understand the difference between adoption and guardianship, and indeed, from the documents we saw, maria lvova-bilova established guardianship over philip holovnaya, a boy deported from mariupol, in april of this year. namely, on april 4, philip will turn 18 years old, so unfortunately, we predict... that, knowing lvova bilova, she will want to have another child, perhaps, in order to fuel this propaganda and encourage more and more russians, take to families of ukrainian children, because unlike what russia broadcasts on the global stage, that it is like the process of handing over for guardianship, and not for adoption, as they say, ukrainian children after the start of the full-scale invasion lasted only until october 2022, this is all a delusion and not true, we documented cases when the russians... transferred ukrainian children to their families and in december 2023, the process is ongoing, what we know about these families, they are mostly really so -called resource families, that is , russian children are also under their care from russian orphanages, often these are children who have disabil

warrant was issued, they lingered there, lingered, then began to come out with a statement, maria lvova bilovahese are her words that president putin gave an order to facilitate the reunification of families, they do not speak, they do not use the word return anywhere, because if they say return, then it turns out that they were relocated, it turns out that kidnapped, it turns out that they were deported, they say: connection, as if so neutralizing, something like that, they chose one of the words, and in fact they somewhat manipulate this word reunification, because you can reunite biological families, but as for orphan children, especially if they have lost their legal guardian, it will be much more difficult here, and they understand it and do not want to return such children, but less so, if i sum up this whole long excursion, i will not abuse it, the situation has changed. from dead center, and now we we are already talking about some international initiatives, we are accumulating the support of the international community, and we are planning, not just dreaming, we are planning to return

for vladimir putin, president of the russian federation and maria lvova bilova, authorized by the presidenton children's rights. on suspicion of committing war crimes related to the deportation of children from the occupied territories of ukraine to the russian federation. the international criminal court qualified the actions of putin and lviv and bilova as a war crime, but not as a crime of genocide. why? presumably, because international courts and tribunals still traditionally tend to consider genocide through the prism of the physical destruction of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group. children are not exterminated. theory is that children who are moved from one group to another. lose the identity of the first group and take on the identity of the group to which they are moved, so it does not meet the requirement in a sense that the intention was to physically destroy the group, the courts have not yet made an exception for this, cases of forced displacement have never really been dealt with internationally court, but should we rely only... on judicial practice, if the defini

and the russian commissioner for human rights under the president of the russian federation, maria lvova bilova. they are suspected of neza. nome forced relocation of ukrainian children from the occupied territories of ukraine to russia. natalka gumenyuk, co-founder of the recognizing project and journalist, joins our broadcast. natalka, welcome to our broadcast. thank you for... joining in, tell me, this is the first case about russian war crimes in ukraine, filed outside of europe and the usa, why argentina, well, we understand, because the legislation allows, what are the expectations and are there actually great chances for so that this case went to be considered there, and we filed the case in crimes of war crimes and crimes against humanity in the case of torture, and here not only is the argentinian legislation, and such a capacity, but the tradition of argentina is to investigate... and conduct trials in crimes against torture, and therefore a case was chosen that resonates and in argentinian society, in argentinian law, we deliberately did not choose some extremely large case with a la