you know, margaret thatcher, handed over to john leisure with our general election. or, you know, tony blair handed over to gordon bry without a general election. a david cameron had handlers to resume without general action. you can do it once. so brochures for his job now to list trust new ones. you can do twice. well that spring in now roger castle, he's a former u. k. labor party m p, and founder of new europeans. he joins us from warsaw. good to have you us. so are you a say what 2nd time? 3rd time, i don't know how many time lucky do you think the conservatives can get it right now. how much confidence do you have in the next prime minister? well, we need to know the next 5 minutes is going to be. we seen so many in the last few years that may be that many still to come at least trust had to leave because the conservative party stripped will have policies of a program of purpose for being government. but she, in turn strip the conservative party of their reputation for economic competence, credibility, and international mark kits. i'm probably the confidence of the public, so whoever that person will be is