joined now by cnn political analyst and senior white house correspondent for bloomberg news, margaret talevand npr justice correspondent, carrie johnson. good to see you all. margaret, you first. any closer to some sort of budget deal? >> well, the conventional wisdom on both sides of the aisle right now is that nobody wants to have a government shutdown this week, so the talk is centered around how to kick it another several weeks, believe it or not, into late march. there are a couple of things to keep your eye on, though. and maybe the most important one of those is that debt ceiling, which is not the same thing, but is going to run out around mid-march. and so once again, it sounds like a familiar story. we've seen it before. these things are becoming coupled and could lead to a shutdo showdown, if not this week, in mid-march. >> so lauren, prior to the last shut down, just about three weeks ago, daca was a major sticking point, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell assured democrats that he would bring a bill to the floor. perhaps by this deadline of february 8th. so any movement on t