i'm back with our panel, marcus mabry, seema iyer, and igor volsky.rials, this is a broader societal problem for black men and young boys. >> we could actually say that the entire edifice of modern society in the united states was built on the notion that black people were an inherent threat to it. and that that evidence was rooted in a statistical analysis of black people being incarcerated or arrested. but what we know is that at the earliest possible moment when black people stepped into freedom, when black men tried to build their families and their homes, they were subject to criminal surveillance, because they challenged the status quo. we can never separate out, therefore, their attempts to actually make america the country it claims to be, and then being subject to criminalization. that's a fact! it's the jim crow story. it's the story that we actually already know. but the notion, somehow, that that story is the past, that there's an invisible moment in time that we can say, it's 1968 or 1973 or '64, is absurd! because it's so deeply rooted i