let's discuss this with john avlon, governor mark sanford, and maria cardona.with you, governor. i want to talk about what is this? why is this happening? what is the point that abbott is trying to make? >> he's trying to make, again, another cardinal rule of politics is that all politics are local. tip o'neill's old saying. and it's true, and so, you know, 4,000 immigrants a day are coming across the border in texas. and to give new york a little taste of what they're experiencing down in texas, to send 100 folks, and we're talking, again, 100 versus 4,000 a day, i don't think is that big a deal. i think it's great politics. i think from a texas standpoint it's going to play very well for abbott. i think it can make it just a touch more real to folks who say we're a sanctuary city, but now maybe they're saying we're not so sanctuary because we don't want your immigrants from texas. >> i think what you're hearing from adams is we're overwhelmed. what are your thoughts on this? >> i think what abbott is doing is cruel. mayor adams is right about that. it is inhu

back with me now i get it williams and that high-end maria cardona. the issues culture wars. what is your impact? >> my thought, as a parent, and have two kids that are about to go into school. i think, goodness, that my kids are going to school in washington d.c.. and open progressive said he did actually likes the fact that we are a diverse culture. that knows that diversity is a must not just here in washington but in our country. it pains me to hear stories of teachers, and i've heard them personally, i have friends who are teachers. in florida and in texas. two of the states where this is happening front and center. where they say, i'm going to leave. going to leave at the end of this year. because they're not letting me teach real history. they are not letting me teach that diversity is actually a plus in our country. they are not letting me teach these kids, these diverse kids in my school, are living each and every single day. that is a shame and i think it is not just hurtful in this country, and to our kids, but i think it is dangerous. >> t

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let's discuss this with john avlon, mark sanford and maria cardona. want to talk with you about, what is this? why is this happening? what is the point that abbott is trying to make? >> he's trying to make, again, another cardinal rule of politics is that all politics are local. tip o'neill had that saying. it's true, 4000 immigrants a day are coming across the border of texas. and to give new york a little taste of what they have experience and in texas, it's 100 votes, again, we are talking 100, versus 4000 a day. i don't think it's a big deal. i think it's great politics. i think for texas standpoint, it will play very, very well for a bit. i think it could make it a touch more real for folks saying, we are a sanctuary city, but maybe we are not so sanctuary because you don't -- texas. >> i think what you are hearing from adams is that we are overwhelmed. what are your thoughts on this? >> i think what abbott is doing is cruel. mayor adams is right about that. it is inhumane. it is using migrants to be a political football to play these political g

joining us to discuss, the former utah congresswoman, and the the contractic strategist, maria cardonaans trying to distance themselves from trump on the campaign trail? >> if republicans are going to win, jake, they cannot continue to hold the water for donald trump. they can't continue to just try and defend donald trump. because they missed the boat. they missed talking about doing work for the american people. they missed talking about how they're actually going to reduce inflation. how they're actually going to help americans when it comes to making their life better. tomorrow than it is today. i can't tell you enough how i have been begging republicans to start talking about what they are for. what they're going tad. how they're going to move policy forward. if they continue to defend donald trump, they're not really working for people, are they? they're working for donald. >> and maria, we see the opposite going on. we see democrats distancing themselves from president biden in many respect, not answering questions about whether or not they'll campaign with him. and just more ov

. >> so let's discuss now, cnn political commentator scott jennings, maria cardona, both join me.ing to both. >> hey don! >> you guys should be in new york, but i'll give you a pass. we're gonna work on that. >> love to, next time. >> so, scott, that wasn't all the president said in the fund-raiser earlier. he said, quote, what we are seeing now is the beginning of a extreme maga philosophy. it is not just trump, it's the entire philosophy that underpins. and i'm going to say something that's semi fascism -- he's calling off the extremes in your party, which has become a lot of the party, is that fair game or too far? >> well, look, i expect joe biden to attack donald, trump and what i hear in the comment is essentially attacking anyone who votes republican is a fascist and arguing that if you don't vote democrat, you're a fascist. and i find that rhetoric to be incredibly -- >> scott, hold on, hold on. he's up for those of you who love the country, and he said republicans. >> that's right, mainstream. >> he made the distinction between republicans and extreme republicans. i can p

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let's bring in maria cardona into the conversation.away from the election denial when that really was what sealed the endorsement from president trump for his nomination? >> yeah, you can't. i mean, because, you know, it's the year of our lord 2022, everything you say is video taped and recorded and archived on the internet. what you can control is what you choose to focus on. this happens all the time in both parties. people focus on certain issues in primaries and change their focus for general elections, pivoting, if you will. and that's what i would encourage any of the general election candidates to do. running a general election focused on trump and the 2020 election is running it on inflation and quality of life, crime, cost of living. those are good ideas. you can't really get away from what you did, but you can focus on the issues that matter more to general election voters. >> is that going to work? >> this is why it won't work. there was a poll that showed that threats to our democracy was the number one issue for americans.

cardona said right, right, you don't get anything if you paid your own way, if you abide by the contract that you signed. again its moral hazard as its worst. maria: i'm so glad you mentioned that quote i saw that interview and i was so taken aback i was happy that peter doocy asked the question there is one more thing that we haven't touched on that is tuition prices yesterday senator tom cotton tweeted out it gives the go-ahead for colleges to raise their tuition by $10000 and then they say this will undoubtedly send tuition prices higher already as skyhigh prices, there's that. here is the deal if you are running a business in america and you overcharge someone you give them a refund. obviously we know if the american taxpayer that is going to foot this bill it is not going to be coming out of harvard's 50 billion-dollar endowment fund to reimburse people they overcharge that is an issue to the whole deal to your point student loans and increasing tuition we don't have a student loan crisis in america we have a tuition crisis in the decision-making crisis. tuitions have been hiked egregiously over the last 20 or 30 years due to the massive ava