that is margaret peterlin who works with secretary tillerson.ell us about her role in how -- and how important she has become. >> she has become one of the most influential figures in the department and certainly one of the most powerful. she's not very well-known, though she served on the hill for a long time as a staffer and has really become rex tillerson's most trusted aide. where we have seen her influence lately is on some big hiring decisions. the head of policy planning, she brought in the guy who is leading that. a man named brian hook. she introduced rex tillerson to the man would become the deputy secretary of state. john sullivan, whose nomination was confirmed last week. oliver: you probably know more about secretary tillerson than me. he seems like an old-fashioned guy who gives his trust out, not exactly hand over fist. how did she earn the trust of -- earning the trust of this man? >> peterlin was identified to help shepherd rex tillerson through the nomination process and confirmation with the senate. so she quickly gained his t