and marge schott, it turns out, loved hitler. seriously. that was part of the marge schott problem. i'm not speaking hyperbolically, i never do about hitler. in 1991 a front office employee at the reds sued marge schott for wrongful termination. he said he was fired because he opposed what he said was her policy of not hiring black people. when they started taking depositions in that lawsuit, that's when all heck broke loose. another reds employee said in his sworn deposition that marge schott referred to her own team's black players using the "n" word and then there was the thing about her nazi memorabilia. >> in a sworn statement released last week, schott acknowledged using the word [ bleep ], admitted he might be talked about money grubbing jews and keeping a swastika arm band in her home as a souvenir. eric davis was a star outfielder for cincinnati. so was dave parker. a former schott employee said schott once referred to them as her million dollar [ bleep ]. she denies saying this. >> i felt a need to come forward when i first heard her portray myself and eric davis was her m

marge schott denies saying this. she denies saying this. >> i felt a need to come forward when i first heard her portray myself and eric davis was her main [ bleep ] as if we should have been up on the podium spinning around stark naked and having people bid on us. >> a former employee of the oakland a's, sharon jones, said she once heard schott making racist remarks on a conference call with other team owners four years ago. >> marge schott, chief executive officer of the cincinnati reds, said that she would never hire, quote, another [ bleep ], unquote, and she would never have a -- she would rather have a, quote, trained monkey, end quote, working for her than a [ bleep ]. schott denies this too. >> i am not racist. never have been, never will be. i'm a minority too and i -- you know, i've been in the little old boys world long enough. >> black and jewish leaders have called for schott's suspension but it's up to the four-member committee to decide what action, if any, will be taken. >> cincinnati reds owner marge

will clippers owner donald sterling go the way of former cincinnati reds owner marge schott who was ousted from major league baseball after making racist remarks. >> famed attorney robert bennett is with us. he represented schott years ago. also represented president clinton during the monica lewinsky investigation. he'll speak with us excleesive when we come back on "closing bell." bell." with all the opinions about stocks out there, how do you know which ones to follow? the equity summary score consolidates the ratings of up to 10 independent research providers into a single score that's weighted based on how accurate they've been in the past. i'm howard spielberg of fidelity investments. the equity summary score is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. call or click to open your fidelity account today. e financial noise financial noise financial noise financial noise [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options. her valuable assets were staying. and selling her car wouldn't fl

if you look at marge schott and what happened to major league baseball. that happened almost two decades ago. we are in 2014 now. at least that needs to be done. and at least greet it with a suspensionenned n. this first offense and see where it depose from there absolutely. my heart goes out to the players that have to play for a guy like this. because they are in the worse of all right in the middle of the playoffs. >> you know, howard, let me go back to you. this isn't someone losing his temper and using a foul word and being disrespectful. this is actually really much different. telling someone not to bring certain people to the game. not to associate with certain people. this is not just a guy who he lost his temper and used a bad word. >> well, here is part of the problem, greta. the nba can't be absolved of this problem because they have created it. they are enabler. he -- however, this happened after that discrimination suit. that donald sterling had to settle on his rental property for millions. they all knew he was a reyes. the naacp wants to g

a and sarah to your point called donald sterling the marge schott of basketball. mark cuban, he came out yesterday and i think angered some people maybe. he said it's a slippery slope if the nba is able to strip the team from sterling, and his point was if the nba uses this, as we're taking the team from you, sue us, fine, donald sterling, by the way, no shrinking violet in a courtroom. cuban says that could be a concern. where does the power stop? kind of a different view, a little controversial, but that's what cuban does. >> just to remind everybody, we eight waiting the news conference from the nba. so far what we're hearing from nbc news, they are confirming he has suspended indefinitely, and fined $5 million. sarah, convince again you are there awaiting the conference. what more can you tell about what we can expect? >> we can expect to hear from adam silvers, the nba commissioner, grouped by the former nba commissioner, commissioner stern. he took the job on february 1st. boy, is this going to be his first test. i mentioned some of the pressure piling up fr

i think back to what happened to marge schott and her comments with the cincinnati reds about hitler and anti-semitic comments and she was suspended for a year. what do you anticipate this owners club is going to do to one of their own? >> i think if in fact these comments are his, there are actually two provisions. there are two provisions in the constitution. one that allows the commissioner to step in when there's not really a penalty for an unprecedented act to act. and another one governs an act of a nonplayer. you know, so i think that if in fact this is true, and because there's so much heat on adam silver, poor adam silver, i think that at the very least there's going to be a long suspension. probably a ban from probably day-to-day operations. but, you know, the question is how do you really hurt a billionaire? what do you -- >> particularly if you make him sell a team that he bought for about $17 million and is probably worth between $800 million and $1 billion now, which also says something about power and wealth and how those two might or might not be related. william rhod

