this was all margie ross, the publisher. this was her baby and it was quite a surprise and quite a big surprise when she informed us all that she landed karen pentz. and it was great. we all, alyssa, myself and margie to the vice president's house and met with him and did a signing of the bunny on the contract and it was quite exciting. >> is that one of karen pence's illustrations on the front? >> yes, and this is one of those situations where it helps to be the art director on this because this is to illustrations. the original illustration is very much saturated and this was a totally separate illustration but we wanted to give a sense of place. where is this? this is the vice president house. i took the scan of her original house which is going to be inside and screened it back and put the subject, marlon the bunny in front. i really like that. it's a very good illustrator. verysurprising, good illustrator . >> and you put a newt gingrich or and and coulter or a sebastian orca photo on the front of a book, what are you s

do you make this was all margie ross the publisher. and then they she informed us that she landed karen pens. it was great. then to met with them and the signing on the contract. >> is that one of her illustrations on the front? >> this is a situation where it helps on these two illustrations original is very much saturated and the vice presidents house. so to take a scan of her original house into put the subject, the bunny, in front. a very surprisingly good illustrator. >> when you put newt gingrich or and coulter or sebastian photo what are you saying? >> that they are well-known or celebrities. we have a lot of facebook's. here is a very famous facebook michael, sebastian obviously, it isn't really facebook but it is about the lost shepherd and then with a high profile authors. >> the ten biggest of all war blunders. and the typeset is also relatively unique? >> but not unique to the. and that is what makes it appealing. and to turn the internet upside down to look for images and source material. and then to use that time. and wit

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