steve was talking about margaret thatcher before. in the 805 they said there i5 before.805 they said there is no alternative, now you have incredibly weak there5a may and it i5 incredibly weak there5a may and it is still tina, there is no alternative. i5n't is still tina, there is no alternative. isn't that what is keeping her in office in the first place? yes. if there was a formidable figure waiting in the wings, if they're worth the equivalent, as there was in 1990 when margaret thatcher finally fell and michael heseltine, john major and michael heseltine, john major and douglas hurd. .. and michael heseltine, john major and douglas hurd... i don't think she would be here now. the fact is there isn't. those who want to be leader aren't sure they would win at this point, so they are not clamouring for a leadership contest they might lose. that keeps her in place. this is the worst thing which could happen to this country, in thi5 could happen to this country, in this critical time you need not fragile government, you need a 5trong government, otherwise we will be black

kate, the daily mail have this story about a statue of the iron lady, margaret thatcher.g blocked because it might be eight target for vandals. they say left-wing activists might use this statue as a point of protest and we have seen before that the winston churchill statue there has from time to time ended up with a code on its head and it is the most dishes that will thing andl it is the most dishes that will thing and i can understand the concerns about having lady that you —— lady thatcher, statue of her there andl —— lady thatcher, statue of her there and i think why should we not celebrate her and make sure she is there so that people can see it and it is also part of our political history as well. somebody's phone is ringing! we will politely ignore it! not mine! the times have got a story about the hard left in a plot to oust dozens of labour mps. about the hard left in a plot to oust dozens of labour mp5. the section hit list as corbyn takes an 8—point lead. section hit list as corbyn takes an 8-point lead. just when you think things might have been going the rig

it is margaret thatcher's vision, that there is no such thing as this society. ect healthcare and social security, and it is finishing the job that reagan and thatcher started. margaret thatcher believed in a community of communities, that society remark. misquoted her. laughter donald trump has tapped into the zeitgeist. two thirds of american voters who don't have a degree voted for him. i don't know if it was the zeitgeist. i45 academics and writers issued a statement in support of trump, and one was a philosophy professor at the university of texas, he said trump is pro—american, concerned about immigration because of economic effects and about factories closing down. these are not... trump is concerned about donald trump. this is his animating mission in life. it is to enrich himself and build himself up. anybody who tells themselves otherwise is... you are dismissing a lot of people who voted for him. i am not dismissing all of the people who voted for him. he ran a deeply dishonest campaign at a moment which, as you say, he tapped into the antiestablishmen

believe me if you have a long enough memory to go back to the 19805, a conservative government and margaret thatcherhe was the secretary of state for education and education was up there at the top of the political agenda. here we are, the free 5chool5 at the top of the political agenda. here we are, the free schools are under threat from budget raid. all thei55ue5 under threat from budget raid. all the issues around education are coming up to the top of the agenda and there are some tricky i55ue5 coming up to the top of the agenda and there are some tricky issues for any government to face. staying with the times, councils bet billions on property purchases. an interesting story. british councils are betting on commercial property as they tried to replace revenue loss through government cut5. there is a quote that says council5 might as well be buying 5hare5 that says council5 might as well be buying shares with public money or betting on the 230 and scott. that i5 betting on the 230 and scott. that is the comparison that he makes. it i5 is the comparison that he makes. it is all a sign of the desp

and the daily mail headlines that plans for a statue of the late margaret thatcher to be placed outside we will talk in more detail about some of those. john, why do we start with the the ft and donald trump getting a warm welcome in warsaw. rapturous, a getting a warm welcome in warsaw. ra pturous, a turnout, getting a warm welcome in warsaw. rapturous, a turnout, people bussed in from the countryside by the government because they knew they would give him a round of