marge schott finally gave in from pressure from the fellow owners, where sort of like this water tortureing h >> you think that will happen here? >> that's gonna happen. and i don't think there's any concern. he is gone. he may talk big and bad, but he is gone. >> terrence moore, good to have you with us on "the ed show," appreciate your time and your work so much. thank you, sir. >>> still ahead, rick scott gets schooled by seniors supporting obamacare, but he didn't think that is the way it was going to go. >>> and later, more on paul ryan's meeting with the congressional black caucus. congressman keith ellison will weigh in on that. next i'm taking your questions, on live on "the ed show" on msnbc. we will be right back. honestly, i'm pouring everything i have into this place. that's why i got a new windows 2 in 1. it has exactly what i need for half of what i thought i'd pay. and i don't need to be online for it to work. it runs office, so i can do schedules and budgets and even menu changes. but it's fun, too -- with touch, and tons of great apps for stuff like music, 'cause a good

in 1993, marge schott, then owner of the cincinnati reds was suspended for a year and fined $25,000 for making racial and ethnic slurs. but removal of sterling, the nba's longest tenured owner, may be far from a slam dunk. that phone call that started it all wouldn't normally be allowed in court under california law. but the nba may be able to use it in deciding punishment, if any, david. >> that's a real mess. it's not going away. ryan, thank you. >>> overseas tonight. ukraine. the battle is moving to the air waves. the takeover of a tv station there. ukrainian police stood helplessly by as pro-russian separatists, some in masks, moved in. they switched off ukrainian programming and switched it to a russian channel. with pro-kremlin views. >>> president obama, meanwhile, expected to stiffen sanctions against president putin. on this sunday, something else from the president. a rare and personal moment about his regret. all over his mother. abc's chief white house correspondent, jonathan karl, is traveling with the president in malaysia. >> reporter: on a trip to asia dominated by crisi

marge schott, the poster child for racism when it comes to owner, she started owning the cincinnati redswas there until the late 1990s. she had two prominent black players, dave parker and barry larker, when she referred to his black players as million dollar ns. they still won the 1990 world series. >> brian, you heard what mr. johnson said. he said they mean business. >> taking paul's comment one step further, he's right. this has been reported to the hr of the clippers. under california law, what hr has to do now is fire donald sterling. because if they don't fire donald sterling, all of these players are living in a hostile work environment within the l.a. clippers' organization. so you have two options to summit up, the nba needs to kick donald sterling out of the league. or number two, follow employment law in california, and they now have a legal obligation to remove him as the owner of the clippers. let's keep doc rivers in town, keep chris paul in town and let's not lose the clippers, please. >> david? >> sterling has to go, there's no question about it. there's no doubt in my m

marge schott and she agreed to sell her share of the cincinnati reds after being suspended for a thirdime. whether they can do it through n.b.a. or circumvent the law, they'll get donald sterling out, he's an improvement to the league and organization, and to americans as we look and say how is this exclusive job held by this person. but something that legend kareem wrote saying "we have known about this for a long time. there should be outcry - i agree - how did it take this lopping for somebody to -- long for somebody to record someone on tape, essentially in today's world where we have a gotcha game, they got him. we have known about donald sterling, where is the outcry on an every day basis. >> there are probably other donald stirlings that we have not heard about. if it comes down to any, virgin america, red bull, in the list they may continue to grow. may it come council to the fact that other businesses will say regardless of the morality, it's bad for business. i don't think it matters. adam silver, this will be his first tough job as the n.b.a. commissioner. i think a 6-year-o

there's no precedent as baseball did with marge schott over outside issues or something they said. that's something that will be explored over the next week or two weeks, to figure out whether or not adam silver does have that power. my sense is that they will find a way, even if they can't actually strip sterling of the franchise, to convince him that it's in his best interest and in the league's best interest to sell. i don't think that there's much chance you'll see donald sterling as an owner in the nba long term. >> let me ask you one quick follow up. sterling has an issue of making racially charged comments. he has been legally sanctioned for it so why hasn't the nba taken action sooner? why did it take this for all of this to come to light and for it to be a question about whether or not he should step down? >> that's the question that the players are asking. i think that's really the reason they are so outraged, not just at what sterling has said recently but the fact that he does have this long history of racial comments, attitudes and practices. the feeling is that the le

. >> from a civil rights point of view, i must say, i was involved at the forefront of marge schott that the swiftness of this and the unequivocal nature of him saying we're going to sell is a whole lot different than before. >> it's like the title of michelle alexanderalexander's b new jim crow in a color blind society. there still is racism on our society from top to bottom. but the greatest crime you can commit is being impolite with your racism. with expressing it. and that's what this is really about. i'll talk about housing till the cows come home, but this is about him being caught on audio tape being racist. that's what makes this so different than previous instances. >> i think that's true, paula. but i also any that the reaction is different. we did not see players, when i stepped, i did not feel weed a haul of that. that's always that was added to this, but again, you can't go to sleep on it. you must follow it every step of the way. we saw what the clippers did. 24er7 supported by the miami heat. it's very likely that you would have seen these kinds of protests, i think, spre

