. >> you have to know where to look for the deals and here is marcy gonzales. >> reporter: shoppers hopingavoid the black friday rush and can cash on deals rolling out and wall mart with 55-led for more than 750 off and home depot offering the vacuum for 325 off but some experts say it's worth waiting. >> the best deals are actually after black friday the stores want to get rid of merchandise. >> reporter: it's a good time to buy electronics and smartphones but don't buy toys and clothing just yet those prices go down the closer it gets to christmas, the biggest discounts will also be on line experts recommend putting your wish list in a shopping cart and holding off until the price goes down to check out and offer this tip to decide if something is a bargain or a bust. stores tend to break even when you see a 10-20% discount. when you start seeing 30, 40, 50 and even 60-75% off that is when you really get the best deals. >> reporter: the you are hoping to look for those deals on thanksgiving many retailers tell us they will be closed for the holiday this year marcy gonzales santa monica c

marcy gonzales is live in los angeles with the latest. >> we learned today all the people killed were adults and at least seven children were injured and the sheriff's office is releasing chilling new details about the first victim in the shooting spree. >> investigators say that the rampage that left five innocent people dead began in the gunman's own home saying they found the body of kevin neil's wife under the floorboards. >> we are confident that he murdered her and literally just put her body in the floor. >> prosecutors say that neil was out on bail on an assault with a deadly weapon charge accused of stabbing his neighbor in january and they believe that that neighbor may have been one of the targets on tuesday. >> he had a desire to kill as many people as he could. >> the first call came in at 7:54 a.m. the gunman shooting into homes and then driving to this elementary school. >> one of the teachers came out around the building and run inside the shooter is coming. >> and neil used a truck to ram his way through the fence and fire at least 30 rounds leaving one student in cri

marcy gonzales joins us with more. >> reporter: the accuser says she was inspired by the bravery of other women that came forward to tell their stories of encounters with other men and after 11 years she is now going public with a humiliating demeaning experience in the hope of encouraging other potential victims. >> this photo of leanna sleep on a flight back to los angeles during a uso tour. >> his hands on my breasts. >> part of her allegations against al franken. >> you betrayed my trust. >> a former model now a news anchor. 2006 during a rehearsal in afghanistan that franken wrote to perform for troops, the former snl writer and anchor forcibly kissed her and put his hand on the back of my head and it happened so fast and stuck his tongue down my mouth and i pushed him off with my hands. >> franken responded in a statement that reads in part. i'm sorry i don't remember the rehearsal as leanne does, i believe we have to listen to and believe women's experiences and i don't know what was in my head when i took the picture, i look at it now and feel disgusted with myself. >> the apology

, you will get great deals which is awesome but these do sellout really quickly. >> reporter: marci gonzalesor abc news los angeles. >> what will they think of next. >> for sure. >> much more to come on "action news" at 5:00 a car lands on the set of railroad track we will see what happens and what happened to the driver as well. >>> you eat normally on some days but others you eat very little, what doctors are saying about intermittent fasting, and the trends, still ahead. >>> tonight at 5:30, marchers are taking to the streets of hollywood and taking a stand against sex assaults and harassment that comes in the wake of the harvey weinstein scandal and dozens of other accusation as begins men in hollywood. abc reporter brian clark has more now on the me too, march. >> reporter: victims of sexual assault and supporters, marching in hollywood on sunday called me too march after trending #of recent weeks. the women, and some men feeling empowered to add their voices, joining a social moment. >> sexual violence is something we have seen in the work place which is where this began, but, sexual v