in the 1980's, president reagan and margaret thatcher succeeded in shattering the shackles of communism. not just because they railed against the cruel and desolate creeds that lurked behind the iron curtain, but because they presented the vision of a better life. i remember a few years back being struck by a description of what was called a beautiful moment when news of reagan's evil empire speech reached siberia. the words he wrote, the brightest most recent day finally a spade had been called a spade, finally all worlds newspeak was dead. had come upagan from that moment, make it impossible for anyone in the west to continue closing their eyes to the real nature of the soviet union. enough just's not to speak out against the aggressive behavior of russia in ukraine or in syria. to merge our adversaries to act in accordance with international law. we must also give hope to people across the world of a better way of life. friend saidttis, my in germany last week, marking the 17th anniversary of the marshall plan, he said we stand for freedom and we will never surrender the freedom of o

last week i spoke at the margaret thatcher security conference in london. its team was whether or not we are witnessing the decline and fall of the west. whether our western values were up to overcoming these new and present dangers. i argued then that not only can we rise to this challenge but we must, and that we will. we're not being attacked by these adversaries because we failed, because our values are redundant, and on the contrary, we're being attacked because we won, because we succeeded in spreading these values and beliefs across the world. today we are recovering our confidence in them. but in an age of contested interests in confrontation, our adversaries seek to use cyber warfare and misinformation to re-write the western narrative, to extend their spears of influence, and try to limit the freedoms that we championed. we have to learn how to remake those original arguments. in so doing, that will make our societies far more resilient, far less susceptible to the suffersry of our vefailures. no two nations are more equipped to make the case for

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of the united states and must be treated as such. >> i think it was reagan and great friend margaret thatcher in with the idea peace through strength. let's see if we have the strength to result in the peace that we badly want and need. great having you. liz. >> well, coming up next we are going to tell you about the newest addition to our u.s. naval warship family and hero it's named after. boost. it's about moving forward, not back. it's looking up, not down. it's being in motion. in body, in spirit, in the now. boost® high protein it's intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for when you need a little extra. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. be up for it >> a music festival in barcelona spain and as you might imagine when stage went up in flames concert goers headed out for the exits, the website of tomorrowland festival says a technical malfunction caused the fire but firefighters say are still investigating on what sparked the blaze. thankfully nobody was hurt which as we know from pass fires specially when people evacuate

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bubbles it without solidarity your society disintegrates in essence and that's the point remember margaret thatcher there's no society which was an ideal not a description in fact the unwittingly she was paraphrasing marx who would condemn the french aristocracy if the press. because they were turning society into a sack of potatoes an amorphous mess and two in which individuals could not participate in function that's the new liberal ideal which is that your stated quite accurately let's talk about run the regulators and this is bad and the capture. of regulatory agencies by the very industries that are supposed to be regulated from regulatory capture goes way back to a very commonly the business world has actually instituted regulation of supported it to protect themselves from the highly destructive effects of an unregulated market which can be extremely destructive in the business world those norah been destroyed so they're kind of either tacitly supported or sometimes even initiated regulation on the assumption that they would be able to take it over and regulate it in their interests to a ver

say maybe the battle of all grief where police allegedly assaulted miners striking against margaret thatcher's government attempts to shut down britain's coal industries the possibility of a nuclear winter may have been averted this week as today strikes of a pensions atomic weapons establishment fight nor do mass that imperfect old have been suspended due to the government policy on offer arguably good news as these sites responsible for manufacturing nuclear warheads including teresa mayes two hundred five billion pound renewed have tried it but at least we don't have forward dancing with stars contestant and now united states for energy rick perry in charge of arnica are also because he was recently tricked by russian pranksters into thinking that he was talking to ukrainian prime minister about fuel made from pig manure now i want to see to produce a peach bennett to go through some of the week's counterpunches in social media be . wearing sort of a backyard brawl was predator at large pool joseph watson come straight out the gate swinging for the state mandated b.b.c. attempting to debug

