still with me are bob miller, jim karen, and margaret patel. aret, to begin with, you want issuance, it was a very dry december. i want to get my hands around the maturity yield that will build through 2020. how big is it? margaret: i think the supply will continue to be relatively low. especially with this move up in rates. a lot of what would have come as issuance has been drained into the loan market rather than the high-yield bond market and that's a reason why supply has been so low. i'm not looking for any big increases in high-yield issuances this year. jim: i agree. i think the maturity wall is nothing to worry about, the yields are also higher right now. they are almost 8%. last year, they were at 5.8% to close out january. i think there are some opportunities. the economy is slowing but it's not collapsing so default risk will still be in the low 2% level, versus the long-term average of 3% to 4%. i think there is still opportunity there and with lower supply, you will be better. bob: i agree with that. i think risk premiums have been