and let's start with eggs which margon just talked about. how much higher could the prices go for the eggshell and eggs that become cookies to mayonnaise? >> year still trying to figure that out but it is not inconceivable to see another 50% increase in the shell -- or i'm sorry in the liquid eggs. the shell eggs we're still waiting to see but it is not unreasonable to think they could match that. so over all, maybe a double or triple in price compared to what we saw four to six weeks ago. >> and what about the price of the meat itself the chicken and the turkey population and there was talk of shortages into the holiday season and do you agree with that? >> it is certainly possible. we are trying to figure out, it is an interesting dynamic, we haven't seen them spread into the broilers because they are in the east and the south so we haven't seen a meat effect but the weird thing we are trying to figure out in the economics profession at the same time we're seeing animals slaughtered on the layer side we've seen countries put import bans on