do you think margaret brennan should be deported? [inaudible] >> i am completely persuaded. to people who were in regular immigrants. i wonder what we should do practically. will be an code in the law and amnesty policy? >> that is my proposal and it is not just hypothetical. the french had such a law that worked perfectly well that established a few live there for seven years without authorization your given legal status. as a practical matter you say wait a minute, we worry about getting too many people and this is an invitation, it seems to me the focus has to be on employers sanctions. you remove the incentive for people to work. we accept the premise you get to control these things. the focus should be on the employer's. serious regulation of employer sanctions. maybe another technique that needs to be used is id cards. various of these things -- there are tensions among these things. people object to employer sanctions wind up being used in a discriminatory way. that is a relevant moral consideration. it is often the case that whatever policy we adopt there will be obj