and then came the political attack on the industry by margaret thatcher and by the economics that she. i told you what, never again must we go through a political attack on a community such as that against the mining community. never again must we a cce pt mining community. never again must we accept the economics that leads to that kind of decision will stop but when i talk about changing the political debate, i put it to you in this way, there was a global financial crash in 2008, nine, bought about by unregulated banks, greed, tax havens, by a sub—prime mortgage price that was so egregiously brutal towards many of the poorest people in the united states, and there was then imported here. imported here to a policy, a political choice of imposing austerity on the people of this country as was done in many other parts of europe. there was nothing ofan parts of europe. there was nothing of an economic necessity about that decision, there was no need to do it, you don't cut your way to prosperity, you invest your way to prosperity! and so, in this general election campaign, we call time

turn out ok this is what it's about exactly this policy that it's going to section twenty eight margaret thatcher brought in the same kind of similar law where you couldn't promote a homosexual lifestyle situ order it was in law until two thousand and three and people seem to forget only did few years ago we had exactly the same law which was a backward step to move forward. and say that we have actually pictures of the march against section twenty eight there. which is what was put in quick enough to react to draw cities in this will draw them as russian really i think first of all western is need to know what chechnya is it's like literally comparing the falcons to the whole it is so far removed it's got a different religion different traditions different leader and people seem to be so interested in gay rights and southern russia all of a sudden when isis last year were throwing gay people off roofs so we were interested in that. not that it. should be the points that i saw on facebook a lot of people have talked about the atrocities carried out against gay people in iraq for instance were you

they are holding onto the nurse for the finding anything worse, which is what they about margaret thatcheret an election to happen. in 2010 everybody said the coalition would fall and it would fall over the first summer and then they said by conference, by christmas, by easter. for years we were constantly told there would be an election. but it was a proper, full coalition. that is true, she has a majority, the dup will not turn against her. there is a lot you can do without legislating atoll and getting frozen and carrying on in government for as long as they can, nobody wants that poisoned chalice of eating the brexit negotiations. of course the conservatives are nervous about losing the tenuous control of power they have, but rememberjeremy corbyn lost a c0 nfe re nce vote with his backbenchers. they are not convinced they can robbed of victory quickly either. isn't the big danger for the voting public that the parliament is there, but it is not doing any legislating? —— can romp. we have already seen the conservative party bend a lot of its manifesto. the focus is on brexit, they are

i might add, this persisted until margaret thatcher. domestically, why was the socialistic instruction of roosevelt's new deal ever allowed to happen with his republican constituents in the hudson valley? and were there reverberations into the 1950's? i have to say, i might get to that in another book. it is a very good question. a quick way to answer it this is say that i was born and raised in central pennsylvania, republican territory. my father and my grandfather were lincoln republicans. a both voted for roosevelt. which you describe the relationship between churchill and joseph kennedy? you must buy my book. fdr and kennedy? joseph kennedy we probably know, was very ambitious politically. he planned on running for the presidency, but decided to wait for jack and joe. he was the leading democrat politician in massachusetts. he aspired to high office, specially secretary of the treasury. roosevelt was reluctant to appoint him. in 1938 after being head of the sec, he accepted employment and wanted it as ambassador to the court of st.

unexpected things in relation to the prime ministers you worked with, three of them, ted heath, margaret thatcherhere are bottles of champagne being broken over the bows of the ship with this relaunch. i think she is obviously in difficulty. she is in office but not i think in power. because the conservative party is quite nervous that any attempt to find a successor would divide the conservative party even more fundamentally than it is already divided. she is not a bad woman. i think she is quite limited and i think that she allowed herself at the early stages of these doomed brexit negotiations to line up behind the people who wanted a hard brexit or no deal being better than a bad deal and so on issues like the role of the european court of justice, on immigration, i think the government have got into a particularly difficult corner. i think it's going to be a struggle to get out of it without either loss of face or considerable bashing for the national interest. let's broaden this out and talk about one of the themes in your book, the idea of identity in politics. we all heard donald trump in

