by my guest in moscow he's a political analyst with international and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor of politics first magazine or a gentleman cross talk rules and a. that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate marcus i want to talk about nato and i'm going to use the words of nato from the nato secretary general stoltenberg and he addressed congress last week it was a real spectacle and i'm going to ask you and deem it to reflect upon it so let's go to this. we do all this not to provoke a conflict but to prevent complet and to preserve peace not to fight but to deter not to attack but to defend how do we act to that markets go ahead. well nato is an offensive criminal and degenerate organization that is the root cause today of instability in the poconos and in eastern europe in essence way finds in eight hundred you find instability and societal degeneration the americans have used nato you over the last thirty also years to achieve global dominance and they continue to use nato not just to maintain their global dominance of the two in the h