the leadership began to feel threatened from boston and influential baptist root in alarm to the crisis that the increasing number of our own people joining the city's new uni a -- unia is of concern, the reverend thompson employed dubois. he warned him that they absolutely repudiated the caribbean. they will in the end to punish t

intelligence division devoted to monitoring negro subversion conducted surveillance on wb do boys, marcus garvey, and others. this is not a thing of the past. last year the intercept report of the activities of the black lives matter movement for being monitored by the department of homeland security. if you can name a prominent african-american civil rights leader of the 20th or 21st centuries, chances are significant that he or she has been surveilled and usually in the name of national security. you can think that when congress debated nsa reform all of this would be at the front of their minds. particularly because just a few months after the snowflakes the nsa revealed that in addition to the fbi in their own wiretap of martin luther king jr. the nsa had itself wiretapped doctor king. and yet with only a few important exceptions congress did not talk about any of this. in fact, it appears that during the two years of nsa debates no one ever spoke martin luther king jr.'s name. frankly most americans were not talking about it either. instead, itinstead, it seems as if we are having to almost

du bois, marcus garvey and others. this pattern isn't a thing of the past. just last year, the intercept reported that the activities of the black lives matter movement were being monitored by the department of homeland security. if you can name a prominent african-american civil rights leader of the 20th or 21st centuries, chances are significant that he or she has been surveilled, and usually in the name of national security. you think that when congress debated nsa reform, all of this would be at the front of their minds, particularly because just a few months after the snowden leaks, the nsa revealed that in addition to the fbi and their own wiretap of martin luther king jr., the nsa had itself wiretapped dr. king. and yet, with only a few important exceptions, congress didn't talk about any of this. in fact, in the senate, it appears that during the two years of nsa debates, no one ever spoke martin luther king jr.'s name. but frankly, most americans weren't talking about it either. instead, it seems as if we're having two almost entirely separate debat