number of people today and we are going to start with devon the director of hope and trent war and margo antonite. and dufty, and director. and thank you for all of your hard work on this topic. and good morning, supervisors and thank you so much and like the chair, i am particularly excited about the hearing on the housing ladder because it reflects on what our big picture goals are that we want a system that is coordinated so there are different rungs on the ladder and we want the people to have movement and not feel like they are stuck and to become more independent or to have movement to get housing either that is sized or served more in tune with what their needs are last week we talked about the importance housing. our departments and non-profit housing agencies do a job with the vulnerable. and i can't say enough that the people will be here today, trent war, and barbara garcia who is represented today, and these are outstanding leaders and i think that the housing latter and because all of these individuals have the big portfolios that they are managing and when we look at how are we conn