they probably end up in a warehouse run by marcus shen, the coo of a company called v stock sourcing that auctions off literally tons of return merchandise. he says the amount of stuff they have to deal with jumped 30% in the first quarter the month following the holidays. marcus, welcome. let's start with where all this stuff comes from. how did it get to you? >> so we're a marketplace. so on both sides of the marketplace, we have sellers. those typically are retailers, brands, manufacturers who have this type of excess merchandise. so it won't be returns like you were talking about or even overstock inventory. >> so what is in it for the companies that are sending it to you? do you pay them upfront, or do you give them a cut of the auction? >> yeah. no. the great thing about our model is we're a marketplace. so our primary role is to use technology to match sellers with buyers. and, so, the benefit to them is that they are able to sell to a huge network of buyers who are, you know, ultimately going to sell this inventory downstream to consumers like you and me. >> i was just kind o