we want to talk about that with margaret steinfels, former editor in chief of "commonweal" magazine, now co-director of the center on religion and culture at fordham university. she joins us from new york how do you describe the range of reactions among the u.s. catholic laity? >> i think that many people are

we want to talk about that with margaret steinfels, former editor in chief of "commonweal" magazine, now co-director of the center on religion and culture at fordham university. she joins us from new york how do you describe the range of reactions among the u.s. catholic laity? >> i think that many people are surprised that this has come back on the tv screen and the newspapers. american catholics went through this a couple times before, most recently in 2002, and i would say that at this point there is among many people a sort of battle fatigue-- "why hasn't this been dealt with?" >> abernethy: has it increased divisions among catholics here or increased divisions between the laity here and the hierarchy? >> i don't know that it... i guess we could say that it has increased the ongoing factionalism of the church, where the right declares this is the problem of the sex revolution of the '60s and homosexuality in the clergy; people on the left say, "no, no, if we had women priests, bishops and cardinals, this would never happen." so i don't know that there are additions to this, but i