people remember labor came together with the likes of the pope and ronald reagan and margaret thatchero stand up against communism and turn the hinges of history in the right direction. so you have got a working class, hard-working, sober country there. it is a signal to russia but it is a signal to old europe there are hard-working europeans that agree with the agenda of this president and are concerned about having a stronger policy to balance trade and security equities there. melissa: what do you think about his mission of the g-20? what is the most important thing that he needs to focus on? >> to be frank, i think any g organization with number larger than one is destined to have diluted again today. most important thing are bilateral meetings. he has very important bilateral meetings. meeting with polish leadership before president putin is a good move. interest will be important discussions about continuing defense preparations of nato. really a chance, now that we're past somewhat introductory phase of the trump presidency to talk about counter strategy against isis and iran an

our discussion is daniel curtis, danielle is our policy analyst in european affairs and the margaret thatchercenter for freedom, he focuses on transatlantic security issues. his writings featured in real clear world, foxnews.com, breitbart .com and he's provided analysis in over 100 radio and television appearances. he has also served as a panelist at the transatlantic think tank conference in brussels belgium and provided parliamentary evidence to the uk house of lords select committee on the arctic. prior to joining us at the batter center he worked at a nonprofit in washington dc as a policy analyst as well as on the advisory board of a company as both a research associate and associate director. join me in welcoming daniel coaches. [applause] >> thank you john and good morning everybody on this beautiful wednesday in washington. we are honored to be joined by mark moyar whose book "oppose any foe: the rise of america's special operations forces" was described by national review as an invaluable and highly readable overview of special operations forces history, not just for those who are n

. >> trish: with me right now, ate it to margaret thatcher, is this a good step? did we have a good first meeting with vladimir putin? >> i think this is a very positive meeting, where he sends the right message. i understand that's on several occasions, president trump pressed the russian leader's about to russian interference in the u.s. election, that was the right message to send, and it was made categorically clear that it was completely unacceptable, this russian interference in the u.s. election, i think he has got the message loud and clear. >> trish: that is one of the first things that they talked about. >> it is very important to reiterate to the russians then that their attempt to interfere will simply not succeed, and i think that the reinsurance so that he will cease and desist these types of activities. >> trish: the big elephant in the room here is this north korea situation, and it sounds like we are on a very different page from the readouts that we got from rex tillerson then where the chinese end of the russians are on, so how does that start t

the comparisons to margaret thatcher aren't helpful. she's all right. taken on a combination of problems on a scale which no prime minister has done for generations and she's going to need to be very tough. but is it hard because she's negotiating with the e.u. or because she doesn't have the full support of her party? ken: the party is hopelessly split. it has no collective agreement on what it wishes to do as it leaves the european union. so she takes over a total confused situation where there is no roadmap and even her colleagues don't all agree with each other. it is a long, hard road before we have a negotiated strategy. francine: there was also the election. come overzy historical situation. the election didn't exactly go to plan. what does it mean for our premiership? how does she get the legitimacy back and what should be airplane? ken: she should send her colleagues away with their buckets and spain's and get them to calm down, then settle down and start producing a serious, grown-up, detailed strategy for negotiations. opinion, you will only

saying we want our money back, channeling margaret thatcher.greement for citizenship for european nationals yet. your assessment of where we are. would you expect anything more? simon: it would have been nice if the message had been more positive. is, the clock is ticking. didn't -- there didn't seem -- the fact that there seems to be substantive disagreements emerging -- in article drop on analysis. where we will be once more. you have to draw dots where we are now to get to that point. where is the market? set up doket mindset not like the pound at the moment? simon: over the course of the last 13 months, sterling has become an animal of politics. the proof of that is to go back to last august when the bank of england cut rates. influenced have sterling have all been about politics. sterling, weder look at what is happened in the past with u.k. politics. it has been a fascinating one. the argument that there was thetical uncertainty with pound doesn't fit quite with the story. they have a minority led which is about as strong as it could be.