. >> precedent is there, besides marge schott. >> chev a -- she agreed to sell. she was a minority owner but she had no choice, and donald sterling, could there be a more unpopular man in america today. >> football, leonard toten, on the eagles. an habitual gambler. a guy neighborhoods fred cy owned the cardinals, no. tax evasion, sell. william cox owned the phillies, a gambler. if the rest of the league, the owners say you're out, you're out. i don't care. >> you go this world better than i do, gentlemen. i don't hear this cor russ -- chorus call overarm from fellow openers. so makes me think they're saying, there but by the grace of god go i. >> might not publicly say it but they'll -- >> you trash fellow broadcasters all the time. >> no. >> just the -- >> sportscasters. >> where does it go. >> i think donald sterling will nothing be owner of the l.a. clippers come the start of next season. he will be done. he will be done one way or another. >> a tape out there that can be confirm that -- why did he do it? why did he agree to it? >> i don't think he knew. the

same deal with marge schott of the reds, the nazi memorabilia collection and calling her star players her million dollar n-words. she had suspensions but they gently persuaded her to sell the team to somebody else. players get burned for life, right? they are thrown out, disgraced, barred from are the sport until they are dead. owners get quietly pressured to please cash in. before today the only time any owner in professional sports was banned for life was the joke about george steinbrenner. it was a joke. it was a life ban. he was back in less than three years. today that history apparently changed for the first time with a remarkable, terse and ultimately genuinely shocking press conference by the brand new commissioner of the national basketball association. >> i am personally distraught that the views expressed by mr. sterling came from within an institution that has historically taken such a leadership role in matters of race relations. and caused could you repeat and former players, coaches, fans and partners of the nba to question their association with the league. to them and

marge schott made awful comments, worse than these kind of comments a long time ago.in trouble for comments about tiger woods. sergio garcia not too long ago. anyone that thinks that sports is some kind of a haven against racism doesn't understand that sports is just part of society. it has pockets that are racist, just like the rest of society. but it's not new. this isn't like -- i don't agree that it's a new issue that is suddenly explosive. i think in the day and age of the internet and audio tapes, videotapes, cell phone cameras, where people can catch you saying things that you thought were a joke, private, or just were never going to get out, suddenly that's what has become the new tinder. but racism has long been an issue in sports. >> but sports can move the culture. you look at jackie robinson, sports can make a difference in culture. >> thanks very much to all three of you. >>> "outfront" next, the woman that you heard during the racist rant, who is she? donald sterling's former mistress "outfront." >>> and one company says it has found a plane in the india

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i remember when we had the marge schott case in cincinnati. and she said her stuff. and her lawyer, smart guy, i know him, bob bennett from washington said okay, you want to play this game, owners, every one of you owners i want to depose you, put you under oath, and ask you if you ever used words like this ever and you're going to be under oath for this. a smart lawyer would say okay, suppose this guy's lawyer, sterling's lawyer says fell lo eowners, i want depositions publicly taken. i want you to say you've never said anything about other groups. this gets pretty terrifyinging to some people, i would say. >> it really does. but for the 30 owners and the 400-plus players in our league, you know, we have a sanctity and a moral code that we try to live by protecting the sport. we try to have in sport a level playing field. sport is the place where you come in society and you say there's a level playing field. this is a place where black, white, you know -- >> it's merit based. the one area in which i think is totally merit based. >> you have to be careful here. >> th

i think back to what happened to marge schott and her comments about hitler and antisemitic comments. she was suspended for a year. what do you anticipate the owner's club will do one of their own. >> if in fact these comments are his, they're actually two provisions in the constitution. one that allows the commissioner to step in when there's not really a penalty for a unprecedented act, to act. others one governs an act of a nonplayer. so, i think that if in fact this is true, and because there's so much heat on average, on adam silver, at the very least there's going to be a long suspension, probably a ban for probably day-to-day operations, but the question is, how do you really hurt a billionaire? what do you -- >> particularly if you make him sell a team he bought for $17 million is and probably worth between 800 million and a bill dollars now, which says something about power and wealth and how they might or might no not be related. thank you very much. joining me now the vice-president of the naacp, ben-part of the story is the fact that is a guy who has this heinous record --

