maria avdeeva, _ ukrainian citizens. maria avdeeva, security - ukrainian citizens.ian citizens. maria i avdeeva, security expert in kyiv, thank you very much for joining us. let's speak to matt and nina, our panel tonight. matt, first of all, we cannot underestimate, can we, the second ledge of impact this is going to have on civilians when they think this could fall out of the sky? they think this could fallout of the sky?— of the sky? it's very unfortunate, - of the sky? it's very unfortunate, and i of the sky? it's very i unfortunate, and when of the sky? it's very - unfortunate, and when you of the sky? it's very _ unfortunate, and when you are attacking citizens in a war, in attacking citizens in a war, in a conflict like this, or any conflict, it is devastating what it essentially does, it puts a face and a narrative on war and that resonates with people around the world. certainly i know in this us election, it is resonating with americans who want to see and into this conflict, and the reality is, when you are attacking citizens, it'sjust a different story a

let's go live to ukraine and speak to maria avdeeva, a security expert in kharkiv.ing just how tough things are at the moment. can you shed any light or give us any thoughts on this line from president zelensky that he is seeing north korea are sending personnel troops to work inside ukraine alongside russian troops?— work inside ukraine alongside russian troops? your thoughts? usher is doing — russian troops? your thoughts? usher is doing everything - russian troops? your thoughts? usher is