kelly: for more on this let's bring in the director of margaret thatcher center for freedom at the heritage foundation. good of you join us today. hope you are doing well. john roberts just reported could this be a thaw in relation between russia and the united states more specifically putin and president trump? what say you? >> i don't think you are going to see warmer relations between washington and moscow as long as putin is the leader of russia. you are not going to see a constructive partnership between the united states and russia because the russian regime is fundamentally different interests than those of the united states, great britain and other u.s. allies. and as president trump pointed out, in his speech in warsaw on thursday, the russians have been hugely problematic on many fronts, including in ukraine, in syria, across the middle east, and so the russians frankly are an adversary of the united states. they are deeply unconstructive when it comes to international affairs. and i think that in warsaw, president trump sent the right message to moscow, which is that they need to

he met margaret thatcher. he's obviously met both clintons. he's met barack obama, so intense experience here. so this is a situation that putin will be incredibly comfortable in. whereas, trump will be perhaps somewhat out of his depth. now, let's compare mr. tillerson to sergey lavrov. mr. tillerson has very narrow experience, whereas mr. lavrov has been russian foreign minister since 2004, dealing and jousting diplomatically with pretty much all of the bright young things and the most experienced diplomats the west could throw at him in that period. so we've got the americans here, hopelessly outmatched. and that's something that putin is going to be very cognizant of. >> but perhaps the u.s. knew that going in. and maybe they wanted to try to take president putin by surprise in mentioning the russian meddling out of the gate. again, how do you think president putin interpreted that reference? >> this would only be speculation, but from what we are hearing from the meeting, it sounds like a perfunctory mention of it was made for domestic po

hopefully she can whisper in his ear the way margaret thatcher did to george w.et wobbly on us, you're the greatest democracy. >> what would you like to see happen for the week before i let you go. >> first, the trip was a break from the tweets and distractions. because they kept him busy and he was traveling. hopefully there will be a week of silence on that front. that's been overtaking a lot of important domestic issues. i'll be watching that putin meeting carefully for body language, for chemistry, stylistic and substantive issues that come out of that. >> there is that senate bill that passed that would tie the president's hands on sanctions with regard to russia. it will be interesting to see what the president does on this trip or when he gets back to make a case against that legislation being necessary. >> evelyn far kiss, thank you for being here. and we have a lot to talk about, about a lot of folks heading to the beach, just not this one with governor christie. he ordered the beaches closed because of the budget battle. what is he doing with his toes i

discussion today is daniel coaches, and danielle is our policy analyst and european affair and margaret thatcher center for freedom and focuses on transare atlantic security issue and writings featured in real clear world fox news.com and breitbart.com and provided expert analysis in over 100 regular and radio and television appearances. he's also served as a imaginist at the transatlantic in belgium and provided parliamentary evidence to the united kingdom house of lord select committee on the arctic. prior to joining us here at heritage and thatcher center he ed at a nonprofit in washington, d.c. as analyst as well as on advisory board company as beth a research associate and a associate director. please join me in welcoming danielle coaches. danielle. [applause] >> thank you john and good morning everybody on this beautiful here in washington. we're honored today to be joined by mark moyer who's book oppose any foe the rises of america special operations forces was described by national review as invaluable and highly readable overview of special operation forces history not just those for th

he met margaret thatcher. he's met three generations of western leaders. he's met jimmy carter.e's met both clintons, obama, of course and you compare this to trump. now, let's look at how mr. lavrov matches up against mr. tillerson. mr. tillerson has very, very narrow experience. he's been minister since 2004. hopelessly unmatched levels there. also, the operations. the kremlin team, for all its flaws, for all its corruption, is a team that's been working more or less successfully now for a considerable amount of time whereas the white house operation is, shall we say, clearly got teething problems, still. >> new to the game, i think we could say that. ben, every u.s. president or everyone in modern history has tried to reset relations with russia. we saw it with george w. bush trying to look into the eyes and soul of vladimir putin at the beginning of his administration to find he was brutish later on. obama tried to reset relations with med ef and was not able to do so. they had a frosty relationship. everybody wants to make sure two super nuclear powers can get along. do you