one thing, when i first saw it happened i looked at how major league baseball responded to the marge schottituation in baseball and they suspended h her in terms of the n-word and the anti-inflammatory words that she used about the jews and hitler and so forth. and what people are pushing for is that there is no place for him in the league, as lebron james, and michael jordan said. the only thing that the nba can do is to find a way for him not to be the controlling partner for the clippers next year. >> it is going to be how they maneuver through it. james, i want to bring you in, because the website deadspin released more alleged content of the purported conversation of donald sterling his -- and his girlfriend. >> do you know that you have a whole team that's black. >> you just -- do i know? i support them. and give them food, and clothes and cars. and houses. who gives it to them? does someone else give it to them? do i know that i have who makes the game? do i make the game? >> and now, there is an outrageous track record of speaking out? >> well, it is not surprising what he has done,

in days gone by, it took quite awhile for marge schott, the way news moves, how long will it take? how much will fans put up with this? >> i don't think the fans will. the idea that you have essentially said that all of the black people whoever show their faces and all of the minorities who show their faces are not welcome. >> that's the antethisis, coming to england and broaden its boundaries so that everyone feels involved. here you have a man at the core of a very important team within the nba giving the exact opposite message. it can't be stood for. >> what's going on behind the scenes? i have less than a minute. >> i would imagine you have got a bunch of people who are trying to focus on the voice in their head that's about playing basketball while all around them, there is an unending noise and it's an incredibly difficult situation to go on and manage in terms of playing and in terms of the league. this is the worst possible way for adam silver that you want to be introduced to your first crisis. >> sad story, john ameechi, good to have you on the program again. >> thank you

>> well i think that the time line is compared to a marge schott or others is faster. i think again where we go from here is our concern. but i think when you look at the fact that -- that it took a tape. this man had the -- the largest payout of a discrimination suit we have seen. when you look at the elgin baylor lawsuit. it should not have come to this. imagine if the tape had not gone public he would still be in charge of the publics. that's what adam silver has to deal with civil rights leadership and others about and going forward. and i think how firm he was to day gives us some level of confidence that he will engage in that serious discussion. where it will lead, we will see. >> absolutely. when you think about it. you mention the tape and what grew out of it. and what people wanted to hear. eugene. take a listen to something that doc rivers brought up here. a point that is some what profound, we talk race and how to deal with these infractions. take a listen. >> with the burden of racism, it always falls on the person who has been offended to respond. and i h

this is marge schott -- referred to by sports illustrated at one point as 'the red menace.' in 1993 - the cincinnati reds owner was suspended for one year and fined 25- thousand dollars after a series of racist and insensitive comments. in 1996 - she was suspended for life after proclaiming her support for adolf hitler. schott sold the team in 1999. then there was george steinbrenner. the new york yankees owner was suspended three times. first for illegally supporting richard nixon's presidential campaign in 1972. he was briefly suspended in 1983 after publicly criticizing umpires. and he too was banned for life in 1990 -- for hiring a gambler to follow dave winfield to try to find information to use against him in a lawsuit. steinbrenner was reinstated from his lifetime ban in 1993. and hitting closer to home. former 49er's owner eddie debartolo jr. was suspended for one year after his 1998 felony conviction for failing to report extortion. that legal battle led to another.and as part of the settlement, debartolo gave up control of the 49ers in 2000 - ceding control of the

. >> marge schott was suspended. winters.ke you're doing something and you're not? >> it's not going to go away with a suspension. plus, there's the notion that the nba sort of looked the other way with previous incidents. they're not going to honor him anymore. >> what do you fine him? he's worth 1.9 billion bucks. he's 80 years ago. thank you. i'll pay that tip. >> see how he made his money? personal injury attorney. enough said right there. >> i think i would defend -- >> morally have to look up how do i feel. >> i say within three years the company is sold. >> it takes this guy to defend the personal injury attorney. steve bomber. >> he's wanted to buy it. >> he's a motivator too. >> he could be running around the team. >> we have deals, deals, and more deals. g.e. is called to meet with the french president hollande. resid. true business-grade internet comes with secure wifi for your business. it also comes with public wifi for your customers. not so with internet from the phone company. i would email the phone company t

marge schott, it's worth taking a look at that. >> lamar, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. >r this occasion. but we'll keep it going. what do you think about this, the race controversy surrounding donald sterling with the #new day. >> deadly storms ripped through the part of the country overnight, tearing apart homes and towns. we're going to get an update from some of the victims from a hospital spokesman. >>> ahead, inside politics where sarah palin stirred up controversy at the nra convention. what she said about waterboarding, terrorism and christianity, coming up. with diabetes, it's tough to keep life balanced. i don't always have time to eat like i should. that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [male announcer] glucerna... wanted to go and see a lion up close. this zoom lens is amazing. go and smell the roses! >>> and welcome back to "new day." let's take a look at your headlines at half past the hour. at least 18 people have been killed after a deadly tornado outbreak tore through the central united st