i had a young man who lived with me for two years marcus latrelle and i'm going to stand up for thoseng men and whether you're trying to shoot at somebody else and the bullet went through them and hit them, that's fine i stand by what i said. maria: governor, earlier we had on art laffer who worked with president reagan. what do you think-- he says the most important fiscal change that we need to see, fiscal regulation is tax reform. how does your-- what is your vision for tax reform, governor? >> well, obviously, lowering the corporate tax rate. i've got two things that go hand in hand, using north american energy, there's more energy in canada, united states and mexico than in russia, and saudi arabia. you use that, drive down the cost of electricity and couple that with lowering the corporate tax rate and and you'll get back on shore and you want to get america back to work again, that's the quickest way to do that, lower that corporate tax rate and couple it with a driving down of the cost of electricity. you get americans back to work. maria: i like it. >> and salaries, for mid l