is it the smaller government that ronald reagan and of course, his counter point in england, margaret thatcherhelped to revitalize the west once before many think is needed right now? >> yeah, and look, i don't know necessarily know if every country is going to share the same idea of what freedom means within their own borders and i think that's why it's important for the president to also highlight the fact that, you know, look, we're all facing some pretty big and common threats, so, let's unite against them. 'cause at the least, we do share, you know, the same ideas, similar ideas about freedom, but you know, i do think it's important, this is something that president trump ran on during the general election as well. talking about american exceptionalism, make america great again, reagan's slogan. that's what americans wanted, they want today make america great again. i think a lot of people felt that, you know, we're headed in the wrong direction under president obama and that we're sort of apologizing for america's strength and for the things that make this country great and they wanted t

big speech for the prime minister tomorrow. >> one thing would help britain if cut taxes as margaret thatcherpopular, when are they going to get their act together does she realize they need to get their act together on that. >> yeah i think it is about time that really those aresa may starts campaigning again on theme of limited government cutting government spending, and cutting taxes. and we do need to see you know further cuts in uk cooperation we need to see a host of measures that will free market oriented i think one of the mistakes she made during her election, campaign didn't really campaign based on conservative free markets, principles she moved towards the center ground, that did not help conservatives at all, in the election, i think now time for the prime minister to advance economic policies and principles. >> what are what are what he are the odds of that if you had a program would bring back confidence enormously does she get it does chancellor of the exchequer get it? >> well those are very good question i think with theresa may not an ideological figure one of the biggest f

he was was rather sad that margaret thatcher was hostile to him.ter. why didn‘t she wanted him? because she was german —— because he was german. simple as that. his plan was that germany should be embedded in europe so that never again would you have a german europe. he would or would have germany as a democratic country, very much at the heart of europe with european values and that actually has happened. again, angela merkel was an eastern european, so she gained herfreedom merkel was an eastern european, so she gained her freedom when that wall came down and the country was united. she, like many people, oh him a lot and he was eventually taken down the rhine on a barge with the german flag on and a lot of people i do think the same thing. so, a good man. thank you, chancellor kohl. now, the sunday mirror, you might be forgiven for letting a performer have a drink before he goes on stage.|j letting a performer have a drink before he goes on stage. i love this. this is about paul mccartney. he is 75 and he is still touring but he now says he can‘

before even margaret thatcher mulooney,hev, brian the prime minister of canada, wantedeeting with him, to know about gorbachev. brian said, you know, i thought brezhnev in a $1000 suit. he could not have been more wrong. the canadian prime minister wasn't able to figure gorbachev out in the same way that ronald reagan was. don regan is now the chief of staff. i liked him to tell you the truth. but he was catastrophe as chief of staff. he said boys, the president wants you to light up on gorbachev. he does, you hell want us to. he shrugged. a day later we went to the oval said, mr. he president, i told them. they won't take it from me. i just think this fellow gorbachev is different from the others, reagan said, i think he's serious about getting out of afghanistan. this had not been in the washington post. i had not heard anyone speculate . the first time i heard it was from the lips of ronald reagan. a speech writers walked out and asked, what do you do when ronald reagan go soft on communism? [laughter] reagan and, mike mikell gorbachev had a speaking gig going, in the 90's. mike an

pope john paul, one of the great world leaders of history who stood alongside ronald reagan and margaret thatcher with a million poles in the public square. i've been to that square in poland where they were chanting "we want god" in this communist atheist country under the iron curtain oppressed by the soviet union. i got to tell you i'm certain putin and the russians did not like president trump powerfully telling the power of freedom and the desire of people to live free to overcome the oppression and tyranny of the soviet union and i would note of modern day russia as well. >> senator cruz, thanks for your time this morning. >>> when we come back, the roundtable weighs in on trump, russia and all the week's politics and after calling out president trump over his business ties, the government's top watchdog on ethics is calling it quits. did walter shaub resign in protest? he's joining us next. >> announcer: "this week with george stephanopoulos" brought to you by trivago. hey dad, come meet the new guy. the new guy? what new guy? i hired some help. he really knows his wine. this is the new gu