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>> "firing line with margaret hoover" is made possible in part by... and by... corporate funding is provided by... >> representative nancy mace, welcome to "firing line," >> and thank you so much for having me. >> your journey has taken you from the waffle house to the u.s. house of representatives, where you now represent south carolina's 1st congressional district. >> mm-hmm. >> you were the first female to graduate from the citadel. you're a single mom. you're a survivor of sexual assault. >> mm-hmm. >> at the outset of your second term in congress, how does your background and your own personal experiens inform the policy positions you take? >> well, my experiences, especially my rough start and being raped at the age of 16, i dropped out of school at 17, and that's when my parents said, "if you're going to stop going to school, you have to start going to work." and i took a job as a waitress at a waffle house on the side of the interstate. and i learned some very tough lessons during some very tough times in my life. and i learned about surviving, i learned

. >>> joining us to strus, alice stewart and margaret hoover host of pbs's "firing line." d interesting, margaret, is this push for more information on the documents. this is really bipartisan at this point. is this a point of unity we can see in this congress that could actually point to some action here? >> there clearly is a bipartisan problem in terms of taking and retaining classified documents which are, by the way, our property. these are property of the people. this society is governed by the people where we lend power to our elected representatives. if they all have classified documents, it obviously begs the question do they all do this? i spoke to a senior official from a former administration a couple days ago who said, yeah, everybody does it, how do you think they write their books. the national archives and records administration i hope will help us get to the bottom of this problem and stop it. >> i wonder, as a practical matter, has the involvement of trump, biden and now pence effectively neutralized this as a political issue for 2024? >> in most textbooks

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and now margaret hoover is with me, host of firing line on pbs and a staffer at george w. bush white house. margaret, let's start where evan ended reporting that obviously special counsel had been recommended, but it was the handling this week that they did not disclose all the documents when the first batch came to light, that according to his source sort of tipped the -- tipped the scales here for garland to go the direction of a special counsel. >> they -- merrick garland almost had no choice but to appoint a special counsel in the sense he has a former president who's being investigated in a documents case. in order to even have the appearance of handling this and the appearance of a fair and flat playing field he had to appoint a special counsel. there are a couple of things. first of all, it doesn't bring great comfort that joe biden thinks his documents are in great shape buzz the corvette is there and he really loves the corvette, so government secrets are in good shape. >> a slip of the tongue wasn't the best moment. >> perhaps not the best moment. but one thing th