looks like there is no discussion needed i'd like to point out because maria newport has over a thirty year career she's announced they are retirement effective this year and try to get her here to make a final report to the boards on the strategic plan but i wanted to make sure i can acknowledge her and bring accumulation back to the board which she's retired. >> thank you for that accomplishment so this is a discussion item mr. clerk, call item 18. >> 18 discussion item the retirement board member good of the order. >> i'd like to request if staff is willing to do in spite of something like this would staff be willing to send a letter to the peers on deferred coming maybe pick the 25 that are sized or around our size and ask them if their recently memory and history on the insurance policy components of their operation if they have a claim and kashdz in on the claim maybe a million dollars and above the shufz don't talk about the option i thought that type of action and direction will be helpful to the committee to know if anybody has cashed in on an insurance policy. >> just for poi