and she was called maria menuhine callas. her last name was callas. she was singing jidla and rig let owe, i remember. i liked opera from the time i was seven. i had a wild nun who came with a phone graphic catholic school. i loved it. it was like ice cream. it was beautiful. people asked me how i get to love opera. i said you shouldn't get to love opera. it's like learning to love chocolate ice cream. i learned to love opera. >> charlie: this is all infused by that passion. >> yes. and the enormous emotion in the opera and influenced me as a playwright. my actors wear these characters on their sleeves. i feel what they feel. i write long monologues, duets, trios and war test. >> charlie: what about the performance of this character, the message is inherent in what he is saying that he is in fact callous, how he thinks about art. >> i'm interested in teachers, i had good teachers and callas claims she never had any good teachers. she denies how much she's learned. it's difficult because she is passing it on is interesting to me. terrence taught me how